Yep, just another opinion.People can argue what they want to argue, and I’m free to think it’s preposterous to do so.
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Netflix Cracking Down on Password Sharing in Four More Countries, Including Canada
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To each their own, but what you get for your dollar with a cellular provider varies vastly depending on their coverage where you, personally, live and what features they offer.
Trying to insult somebody for their carrier choice without knowing what coverage the alternatives have where they live is particularly silly--I know areas where Verizon is the only option, period, while in my town T-Mobile happens to have a new tower and better coverage, along with ~250Mbit 5G-UC instead of overloaded LTE and signal so spotty a co-worker couldn't even get service in his office.
Genuine question, though: For those of us who travel internationally regularly, is there even any competition for T-Mobile? 5GB of high-speed international data, and unlimited slow-speed data, included with your plan, with no extra charges, is unique as far as I know. The add-on options are even better if you need it--I think I'm paying T-Mobile less right now for cell service in Japan than some of the people I know who live here pay DoCoMo or Softbank.
Their problem is that Netflix prioritised quantity over quality. Having more money isn’t going to solve the problem if it just means they end up churning out more crap.
What a bunch of whiners most of you are. I am glad that Netflix is cracking down on password sharing - sharing your password outside your household paramounts theft. You all know this, you just don’t like that everyone will have to pay for the service they have been freeloading on. I have Netflix, and I pay for it, and never would I give my access to someone else.
And all the lame BS reasons why - it’s for my son away at college, I pay for 4 screens but only use 1, Netflix is too expensive, it’s my right to share my access because Netflix once said sharing is caring, and on and on and on. Get over yourselves! You just want a free service and now it will end.
It was the same when Adobe made it difficult to use their solutions on several computers, and when they introduced subscriptions based SW… All the people in here who were going to drop Adobe, find something else… Few did, and Adobe is still the best suite out there. Microsoft Office - the same story.
If you don’t want to pay for Netflix, don’t!
And all the lame BS reasons why - it’s for my son away at college, I pay for 4 screens but only use 1, Netflix is too expensive, it’s my right to share my access because Netflix once said sharing is caring, and on and on and on. Get over yourselves! You just want a free service and now it will end.
It was the same when Adobe made it difficult to use their solutions on several computers, and when they introduced subscriptions based SW… All the people in here who were going to drop Adobe, find something else… Few did, and Adobe is still the best suite out there. Microsoft Office - the same story.
If you don’t want to pay for Netflix, don’t!
Not interested in codes or “unique processes.” I pay for streaming for the convenience. If it’s inconvenient I’ll simply cancel.
And I am sure Netflix will change their new process because you are cancelling. Please get over yourself.
Did you read all of it? They are quite clear about what could change, and it's pretty much exactly what's going on now.
"Fourth, a hypothetical case involving SVOD password sharing probably lacks the element of affirmative revocation, which was a significant factor in the majority’s Nosal II analysis."
They go on to explain:
"What would affirmatively revoking SVOD access even look like? Even if all SVOD services, arguendo, updated their terms-of-use agreements to categorically prohibit using someone else’s password, this would still seem to fall short of the type of affirmative, individualized revocation contemplated in Nosal II. Affirmative revocation would seem to require Netflix or HBO take stronger, more direct action. This could take several forms. Affirmative revocation might require, for instance, sending an individualized cease and desist letter to someone who is flagged for using a shared password.[6] As far as I am aware, however, ***Netflix and HBO do not currently send cease and desist letters to individuals who use borrowed passwords***, at least not as a general business practice."
The emphasis I added is pretty important if you don't want to read the whole thing . . .
Though I really don't know what you're even getting at with this "as much as I'd like it to be" thing. I didn't even say it was. Just that it's not nearly so black and white, and that if it does get ruled to be a crime, exactly what is happening now is the thing that might do it. But maybe that's too nuanced. That's for people who actually read past two paragraphs instead of just desperately looking for a quote that confirms what they already believe.
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Oh, okay, Mr "Coolio" -- do you work for Netflix? The kids in college thing is hardly "lame" as a "BS reason." Kids in college have no "household" outside of the one provided by their parents. The law recognizes that, and normalcy recognizes that. Being a snowbird is also a legitimate use case.
Is the house buying the service? No -- a human is. Netflix obviously has the right to set whatever rules they want. I have the right to find them moronic and then not use them. I also have the right to call it moronic. I very rarely watch Netflix -- the kids watch it. They are in college and can't pay for their own accounts, and i'm certainly not going to pay even MORE for something I rarely watch, so everyone loses, and Netflix, a service I have been a member of since they sent me DVD's in the mail will lose me as a customer over their inability to manage their books.
And I will say, and this is a very big truth: those young people will find other ways to get the content from Netflix *for free* anyway. So Netflix is still stupid.
This is hardly a secret, but it's interesting how, early on, Netflix basically walked up to a bunch of famous filmmakers and said "Here's a huge pile of money, make a TV show about whatever you want, with almost complete creative freedom." Most of it wasn't my thing, but there were certainly a lot of interesting, high-quality things to come out of it.
Then at some point along the line they figured out that they threw a tiny amount of money at enough particularly niche reality TV concepts, true-crime series, documentaries, and foreign shows, there were enough people cumulatively willing to watch them that apparently the economics worked out better.
They ended up cancelling most of the "prestige" stuff and it now seems like the services is absolutely overwhelmed with stuff that looks somewhere between extremely stupid and passably interesting (which shows are which depend entirely on taste), and have the budget of a student film.
It's not that all of the weird little things are bad, or that they don't make any high-quality shows, but the balance seems to have overwhelmingly shifted from "Wow, that show is so cool I kind of want to subscribe to Netflix to watch it" to "I need something to put on while doing laundry, this doesn't look entirely boring." Which is why I only have a subscription as a cell-plan freebie, and even then have watched I think two shows on it in the last six months.
