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So I guess it’s fair to say the slogan “what happens in an iPhone stays in an iPhone” people took at face value also. /s

I for one sure didn’t think it was okay to share the password out of the house. My family all had Netflix profiles while they were in the house and have since moved out.

If you took it to mean share the password freely, that’s on you. And cancelling ain’t going to do a darn thing - especially if you don’t like the content.
It is also because of the unfair pricing structure along with what Netflix is doing. If I am a single person why can I not just pay a little higher standard fee for say 4K, why do I have to go all in and get the top tier plan with 4 or whatever simulations streams just for something like 4K. Creating a better price structure would probably be a better solution for Netflix as people with kids and whatnot need the more screens and single people or even couples just may need the 1 stream but the quality.
 
I’m surprised streaming services ever release blu rays of anything. I’ve come to realize it’s often times cheaper to buy a show or movie on blu ray than sign up for a streaming service that I wind up keeping for 6 months because I don’t want to take the time to binge.
And when Netflix goes away at some point 30 years or so. We lose that show. While I still watch shows from the 80s. Streaming is not a good thing in some areas. There are a few shows I have seen that have Zero physical release. Those will be forever lost in a couple decades.
 
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This is common sense to me. I can't use someone else's gym membership, I can't use someone else's insurance, someone else's employee discount, someone else's music streaming service... why do people think if they know someone who pays for a service that for them it should be free? Netflix isn't the bad guy for having people pay for their service, people just got away with breaking the rules for so long that they feel entitled to it now. I know y'all hate it, and I can understand disappointment, but not outrage. Asking people to pay for a subscription makes 1000% sense, especially if you want a lot of content. I'd be ashamed of myself if I'd been fraudulently getting a service for free for years and now going online to complain about how I should still be able to get it for free.
Except the comparison starts to falter when you realize that Netflix allows you to create multiple profiles and pay more for multiple streams- 2 things that are literally meant for sharing the subscription.

We’ve been paying extra for 4 streams, and now we’re being told we can’t use them because we’re in different households. It’s Netflix’s right to enforce that, but it’s also my right to scoff at that decision and cease doing business with them.
 
If you don't think the next step in all of this is 1 year contracts you're not paying attention.

Coming soon pay monthly 1 year contract with a $150 early termination fee.

This is the most obvious thing yet no one seems to see it. The more people that advertise and encourage the subscribe and drop model the faster the next phase will roll out.

Perhaps and at that time people will need to determine if they want the service for the advertised price and duration, simple as that.

No matter what some people feel, you are not entitled to content, if you feel it is of value to you at the advertised price and terms then subscribe. If you don't, then don't subscribe, but one shouldn't justify theft because they don't find value.
 
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So much vitriol defending Netflix.
Why not. I defend Netflix right to run their business the way they want and for customers to decide if the service is worth it. How else should it work?
You sound like paid advertising/marketing for Netflix 😂
Lol. As opposed to a paid critic?
Netflix needs to find some other way to stay in the black on their books, than constantly pissing off their customers.
The customers that are pissed off will leave.
There’s too many other alternative entertainment options out there for entertainment. Netflix acts like they’re still the only option for streaming.
So let the customers go to those alternatives. Competition is good so MR posters keep telling us.
 
I'm very surprised people are actually on here defending Netflix! What's next? Will folks be on here defending pay subscription fees for access to features built into cars? That is right around the corner thanks to BMW!
Well, according to the Netflix shills, even though you pay BMW to have Wi-Fi in your car, that Wi-Fi is for you only and you should charge everyone else who uses it that might borrow your car and then send that money back to BMW. Because even though you've paid for the Wi-Fi, letting others use it is "stealing". 🙄
 
Everyone in the comments under posts like this: "Boo! Netflix bad! I never liked them anyway so I canceled my subscription and so did ten other people I know! This is a stupid business decision!"

Netflix when it comes time to report subscriber numbers: "We increased our subscriber counts in the most recent quarter, account cancellations were no more a factor than they have been for years, and there hasn't really been a notable impact from the anti-password sharing efforts we've undertaken."
 
