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Netflix Cracking Down on Password Sharing in Four More Countries, Including Canada
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If my T-Mobile plan didn’t pay the majority of my Netflix bill, I’d have canceled long ago.
This is going to be great.
They will get -25$ from me as I cancel my account. I pay for four screens and now wont be able to use them, so why would I pay for it.
They will get -25$ from me as I cancel my account. I pay for four screens and now wont be able to use them, so why would I pay for it.
Tell us the legislation that shows that its a crime.
I just can't wrap my head around the logistics of this. For what it's going to cost them to properly monitor/police this and deal with all the legit exceptions they're going to have to make the cost in manpower can't possibly be worth it vs. just restructuring tiers based on simul. streams, can it? I guess the beancounters must have a formula that says so, shrug
You got downvoted coz it’s a dumb comment. I travel a lot, and hotels allow logging in to Netflix account. I know folks who have weekend cottages/home using Netflix. There are many more legit use cases I haven’t listed. Netflix will sink if they start pushing this crap in the US, and restricting devices to home network.
sure, but also differentiated by quality, which is silly. bump a few bucks and allow the 4 streams in up to 4k from wherever (not like they're actually pushing 4k to ipads/phones). bump 2 streams a few bucks, bump 1 stream a few bucks, bump the ad tier a buck. avoid all this ******** about policing and exempting who's where and when etc.
the people who are gonna stay are gonna stay for a few bucks - you keep your internal costs down and avoid pissing people off and all the neg PR
There goes Netflix. Up to 6€ for a 4k stream would be worth it for me - as soon as the crackdown on piracy becomes effictive in my country, I'll give my 3 peers their 4,50€ a month back, cancel my account and will be back to pirating the occasional show as long as they still exist.
In other countries than the US, such as the Netherlands, a lot - like really double digit percentages - of people travel using public transport. A lot of them watch Netflix.
Reading the communication I’m not sure this counts as “traveling” as that seems to be intended for vacation homes etc.
Also, what is stopping us from creating a VPN to a single household address external IP and using that? This will be made very easy (open source will do that) and then they can’t track this. Wait until the Netflix app wants to use your GPS location…
Reading the communication I’m not sure this counts as “traveling” as that seems to be intended for vacation homes etc.
Also, what is stopping us from creating a VPN to a single household address external IP and using that? This will be made very easy (open source will do that) and then they can’t track this. Wait until the Netflix app wants to use your GPS location…
I predict someone will write a how-to for setting up a raspberry Pi with a VPN server and people can log in once a week
Does anyone know how this works if you move around a lot?
Saying in friends homes, in hotels, on holiday etc?
I don't share my password and only ever watch one stream at a time ever (wish there was a cheaper plan for 1 stream) but just wondering how in practise netflix know it's you in different places?
Saying in friends homes, in hotels, on holiday etc?
I don't share my password and only ever watch one stream at a time ever (wish there was a cheaper plan for 1 stream) but just wondering how in practise netflix know it's you in different places?
A great many household devices connect to the internet through WiFi or a LAN cable and via a router which will use a dynamic IP address. Your ISP will operate a pool of IP addresses and will temporarily allocate one to your router when it connects via a process similar to DHCP. The same thing will happen for cellular devices in the same household if they connect to the internet via 4G/5G. None of these IP addresses are directly linked to the concept of a household address and they regularly change. Some folks have a static IP address but not many.
So how do Netflix reliably track which devices are at the same household address to implement and enforce their policy?
I start watching Netflix. They capture my current IP and link it to my account. Overnight my IP address changes. Next day… what? I’m now considered a sharer by their system?
One corner of my house has poor WiFi so when one of my kids wants to stream they decide to use their 4G because they have plenty of data left this month. Different IP. They’re a sharer?
So how do Netflix reliably track which devices are at the same household address to implement and enforce their policy?
I start watching Netflix. They capture my current IP and link it to my account. Overnight my IP address changes. Next day… what? I’m now considered a sharer by their system?
One corner of my house has poor WiFi so when one of my kids wants to stream they decide to use their 4G because they have plenty of data left this month. Different IP. They’re a sharer?
Funny , because I share my apple iTunes purchases with friends and family perfectly legally and have for ages
Netflix are irrelevant to me , greedy , short sighted , could learn a lot from apple's attitude
Netflix are irrelevant to me , greedy , short sighted , could learn a lot from apple's attitude
I have a problem with Netflix giving criminals millions for a documentary about their crime. And they made Meghan and Harry famous in the US. That also is a crime.
Have you even tried to think about it? I had 4K plan and we used to (me and my wife) watch something if were able to find what we like. We gave access to my wife's mother, she lives two houses down the road. What kind of crime is that? I don't need 4 screens, I only need 4K on max 2 screens. If Netflix can't get their pricing and options in order i'm not going to lose sleep over it. They made these mangled pricing tiers and got what they deserve.
“Your honor, my client asserts that he has never been legally resident in this country, and so does not have to pay a cent of this tax bill. We have evidence: just look at the state of his teeth!”
I think, nobody cares about the TOS. It's just a matter of how much you're willing to pay. That willingness might be higher in the US where people were already paying a lot in the days of cable. Personally, to me it's not worth paying 18€ for Netflix every month, so if I can't split that cost with 2-3 others, it's goodbye to netflix for all of us.
If it's not feasible to run a streaming service for less money, then so be it. But it kind of seems possible to do that with most of the world's music in one service for less money. I work in the industry as well and TV andfilm is expensive. But as you can see in other countries, it's possible to produce better content for a tenth of the cost if you focus more on good stories and less on SFX and overpaid "stars".
They’d have algorithm that would look at all the devices ip Addresses and if all on the account are consistently using the same ip at same times then all is fine. If this dhcp from isp changes it doesn’t really matter because then all the Netflix clients would change at same time. However, if they are using different ip addresses over a month or so straight then it flags. As long as they all connect via same address often enough like once a month then they probably consider it ok as all being from same house. This would allow casual roaming or using at hotels vacation homes etc.