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Netflix Cracking Down on Password Sharing in Four More Countries, Including Canada
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His mom carried his ass in her womb for 9 months, i think sharing a netflix account is the least he can do for her!
Not convinced that anything like this would be workable. Some ISP operate huge ranges of IP pools. Netflix are not going to be able to reliably infer what is "allowed" multiple use and what is "not allowed" purely by IP alone.
That's another thing that is very important, password sharing meant cancelations would be far less likely. I liked to switch between streaming services, but before moving on I'd ask the people that I was sharing my password with if they are currently watching something, so I know not to cancel. That goes away now.
A few days ago I opened Netflix just to see the current library, even though I am no longer subscribed. I was curious if there was something new that I would be really interested in watching. Nothing, the content is subpar and not worth the extra charge.
I can't see how this ends up being a net gain for Netflix. Maybe in the short-term they can somehow achieve a net gain in subscription earnings, though I doubt it. But in the long-term, this can't be a win for them because of fewer eyeballs. They will lose viewers and in the long run it can't be good. The most important aspect is content, and Netflix is lacking quality in that department, so then you work on lowering subscription fees in order to compensate for that and get more people to watch, while also working on making quality content instead of whatever it is they are doing now.
It's interesting because Netflix is a large company and you'd expect that they did their research on this, but I can't possibly see this improving their situation. They did this to themselves and now they want out of this predicament without actually putting in real work to make great content that we would pay for.
Actually in some countries, especially in Europe, password sharing is considered a crime if the person being given the password is not entitled to that password because that person would be receiving a paid service for free which is considered theft.
This from the UK
Sharing your Netflix account is officially now a criminal offence
Password sharing for streaming accounts may amount to 'secondary copyright infringement'.
metro.co.uk
Netflix Password Sharing Is Illegal, UK Government Agency Says
A British government agency says Netflix password sharing is similar to copyright infringement, though legal action against account sharers is unlikely.
Netflix password sharing may be illegal, says UK government
The Intellectual Property Office said the practice might break criminal and civil law.
www.bbc.co.uk
The US is not the center of the Universe so all those saying sharing netflix password is not a crime needs to look outside of their own bubble and see what is going on in the rest of the world because in some countries, especially the UK it is considered illegal and thus against the law, thus a crime.
I'm so glad that I cancelled. Last day is this month.
I went to finish out my Watch List and realized I didn't really want to watch any of the crap that was on it. Netflix sucks and puts out poor quality stuff these days for the most part.
Bye-bye, Netflix!
I went to finish out my Watch List and realized I didn't really want to watch any of the crap that was on it. Netflix sucks and puts out poor quality stuff these days for the most part.
Bye-bye, Netflix!
But isn't that the argument Netflix is making? they cannot provide the good content programs viewers want because they are too expensive and thus because Netflix is not getting the revenue it should do due to all the password sharing going on it cannot afford to purchase the good quality content and puts out lower quality content instead.
Because Netflix believes it will make them more money. It's that simple. Businesses choose the business model that's most profitable if they can choose.
The family plan is mainly meant to cover parents and children living in the same household. Only the parents usually have income so making a business modell where a family with 2 parents and 2-3 children each had to pay for their own account would be completely unacceptable to most customers.
Charging money from adults living in different households, even if they're related, is more acceptable to more customers or so Netflix believes.
No, it's available to the members of the household independent of their location when viewing. The only restrictions might be if you're temporarily in a different country an Netflix doesn't have the rights to show the content there.
I wonder if that is the flaw in Netflix's original T&C's because if they allowed 'members of the household independent of their location when viewing' and a family member goes to uni and hands out the family password to whoever, suddenly Netflix servers start showing a 'families' account as having 20-30 or even more 'family members' because the IP numbers showing up with the password are all different.
I bet the company network admins have been having a field day looking at the login requests to their servers and seeing 'family' accounts that have 4 devices set to their account start seeing the password show up multiple times in different US states and also in different countries and the network admins looking at each other going 'how many people are in this household? 300?' lol.
In Portugal the backlash is huge, a lot of people are quitting, lets see what next quarter numbers will bring.
What a stupid move!
What a stupid move!
No, it wasn't.
Netflix net income 2024| Statista
Netflix's net profit amounted to 5.4 billion USD in 2023. This was an increase of around 1 billion USD from 2022.www.statista.com
Netflix Gross Profit 2010-2023 | NFLX
Netflix annual/quarterly gross profit history and growth rate from 2010 to 2023. Gross profit can be defined as the profit a company makes after deducting the variable costs directly associated with making and selling its products or providing its services. <ul...www.macrotrends.net
Is Netflix Profitable? Netflix Profitability 2014-2023 - FourWeekMBA
Netflix is a profitable company, which almost $4.5 billion in net profits in 2022, slowing down compared to over $5 billion in earnings for 2021.fourweekmba.com
Yes it was - those numbers are excluding it's borrowing. It was significantly cash flow negative every year until 2021.
