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Netflix Cracking Down on Password Sharing in Four More Countries, Including Canada
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Of course they would upsell you. Maybe there's some secret 6 screens plan that you can only get if you try to use five with four.
Yea maybe they are efficient and smart and budget time well, or maybe they use a movie to fall asleep.
If they would fix this, I bet the sharing would slow. I bet a lot who could get 1/4k wouldn't share anymore.
Huh? Of course. 2 hours is nothing and being at university the last time before adulthood really kicks your ass. I never met anyone in my entire life that did NOT not start to study until the last minute like 3 weeks before the exams each semester unless you study law or medicine.
Here’s what’s gonna happen, at least in Portugal (where I live, so I clearly know what I’m talking about): in households where parents actually watch the damned shows, kids will just pirate the hell out of them instead, and where parents don’t really have much use for Netflix, if their kids are living abroad, or studying in different cities… the household will cancel the subscription and kids will just pirate the hell out of Netflix content. Don’t shoot the messenger, that’s just what’s gonna happen. 🤷♂️
Perhaps I should have said that an intelligent student would find something more constructive to do with his/her time than veg out staring at a screen. Waste your time as you will, I didn’t.
So the kids will then run afoul of some anti-piracy laws. Sure better than paying for the sub.
Nothing like cutting if your nose to spite your face. If the number of people who are vocal about apple in these forums leave apple, apple would have a day of reckoning. So while some may cancel “out of principle”, I wonder how the average Joe or Jane will react.
Well aren’t we all glad it’s not up to you to decide how to define intelligence and how people spent their time 😉 I don’t even know what you are doing in this thread if you find Netflix is a waste of time 🤷🏼♂️
These days, it's not THAT hard. How invested you are is one variable. However, in this arena, once you lose someone, it's also harder for them to go back.
And a disgruntled customer tells a lot more people then a gruntled customer.
I find most people even close friend who are “disgruntled “ about something have their own reasons that are not my reasons. (One of the exceptions is food poisoning from a restaurant because that is tangible.) many have their own axe to grind.
I don't think that's true, maybe it was years ago, but it's not anymore.
I mean, I'm pretty sure it's safe to say that in general, outside of these forums and places like them, Apple haters are way, way, way, *way* louder than their fans. And Apple is doing uhm, just fine. Customer loyalty to brands these days is . . . weird. It's like the disgruntled customers just create fans who are thrilled to be on the other side of something.
So you don't watch Netflix now do you? You're an adult you have work to do and if you don't have work to do then you have a lazy job and are a lazy human.
Why are you here?
I have never read the Netflix service agreement, so I wouldn't know if it specifies that the use is limited to devices (4) on a single household, if this is the case they have never enforced it, until now.
I have never shared my Netlflix password, but now it seems that according to Netflix's new rules I "share" the password with myself. I have Netflix on an AppleTV and on a Firestick at home, then I have it on a Firestick at my office and on another Firestick at my weekend house. I have it on my iPhone and on my iPad, which I very rarely use to watch it. Weeks can go by with me not watching Netflix at the office or my weekend house and for sure it is never on at more than one device at a time.
It is much easier to establish if a password is shared just by analyzing what the profiles are watching. If a profile on one device picks up were the same profile left off on another device, it would be very rare that the password is shared, its is the same person just on a different device/location.
If at one point Netflix tries to charge me more for my viewing habits, I won't pay more, I will just limit watching Netflix at home.
I have never shared my Netlflix password, but now it seems that according to Netflix's new rules I "share" the password with myself. I have Netflix on an AppleTV and on a Firestick at home, then I have it on a Firestick at my office and on another Firestick at my weekend house. I have it on my iPhone and on my iPad, which I very rarely use to watch it. Weeks can go by with me not watching Netflix at the office or my weekend house and for sure it is never on at more than one device at a time.
It is much easier to establish if a password is shared just by analyzing what the profiles are watching. If a profile on one device picks up were the same profile left off on another device, it would be very rare that the password is shared, its is the same person just on a different device/location.
If at one point Netflix tries to charge me more for my viewing habits, I won't pay more, I will just limit watching Netflix at home.
While I support netflix’s right to kill their business with bad decisions, making a legitimate user pay more would be suicide.