Their content is about to get a lot less relevant as I’d expect a significant chunk of non paying viewers won’t be talking about it on social media and adding to the hype. I pay for it but lend my password out to my mother and father in law. I know dozens of people who have Netflix but use other peoples passwords lol. Netflix probably think all these people will suddenly ‘just subscribe’….. I very much doubt they will as it’s only £6.99 a month now and they aren’t paying that.
The way this whole mess has been communicated is so off putting. Once they block me, I am not going to renew out of spite. Shame as a loyal customer for 10 years but there are other sources available.
The content has not been the same anyway. I remember the early days when „Netflix Original“ actually stood for something and they had like one show every other month, not 20 shows a month that hardly gets any promotion to survive for more than a season. This was one of their pros over network tv in the beginning because u didn’t have to worry about their shows being cancelled. Now it’s even worse than network tv as they don’t share any rating figures so you have no idea how a show is performing before giving it a chance.
In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised it this does not work correctly and it flags people, who do not even share their account. Just like they fked up VPN users years ago when they introduced the regional blocks to watch content from other regions
The content has not been the same anyway. I remember the early days when „Netflix Original“ actually stood for something and they had like one show every other month, not 20 shows a month that hardly gets any promotion to survive for more than a season. This was one of their pros over network tv in the beginning because u didn’t have to worry about their shows being cancelled. Now it’s even worse than network tv as they don’t share any rating figures so you have no idea how a show is performing before giving it a chance.
In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised it this does not work correctly and it flags people, who do not even share their account. Just like they fked up VPN users years ago when they introduced the regional blocks to watch content from other regions
Because the whole thing to track down people sharing an account seems so confusing. I have no idea how they are going to keep track of it.
Let’s say I have my own Netflix in Berlin, I visit my family in another state every other month and log in with my account from their tv to watch something. Am I supposed to carry their tv to my place eventually to get it white flagged? Also people hardly have a static IP here. How are they supposed to know if I am on my own network or on my neighbors when my IP changes every night
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I totally understand why people started to share. Why pay 20 bucks only to get 4K as a single household. That’s like 12 bucks extra just to get 4K! Simply offer 4K on the single plan and people will make their own account.
I'm really fascinated how many people are preemptively so concerned about this, while also maintaining they don't care that much about Netflix.
When Apple announced they'd deactivate phones that were reported stolen, did you swear you'd never use an iPhone again when they deactivated you by mistake? It'll probably be fine. And if it's not, they have lots of competitors. I only have HBO and no Netflix, and my life is pretty alright.
It'll certainly be interesting to see how they manage it. I must admit if I am beng pestered to confirm my details all the time and when I take my iPad away with me on business, I will cancel mine. I can download Netflix content off other sites if I really want to watch something. Right now Netflix is cheap and easy to use and I hope they don't go overboard with the crackdown as it will put even more people off.
More money means Netflix will be able to pay for better quality shows, well that's their argument but they need to get the money first and enforcing their password sharing rules in their T&C's is a way to do it. The thing is Netflix customers will need to hold Netflix to account if they do not see better quality programs appearing on their streaming service whilst Netflix is getting an increase in revenue.
I'd argue more money simply means even MORE average shows but I get it, since more and more studios pull their content for their own streaming services, Netflix is in kind of a predicament and simply needs content for "everyone". From those of which love Reality trash tv, romantic, drama, crime, murder to mindless action flicks
Netflix customers will simply leave, at least some of them till they get their act together with better shows. Customers dont owe companies, including apple if they are subpar.
They spent hundred of millions hiring the Rock, Gal Gadot and Ryan Reynolds for a 2-hour movie, but evidently couldn't have spent a little more hammering out a better script? They gave me a season of shows like Shadow and Bone, Jupiter and Lady in the Lake, and then just discontinued them on a whim, but can evidently commit to 6 seasons of She-ra. I love Disenchantment but it seems like the creator is just stretching out the show for as long as he can.
I believe it's not a money issue, but a cultural one. Their attitude towards content is based on metrics and engagement. In their eyes, shows are there to kill time and give users a reason to stay on their platform. An hour of content is an hour of content, regardless of whether it's boring filler, or an Emmy-award winner.
It's just frustrating. They had all this capital and momentum and goodwill and they just squandered it. Like, who are they even creating content for at this point?
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What you've written is my case in point where I stated that customers will have to hold Netflix to account and you have just done that. Customers need to make sure that any revenue gained from changes to the T&C's of password sharing is put right back into the company so they can purchase better quality programs and not into the pockets of directors/owners/shareholders.
There are two ways to do the above:
1. Shareholder revolt
2. Cancel
Number 2 is more effective and easier.
Very few have plans for singles or couples.
I have Apple One Premier because we use News, Music, TV+and need the 2 terabytes of iCloud storage.
But I don't have four others to share with, only my spouse.
Why do I have to pay for extra users that I don't need?
Why not pay for the extra uses only.
If you have a kid away in college, pony up and pay.
Let's not discuss the fact that he/she should be studying rather than wasting time on Netflix.
I have Apple One Premier because we use News, Music, TV+and need the 2 terabytes of iCloud storage.
But I don't have four others to share with, only my spouse.
Why do I have to pay for extra users that I don't need?
Why not pay for the extra uses only.
If you have a kid away in college, pony up and pay.
Let's not discuss the fact that he/she should be studying rather than wasting time on Netflix.
Sure, because students do nothing but study 24/7 and are not allowed two hours off in the evening to watch a movie.
Really? 😂
So, you think students should take two hours a day to watch movies?
Or that you should not have to pay for this?
If students are screwing around this much daily, they are in a powder puff curriculum or have bad grades.