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A fair question, but as far as I know, people who have the same legal address as the account owner are covered as being part of the "household". I imagine travelers might have to endure the occasional "verification" checks.
Perhaps once a year login from the location of the account holder? 🤷‍♂️

Hope it’s not that because that would be terribly obnoxious.

Maybe force location services…

Who knows. It’s all a big inconvenience. Services should be made EASIER to use not harder.

Oh well. Guess we’ll find out soon enough what the experience is like
 
I'm very surprised people are actually on here defending Netflix! What's next? Will folks be on here defending pay subscription fees for access to features built into cars? That is right around the corner thanks to BMW!
It's strange to you that people defend a company wanting to make money. Really? Is Netflix the best, no, far from it and likely the one I watch the least (Disney+/Hulu being the most) but what there doing is reasonable.
 
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Why not. I defend Netflix right to run their business the way they want and for customers to decide if the service is worth it. How else should it work?

Lol. As opposed to a paid critic?

The customers that are pissed off will leave.

So let the customers go to those alternatives. Competition is good so MR posters keep telling us.
Good response 😆 made me chuckle.

Yes, competition is good. Maybe it will convince Netflix to CHILL and back off on the password sharing crackdown nonsense.
 
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This is common sense to me. I can't use someone else's gym membership, I can't use someone else's insurance, someone else's employee discount, someone else's music streaming service... why do people think if they know someone who pays for a service that for them it should be free? Netflix isn't the bad guy for having people pay for their service, people just got away with breaking the rules for so long that they feel entitled to it now. I know y'all hate it, and I can understand disappointment, but not outrage. Asking people to pay for a subscription makes 1000% sense, especially if you want a lot of content. I'd be ashamed of myself if I'd been fraudulently getting a service for free for years and now going online to complain about how I should still be able to get it for free.
My gym membership gives access for my wife and if I had kids would give them access to any location too, my wife's car insurance covers other drivers on the car and myself and her driving other cars, and Apple lets me share my music streaming
 
Perhaps and at that time people will need to determine if they want the service for the advertised price and duration, simple as that.

No matter what some people feel, you are not entitled to content, if you feel it is of value to you at the advertised price and terms then subscribe. If you don't, then don't subscribe, but one shouldn't justify theft because they don't find value.
But it is not theft. Theft is a crime so if it was illegal/theft then we would be getting emails/letters from the ISP just like Piracy.
 
I'm very surprised people are actually on here defending Netflix! What's next? Will folks be on here defending pay subscription fees for access to features built into cars? That is right around the corner thanks to BMW!
I don't find those two different situations to be equivalent, but maybe I haven't thought it all the way through.

NO, I would not subscribe to a subscription to have my heated seats in a BMW turned on. I would hate "nickel and dime" charges . I can imagine things like "basic dashboard gages" are free, but $4.99 a month for tachometer and dials... That would be awful. I would not buy into such a system.

On the flip side: I actually don't have a warm spot for Netflix. I do enjoy some of the alternative/foreign/informational stuff they have done, but I really don't like their political affiliations. I would cancel our subscription, but my better half wants to keep Netflix and drop something else.
 
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Here comes the entitled folks who feel like they should be allowed to share their account with everyone they know.
Nice try. Netflix encouraged password sharing in writing and in the intervening years, have done nothing to change those terms. Now they are making a financial decision to reverse their position and customers have the choice to pay more to share, dump the person with whom they’re sharing, or cancel their account. I don’t watch Netflix enough to justify paying more just so my sister can watch it (the ONE person with whom I was sharing), so I am going to cancel my account.

Plain and simple. No entitlement; customers can choose where they want to spend their money.
 
Sure but why would it matter if it’s actually family vs strangers as long as they are all living apart? It’s not like NF will save on bandwidth in either case.
It.. makes them more money? That's what the OP is about. I don't understand your question.
 
