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I suspect they'll offer some kind of "family plan", i.e., some kind of device registration implementation not unlike iTunes, so they won't so much care "where" the device is located, but total devices (and a price per model).



I assume that even if it's something as primitive as IP based initially (just to start pushing out these warnings), they have a roadmap to do something to allow for X number of "access accounts", including mobile/remote where you aren't on the same network (see above).

so my gf and I have AT&T on the same plan and my phone public IP originates from Chicago and hers from Atlanta (I believe) while both at home. So is Netflix going to say anything about this?
 
Once again, All of a sudden your an expert now? I'm not even going to waste my time replying to you anymore dude! Best wishes and good luck to you. See you in Disneyland ;)

WOW, you are the thief (see post #98) but I'm somehow the bad guy? Why don't you be more careful what you post and actually have ideas on how to backup your claims.
 
so my gf and I have AT&T on the same plan and my phone public IP originates from Chicago and hers from Atlanta (I believe) while both at home. So is Netflix going to say anything about this?

I don't have any insider info on how Netflix will handle this (i.e., I'm talking OOMA :D), though I'd guess in the short term you might get some warnings, and/or (at least based on this article), maybe some actual issues with streaming. My assertion was taking a step back and thinking about how people access services in 2021 (remote, traveling, etc.) and how to accommodate those use cases. I would __think__ Netflix would provide some kind of service access beyond something as simple as IP screening.

People use their devices on different networks, people have home internet service, which often differs from their mobile service (i.e., different IP blocks), how would they determine the "home" IP, just lots of technical and customer service concerns to not do something that doesn't piss off subscribers. Basically they have the concern of service cost vs. infrastructure cost.

I'd think they may move back to some kind of device registration / limited number of devices model, so in the future, you'd pay for "6 device access". You know, kind of like how iTunes works (where you have X number of unique device registrations). Obviously, using that implementation, there would still be easy ways to "share" an account, but it would be a little more self-policing, like if I had 4 devices, and let a friend use one access "license", but then decided I want to add a new Apple TV to a room, I'd want it back, or choose to bump up to (let's say), the 6 device plan, but that would cost more.

Right now, we're on the 4K "unlimited" plan, so if I shared that with 10 other families, with 4-5 devices each, that's a __ton__ of potential bandwidth consumed. I like they made it simple, we've got multiple Apple TVs, computers, tablets, phones, and we don't have to worry about how many can access Netflix.

So short version: I suspect (and at least hope), that Netflix does something better than "You and your GF are on different networks, so you can't share an account" :)
 
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Good. Bring on the downvotes but like people who stole Adobe Photoshop back in the day leading to photoshop costing $700 for a license or whatever it was before Creative Suite subscriptions came along, we paid for people who were freeloading. If Netflix can get every household to pay their fare share, maybe these price hikes will stop being a yearly festivity.

...and if you don't like it, literally every show on Netflix is available on BitTorrent.
I like how you knew in advance that what you were gonna type was gonna be absurd. Good job likening parents sharing their accounts with their kids in college to criminal acts of thievery.
 
I dislike them doing that. I might consider my friend to be just as close as a family member! I’m sure they’ve got some legalese in their terms of service that makes it so your “4 streams” aren’t allowed to be shared as you, the buyer, see fit. If I buy 4 VHS tapes of something, I can lend them out to whoever I want. Digital sales are so borked up, all to the advantage of the big companies, and against the consumer.
There's nothing actually stopping you from sharing it with others. And if streaming services in general try to charge or restrict things too much, people can turn to piracy. So really anyone trying to freeload has the advantage, which makes things difficult for content creators ultimately.
 
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Why do you consider Netflix greedy when you just admitted that you stole from them?
It's the usual. Company provides entertainment for a fee, people want it for free and throw a tantrum when they have to pay. Even though TV is one of the least necessary things ever.

I admit it, I use someone else's Netflix account. Everyone does it. If Netflix wants to stop that, I don't blame them. Would be more fair anyway. Or maybe they should limit by number of streams instead.
 