I am sure Netflix thought this through as to not kill their business even if some MR posters are already terminating their subscriptions.
They’re not really enforced here and the economy is in the doldrums, meaning, people are way more concerned with stuff at the base of Maslow’s pyramid, not effing Netflix shows. Heck, many won’t even pirate anything, just cancel Netflix and read a book or something. As I said, I’m just dishing out facts here. Netflix is really screwing the pooch with this one.
They are fishing for the public opinion. They didn’t want to play the game in big markets like US. They trying to see the impact with smaller markets. They could have easily rolled out starting with US, if they wanted to screwup.
Netflix on this days is totally overpriced, they are launching crappy new content every week just to fill in the gap.
Less is more.
Less is more.
Couple of things:
1) I tried to set my "primary location" last night following the instructions I got from Netflix in email and didn't see anything in my Netflix app on my Apple TV that matched the instructions. I'm wondering if when they mean "when signed into Netflix from a TV that is connected" they mean an actual Smart TV app and not the Apple TV app. But will try again in a few days in case they hadn't updated the Netflix app in Canada yet to support this.
2) I went to browse Netflix on my PC at work over lunch today to check for availability on a few titles, and got a screen overlay about how NETFLIX IS FOR USE IN ONE HOUSEHOLD ONLY. Oh, that's not going to be annoying AT ALL. As noted in another post, my grown kids are now set up as paid members on our account, so we're all copacetic and aligned to the new Terms of Service. But, if they start to digitally pester me because I scroll Netflix "coming soon" on my work computer....
1) I tried to set my "primary location" last night following the instructions I got from Netflix in email and didn't see anything in my Netflix app on my Apple TV that matched the instructions. I'm wondering if when they mean "when signed into Netflix from a TV that is connected" they mean an actual Smart TV app and not the Apple TV app. But will try again in a few days in case they hadn't updated the Netflix app in Canada yet to support this.
2) I went to browse Netflix on my PC at work over lunch today to check for availability on a few titles, and got a screen overlay about how NETFLIX IS FOR USE IN ONE HOUSEHOLD ONLY. Oh, that's not going to be annoying AT ALL. As noted in another post, my grown kids are now set up as paid members on our account, so we're all copacetic and aligned to the new Terms of Service. But, if they start to digitally pester me because I scroll Netflix "coming soon" on my work computer....
Thank you for sharing that article.Anyway, see what Cory Doctorow has to say:
I don't necessarily agree with every conclusion and opinion, but Doctorow really, really knows his stuff, and has a fascinating take on this from the perspective of a deep insider who also has an incredible understanding of information exchange technologies and structures.
One thing Doctorow doesn't discuss, and seems to be so much simpler to understand and easily applicable to a wide-range of situations and edge cases, not to mention sidesteps all of the analogies both useful and tortured: If Netflix decided to frame their business as selling streams rather than trying to define who is on the other end of them, the only complaint in any of this would be that they're offering less streams for the same price.
When I sign up for a cell plan, I pay per line. As awful as cell providers are in general, they don't litigate how many people are able to answer the device attached to that SIM card when it rings, or where that phone spends most of its time, or where the person who usually carries that device sleeps at night most of the time.
On that same plan, I pay for 40GB of tethered data; it doesn't matter what device or devices that data is going to, where I'm located when I provide data to them, or what my relationship is to the person who owns the device.
I pay my email service per IMAP mailbox; it doesn't matter how many people check each box, where they are, what country they live in, how many addresses feed into that box, or what their relationship is to other box owners.
Netflix already has a clear metric for this: Number of streams. You get from 1 to 4 streams, depending on how much your plan costs. There's no particular reason, if I'm paying for two simultaneous streams, it would be easier for everyone involved--and cost them far less in sharing-detection infrastructure--if that's exactly what they sold, and stopped caring who specifically used them. If they genuinely think they've undercharged in order to build market share now that the no-competition-era is over, they might have to re-think the number of streams offered, but that would be simple to understand, covers just about every reasonable edge case, and even if the price goes up at least there's no background algorithm gatekeeper deciding who's cheating and who isn't.
So, in fact, I had to use the Netflix app on my smart TV to set my primary location.