My gym membership gives access for my wife and if I had kids would give them access to any location too, my wife's car insurance covers other drivers on the car and myself and her driving other cars, and Apple lets me share my music streaming

So what? That is all part of their individual "terms of use or service", Netflix has chosen a different path. By using a service you agree to their terms... if you no longer like their terms, unsubscribe.

But it is not theft. Theft is a crime so if it was illegal/theft then we would be getting emails/letters from the ISP just like Piracy.

Play word games all you want but if you are consuming their product and not paying for it that is theft.

Perhaps you are correct by the letter of the law but most reasonable people would agree that if you consume content you haven't paid for you have stolen it. Why is this so hard? You are not entitled to content on your terms or your price point.
 
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Will cancel as soon as it happens. I share with my elderly mom who perhaps watches one show a week. As soon as that becomes a problem, I have no remaining reason to keep it. I'm already on the ad supported tier and have been struggling to find reasons to watch - especially as they limit what content is available on the ads tier.

So they will go from one paying customer to zero, not one to two. Ah well, will save a few bucks. 'twas a good run for a while. Plenty of other streaming services are around and there is simply too much content to consume.
My elderly mom shares my account and lives another town. She watches several series on there. I’ll add her as a user or pay less than it would cost to buy her lunch each month to add her.

I mean I could teach Netflix a lesson, but I love my mom.
 
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My elderly mom shares my account and lives another town. She watches several series on there. I’ll add her as a user or pay less than it would cost to buy her lunch each month to add her.

I mean I could teach Netflix a lesson, but I love my mom.
Sounds like your mom watches more than mine. Go for it!
 
With all the streaming services going up in price (which is effectively what this is), the solution is easy: subscribe to one service at a time.

If you sign up for all of them, the price is stupid and you mostly don't use most of them. Instead, sign up for one, use it till you've watched everything you want to watch, cancel and move on to the next, rinse cycle repeat.

What the services are all really doing, by increasing prices, is just ending the era where people stay signed up for everything.

With the above strategy, you max out at $20/month. Very price reasonable and entirely legal.
 
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So what? That is all part of their individual "terms of use or service", Netflix has chosen a different path. By using a service you agree to their terms... if you no longer like their terms, unsubscribe.



Play word games all you want but if you are consuming their product and not paying for it that is theft.

Perhaps you are correct by the letter of the law but most reasonable people would agree that if you consume content you haven't paid for you have stolen it. Why is this so hard? You are not entitled to content on your terms or your price point.
So if I buy or even say rent a carpet cleaner because I have a lot of carpet in my house and a friend asks to borrow it for a spill would it be illegal for me to let them use it? I throw in the rent because well that is closer to the subscription model. What about if I rent a Uhaul for moving my stuff and I let a friend use it to quickly move something either way I the renter takes responsibility. The problem with Netflix is there was nothing defined and they let it go on for years and years until they had a diminishing customer base and then suddenly there is a problem.

Not doing word play either just flat out not agreeing with labeling people as thieves when no theft actually happened whether by legal definition or not. Maybe by your standards you view it as theft, but do not label people as theives because of your opinion. If Netflix flat out stated over the years and years they have been around that the multiple screens were meant for single home use only then sure maybe ill be on your side with that, but nope they didn't they used the multiple screens and password sharing as free advertising so they can boast high stream numbers until it user numbers went down which is really because of poor content especially compared to years ago originals
 
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So we can assume you think paying for 4 people as a person living by yourself is perfectly okay?

They are both wrong. That's why I quit Netflix after years of membership. No skin in the game anymore.
This is the real answer. Don't force people who only need one stream pay for four because they want 4K and not let them use the other three. Just have a base plan lower tham $20 with one stream and 4k and then pay for each extra stream.
 
Damnit Canada! First you let Rogers and Bell give you the thumbscrews and now this? Why?
Yeah, as I understand it there was an initial cancel reaction where their numbers dropped, but ultimately people came back and signed up for their own accounts. They wouldn't have rolled this out in the US if it had hurt their bottom line in Canada. I just hate their plan tiers. I want 4K but don't need 4 streams.
 
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