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Content and Price those are the 2 things that make any streaming company. As for content, Netflix has it. But as for price they have outpriced themselves.
They could add a premium tier with something novel. However the price for the content that they’re providing is high
 
Im Concerned how this can implemented and tracked. My wife and I both travel for work. We also live in two different locations. So we’re constantly logging in from different ip’s. I don’t see why we should pay extra for that.
We’re in exactly the same boat. Both travel to different states. Plus of course my son in another one!

Apple have it right with Family Sharing.
 
Content quality down. Prices up. More competition. This is the logical conclusion.

Blaming account sharing now after it has been happening for years is kinda lame.
 
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The main problem probably lies with the way people value Internet corporations. Would they take reasonable ROI computation bases, these variations would be much smaller. But many play with stock the same way they play in casino, so value is more based on speculations than on fundamentals.
 
I must be the only person in my extended family that actually pays a subscription, everyone else shares someone else's account. I have cancelled my subscription partly due to the fact that most new releases are aimed at a certain demographic and I am not one of them, yes I am an old fart. Can you imagine hiring a car and telling the hire company you want all your family to be able to drive the car during the hire period, See how much the hire cost rises accordingly?.
 
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Honestly, it's probably because of TikTok. TikTok is a social entertainment app. It's addicting, informative, educational, funny, and interesting. The new way forward is 3-10 minute, vertical video, mini series shows. JUST SAYIN
If you’re an attention addled mouth breather perhaps.
 
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Netflix lost subscribers for the first time in more than a decade in Q1 2022, according to subscriber numbers the company said during today's earnings results. Netflix is down more than 200,000 subscribers, and the losses are set to continue.

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Netflix was expecting to add 2.5 million subscribers in the first quarter of 2022, but did not hit that target. The suspension of its business in Russia cost it 700,000 subscribers, and without that loss, Netflix would have added 500,000 paid global users, which is still well below its projections.

In the United States and Canada, Netflix lost 600,000 customers, due to recent pricing changes. Netflix said this subscriber loss was anticipated and in line with expectations.

In a letter to shareholders [PDF], Netflix said that revenue growth has "slowed considerably," with the company faulting "a large number of households sharing accounts" and "competition" as reasons for the drop off. Netflix estimates that its 222 million paying households are sharing with an additional 100 million households that are not being monetized.

Going forward, Netflix said that it plans to implement "more effective monetization of multi-household sharing," which suggests that Netflix will soon enact measures to prevent account sharing. Netflix in March began testing an extra payment for those who share their Netflix accounts with people outside their households.

In Netflix's current test markets of Chile, Costa Rica, and Peru, customers can pay an extra fee to share their accounts with two people outside of their household. When the test was launched, Netflix said that it was working to "understand the utility of these two features" before making changes in other countries.

Netflix has always included wording in its terms and services that prevents account usage across multiple households, but until now, the service has ignored password sharing. Netflix also recently enacted new price hikes, and a 4K streaming plan is priced at $20 per month.

It's worth noting that Netflix is the only streaming service that charges by streaming quality. In the U.S., Netflix charges $9.99 for the Basic no-HD plan that allows for streaming on a single device, $15.49 for a Standard HD plan that allows for two people to watch at the same time, and $19.99 for a Premium plan with Ultra HD streaming and support for four simultaneous viewers.

In the second quarter of 2022, Netflix is anticipating losing two million paid subscribers. To mitigate the continued losses, Netflix co-CEO Reed Hastings said that in addition to addressing password sharing, the company is considering a more affordable, ad-supported plan within a year or two.

Article Link: Netflix Loses Subscribers for the First Time in 10 Years, Blames Account Sharing
It's a good idea to share accounts only they couldn't manage to think better how to monetize it in a profitable way.
 
Im Concerned how this can implemented and tracked. My wife and I both travel for work. We also live in two different locations. So we’re constantly logging in from different ip’s. I don’t see why we should pay extra for that.