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We pay for the kids Spotify and we share Netflix with him.
If this becomes an issue, we'll just drop Netflix. It's not like they offer anything good anyone in the areas we like. Their Horror genre is terrible. The Office is gone.
We specifically pay for a certain amount of SCREENS. Not HOUSES.
If they have a problem with us utilizing what we bought, that's on them.
Smells like I'll be forced back into pirating soon.
 
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We pay for the kids Spotify and we share Netflix with him.
If this becomes an issue, we'll just drop Netflix. It's not like they offer anything good anyone in the areas we like. Their Horror genre is terrible. The Office is gone.
We specifically pay for a certain amount of SCREENS. Not HOUSES.
If they have a problem with us utilizing what we bought, that's on them.
Smells like I'll be forced back into pirating soon.
Or you could not watch the show.
 
1. My guess is the message is sent to heavy users, not light users.

2. Now that everyone and their brother is pulling their content and starting a competing streaming service that costs less than Netflix, it’s obviously a great idea to piss off existing subscribers and give them more reasons to cancel the costliest service. /s
 
Then please provide a de-facto definition of a household.
My sister and my parents are part of my household. My parents have another house as vacation house. That gets a screen. My sister works outside the city. She gets a screen. Pretty easy and logical to me. Why should they be required to have their own subscriptions?

"A household is defined by the U.S. Census Bureau as all the people who occupy a single housing unit, regardless of their relationship to one another."


Seems like a lot of people think that family = household.
 
So now the logic of household becomes the same permanent residence under the same roof?

So let's say 4 unrelated people are house sharing, they have the same permanent residence, same roof. Then it's completely kosher for these 4 people to share an account then. ;)

Yes, they would constitute a non-family household in the US.

"A household is defined by the U.S. Census Bureau as all the people who occupy a single housing unit, regardless of their relationship to one another."
 
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Great. Now when my mom comes to visit on the weekends, I’ll be able to tell her why she can’t watch Netflix on her iPad here.

OH I know, maybe we could use another service asking for thirteen layers of 7-factor security and fingerprint scans and retina samples and phone calls and text messages every 4 seconds.
 
Netflix is best used in short bursts when a great show is released. Keeping it indefinitely is like paying to surf thumbnails for hours on end.
 
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Netflix is best used in short bursts when a great show is released. Keeping it indefinitely is like paying to surf thumbnails for hours on end.
Yeah, I'm surprised they let you sign up for just a month at a time. Obviously I'm going to cancel when I'm done watching whatever show. And the first month is free!
 
With a saturated market, there are fewer and fewer new customers to target. It makes sense for them, from a business strategy, to try to make paying customers out of people are already using their services for free. The only other opportunity for growth is to charge more money from existing customers - and at some point they'll lose customers with that strategy.

I understand that people can be upset about it, but Netflix has probably been planning some moves like this (and more) for years now (hence their terms of use). What would you do if your business was hitting a plateau in growth and you were facing multiple other viable competitors? To keep costs at an approachable level while continuing to make profit, something has to give. I really don't think they're too concerned about pissing off people who haven't been paying and aren't willing.
 
Dang. so many people complaining. I remember paying $15-20 for a single movie before netflix came along. Cable TV was also ridiculously expensive.. and had commercials.

The higher tiers are just for the "privilege" of watching something you like while your SO is watching something lame and vice versa. Network bandwidth isnt free either.
 
The service used are already paid for. This is not users for some reason streaming netflix illegally (that's impossible). Netflix are the ones offering the tiers with multiple streams being allowed. So that's what people are using.

For example, the highest tier, allows 4 screens at the same time. So 4 separate devices can use the same account. Who cares about the actual persons watching it? The service is already paid for.
Theoretically, they are for your young kids who are otherwise impossible to become Netflix subscribers at the time. Netflix doesn’t want account to be shared with people who are supposed to be independent subscribers, like adults.
 
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