All of their rivals are losing very significant amounts of money and will be doing the same thing. The status quo is not an option for any major streaming service, other than perhaps AppleTV+ as it's a vanity project that isn't supposed to make money.
I periodically go to JustWatch<dot>com to see what is 'new' on NetFlix. It seems the only new content showing up are foreign titles that require subtitling (for me) that have zero interest for me. Since NetFlix is international now, their content has exploded to be inclusive of more than just English-speaking countries. This is why I can't justify staying; the content is not interesting to "me". We just renew for 1 month, binge what we like, and cancel for the next 6-12 months.
The 4K plan is a clear money grab. Your mother in law isn’t considered household so she will need to enroll into the SD plan with ads which is $6.99.
Here’s a link https://about.netflix.com/en/news/announcing-basic-with-ads-us
pretty sure pumping out a metric s—tton of horrendous originals over the last 10+ years is what has caused them to lose their “ability to invest in great new TV and films,” but, your move, Netflix.
the mass exodus on this service will be leaps and bounds greater than Twitter since it’s not a (free) necessity the way that Twitter (unfortunately) is for some. it’s a luxury. the advent of streaming came from paying a relatively small amount to avoid torrenting. Netflix has taken that model and ran it into the f—king ground. who’s next, Spotify?
(read: probably not, because Spotify actually likes user retention, and music streaming already scams the hell out of musicians in favor of the services themselves/the Big Three record labels.)
this is already buried under nearly 300 comments but, just putting my two cents in (rather than the $20 I would be paying for a service just to get 4K when I don’t even watch anything from it on a monthly basis & would have to login every month as an irritating “safeguard”).
the mass exodus on this service will be leaps and bounds greater than Twitter since it’s not a (free) necessity the way that Twitter (unfortunately) is for some. it’s a luxury. the advent of streaming came from paying a relatively small amount to avoid torrenting. Netflix has taken that model and ran it into the f—king ground. who’s next, Spotify?
(read: probably not, because Spotify actually likes user retention, and music streaming already scams the hell out of musicians in favor of the services themselves/the Big Three record labels.)
this is already buried under nearly 300 comments but, just putting my two cents in (rather than the $20 I would be paying for a service just to get 4K when I don’t even watch anything from it on a monthly basis & would have to login every month as an irritating “safeguard”).
Thanks for agreement Michael. I have been trying to remember that term for when you cancel things regularly to try another service. Ah... it was "Churn" or "Churning" I suppose, and I found it in this article: https://www.tomsguide.com/opinion/i-would-cancel-netflix-and-hbo-max-in-september-heres-why When I read this I realized how trapped I was because of the fact that I was sharing services. Trapped to stick with Netflix which I really don't like that much these days. (With Spotify too actually). I spent last night calculating how I could better spend my money (Trying Apple One for a bit as an example). I also approached grandparents and when they realized they would have to pay 16.99 plus tax Canadian for two streams in their house they said forget it, we have Prime and Crave and their good old TV which they overpay for anyway. Time to Churn! (And maybe never go back to Netflix!)
Is it okay for Netflix to charge extra to watch on 4 screens at a time (and to get 4K) but restrict who can do so?
I pay for a 4 screen plan, shouldn’t that be my limit (the number watching at the same time, not where they are located)
So you can no longer watch Netflix on the train to work, or at a friend’s house? Because you definitely won’t have the same WAN IP in those scenarios. Anyway I’ll just cancel.
Feels like Netflix needs to do its part and make the service worth the asking price. For me, Netflix was only worth it if it was cheap enough and I could share with my old parents. I was considering downgrading to the ad supported tier, but now I won't bother. The ad tier further limits the library, anyway.
They want another subscriber out of my retired parents. But they will lose us both.
Netflix's ego is writing checks their content catalog can't cash.
Exactly. How can they not understand this! No major one other than NF charges for res. Little ones like Frndly do
True but this an Apple Forum. I would never believe anyone was any sort of professional they claim. Has to be a forum where they verify credential and give you some flair on your posts
What they also need to do is separate streams and res. They should start with ad tier, and add a little for no ads and how many streams and how much quality. So you could have a lower price for no ada/1 stream/4k
It'a not against the ToS to use Netflix while you're traveling or staying at some kind of vacation home.
The limitation is towards people, not locations.