Not sure how they would even do it. IP wouldn't really work either. Just think of dorm rooms, everyone has the same IP. We do not have a static IP either so it changes every night. Of course there is also VPN, which has a legitime reasons to exist (not everyone uses it to get around regional content restrictions).
 
I always cancle my subscription right after I make one, reasons are content and price. And the new prices will probably make me use Netflix way less than I already am.

Also I wish they would stop canceling my favorite shows after 1 season ?
 
Maybe they actually have "too much" content.
You can only scroll through so many shows. There is a lot of content that loses prominence after a few weeks so is essentially lost to most customers unless Netflix recommends it to them out of the blue.
So it seems no one is getting a good deal right now. Not the customer who is paying more and more for content that they aren't physically able to watch (how much time in the day?). Also Netflix is creating more and more shows that are finding less and less viewers.

I also think the perceived value is going down because they dont have the Hollywood films like Disney has. From a consumer point of view a movie ticket cost £10-15, even renting from Apple/Google cost £5. So when you see Disney with all its Marvel/Star Wars stuff etc.. its like a bit of a steal. Plus all the kids stuff. If you're only going to buy one streaming service for your whole family its probably going to be Disney at the moment.
 
A global pandemic, war in Europe, red hot inflation and a possible recession looming in the near future. People are and will continue to lean up their budgets.
Not to mention a lot of people took out Netflix subscriptions when they were locked down at home during the pandemic. Now people have so much more to do than sit at home watching TV shows & movies.
 
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Tends to happen when you keep increasing the price. I mean we cut the cable so we can save money, not so much now that everyone is going with subscription model. It's even more expensive than cables, and Netflix keep abusing its price? Well good ridden, I'd just subscribe several months in a year just to binge my favorite shows, and that's it.
 


Netflix lost subscribers for the first time in more than a decade in Q1 2022, according to subscriber numbers the company said during today's earnings results. Netflix is down more than 200,000 subscribers, and the losses are set to continue.

netflix2.jpg

Netflix was expecting to add 2.5 million subscribers in the first quarter of 2022, but did not hit that target. The suspension of its business in Russia cost it 700,000 subscribers, and without that loss, Netflix would have added 500,000 paid global users, which is still well below its projections.

In the United States and Canada, Netflix lost 600,000 customers, due to recent pricing changes. Netflix said this subscriber loss was anticipated and in line with expectations.

In a letter to shareholders [PDF], Netflix said that revenue growth has "slowed considerably," with the company faulting "a large number of households sharing accounts" and "competition" as reasons for the drop off. Netflix estimates that its 222 million paying households are sharing with an additional 100 million households that are not being monetized.

Going forward, Netflix said that it plans to implement "more effective monetization of multi-household sharing," which suggests that Netflix will soon enact measures to prevent account sharing. Netflix in March began testing an extra payment for those who share their Netflix accounts with people outside their households.

In Netflix's current test markets of Chile, Costa Rica, and Peru, customers can pay an extra fee to share their accounts with two people outside of their household. When the test was launched, Netflix said that it was working to "understand the utility of these two features" before making changes in other countries.

Netflix has always included wording in its terms and services that prevents account usage across multiple households, but until now, the service has ignored password sharing. Netflix also recently enacted new price hikes, and a 4K streaming plan is priced at $20 per month.

It's worth noting that Netflix is the only streaming service that charges by streaming quality. In the U.S., Netflix charges $9.99 for the Basic no-HD plan that allows for streaming on a single device, $15.49 for a Standard HD plan that allows for two people to watch at the same time, and $19.99 for a Premium plan with Ultra HD streaming and support for four simultaneous viewers.

In the second quarter of 2022, Netflix is anticipating losing two million paid subscribers. To mitigate the continued losses, Netflix co-CEO Reed Hastings said that in addition to addressing password sharing, the company is considering a more affordable, ad-supported plan within a year or two.

Article Link: Netflix Loses Subscribers for the First Time in 10 Years, Blames Account Sharing
Lol didnt they implement somthing against account sharring? so now they say the measure they put in places have failed and that cost them customers lol
 
Two issues —

1. Account sharing — this is unethical. It is essentially stealing. People have tried to justify bad behavior since the beginning of time.

2. Increased pricing — they have continued to increase the pricing gap between them and their competitors. This will naturally drive some users away.

3. No discounted annual plan

Is #2 a reaction to #1, or is it the other way around? Would #3 fix the problem, or just increase the possibility of #1?

Just as in retail, shoplifting contributes to the increase in prices — I would imagine account sharing contributes to increased subscription costs. The solution in retail is to either stop selling the product, or to put a barrier between the product and the consumer. The latter option can reduce sales, but you still come out ahead in most cases.
Sorry, but this post is silly. there is nothing unethical than me sharing my Netflix password with my parents who live in the same town. It is in no way essentially stealing. it is not bad behavior. The data is being tracked. Speaking of other bad arguments, shoplifting is an excuse for raising prices, but the reality is wage theft is a 100x problem over shoplifting, because companies don’t care about people.
 
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Netflix just sucks these days. They've had enough time to get their production quality in order, before Disney and ohters came into streaming play, but obviously failed in doing so. Now they are producing crap content, hiking the prices, started a jihad against account sharing, and losing money. If they dont do something radical, the market will decimate them even further.
 
Russian Doll season 1 was alright. Not seen second yet, just released.

If it were on AppleTV+ the fanboys would go wild for it.
 
For single adults, their friends are the closest thing they have to a family. I like Apple's approach, which gives you six complete accounts in the family plan. No one in their right mind would share their primary Apple ID password! And Disney+, if you pay for four streams at once you should get four streams at once, whether you have a SO and kids or not.

I just wish Apple would buy a major movie studio so we can get a lot of content all at once.
 
I think it's a combination of things Netflix used to be one of the only services you could get, but now you've got Amazon and Disney+, AppleTV+, and a bunch of others all with their own exclusive content. Netflix can't expect everyone to subscribe to everything. I'm hearing that some people will share their subscription with someone who will share a different subscription with them. As long as you remain within the limit of users you are paying for they really shouldn't be complaining.
 
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I think it's a combination of things Netflix used to be one of the only services you could get, but now you've got Amazon and Disney+, AppleTV+, and a bunch of others all with their own exclusive content. Netflix can't expect everyone to subscribe to everything. I'm hearing that some people will share their subscription with someone who will share a different subscription with them. As long as you remain within the limit of users you are paying for they really shouldn't be complaining.
This! there is no justification for what they are or are planning to do
 
What BS. Account sharing has existed ever since Netflix allowed more than one screen. So why Netflix didn’t talk about it when they are gaining customers? Why only blame something that’s been going on forever only now?

Price go up, demand goes down. Plain and simple. Netflix executives need to go back to school.
 
The only reason I keep regular Netflix is because my family also use it intermittently. If they clamp down on account sharing there’s no reason for me to keep it for me, as I don’t use it enough by myself to justify a recurring subscription, and I doubt any of them would be taking up individual recurring subscriptions themselves if cut off. We’d all probably just subscribe when something we want to watch comes out and then cancel.

It seems like a dangerous move for Netflix to make an issue of this, because it could just as easily backfire and result in fewer people continuing subscriptions that they would otherwise just let slide through indefinitely. Forcing people to analyse whether they personally need it on an ongoing basis by being dicks about it seems risky.

Apple TV+ has less content, but it’s cheaper and in 4K by default, and I’m increasingly finding I’m watching a lot more on that than I am regularly on most of the others at the moment. It has less, but a much higher rate of stuff I think is really good and am interested in. I did not expect this.
 
Market saturation combined with price hikes, it has nothing to do with account sharing that’s an excuse they give the shareholders.
 
Adding my voice here, we just didn't find their offerings that compelling for the price increases we endured during our stay on the service. That, and as others have mentioned, lots of their original content isn't worth wasting the time on. Now they're considering an ad-supported tier. If it's cheap like Hulu's ad-supported tier, we'd consider coming back, as a few ads in a program don't bother us much.
 
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