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This might be an unpopular opinion, but now that they’ve done this, I wish they did it sooner, before the price hikes. Maybe the price would not have gone up by as much as it did. We know there’s no chance they’ll drop prices now.
 
Before I bumped to 4 streams I used to get locked out of the account from watching my content because my kids were watching. So I asked one to close out and it took a few minutes for the stream to free up.

Eventually I paid for 4 streams. But it does seem that when using the browser it takes a few minutes to recognize the stream isn’t active.

But after this new policy went into effect I signed into the website and signed out of all devices and started fresh.
But the problem is that some of these older streams are from days, or sometimes even weeks or even months ago. I will take your advice on signing out / in again but I suspect it's their location tracking algorithm not working as intended.
 
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Actually, my bill is WAY cheaper with T-Mobile than AT&T. I pay $122 a month for 4 lines, an Apple Watch, Netflix, and Apple TV plus. $122 and if I take away Netflix and Apple TV Plus, my bill would be under $102 a month (if I was able to). My at&t bill was $180 a month, and didn’t include anything extra. And, my phone works a lot better too where I go.

That may be true but it's higher priced than other T-Mobile plans that don't include things like Netflix.



I wouldn’t say I have Netflix for free, but it’s include.

That was simply my point. It's not "free" (as the other poster I responded to had stated).
 
This might be an unpopular opinion, but now that they’ve done this, I wish they did it sooner, before the price hikes. Maybe the price would not have gone up by as much as it did. We know there’s no chance they’ll drop prices now.

Password sharing was great at advertising for the Netflix service. It made both shows and the service popular with everyone talking about it. Subscribers however started bleeding out and the costs with all of the content still need to be paid.
Netflix actually has a huge problem. Most of their content requires licensing to others. So despite showing all the money coming they a lot of that money also going out to maintain and grow it's catalog.
Most Netflix originals aren't completely owned by Netflix. For example Wendsday. They don't own the characters and have to pay to license it. They are also paying MGM now owned by Amazon to make the show. So despite bringing in some viewers it is costing Netflix. Several originals are also based on books, anime, or licensed from other countries. So sure they can bring in viewers but it's also costing Netflix.
Netflix does however have some completely original content that makes it money. Stranger Things is probably the most popular. So the DC comic, toys, etc are in reverse and Netflix gets paid a license. Problem is that it's ending and not selling all kinds of merchandise anymore.
It seems however like most streaming providers aren't making as much original content that has the potential to make them money and instead paying for content. As a result it's bleeding out money vs making money. Their solution is raising subscribers and/or increasing membership costs.
I am also not sure what Netflix will do after it's trend of promising higher profits and canceling shows is annoying everyone (customers, writers, actors, etc).
 

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I’m going to be curious to see if Netflix will end up cutting off my subscription. I only have 1 device that I use for watching Netflix - my AppleTV. I’m single and have never shared my password with any other person.

So why would I be worried about my account? I’m concerned about their “home network” requirement and how restrictive they will be about it. The majority of the time I use Starlink and don’t stay in one place for all that long. Will they suspend/restrict my account because I don’t check into my account from whatever they decide is my “home location” for months at a time? Will they refuse to give me service if they can’t locate me (I had that happen when I was trying out YouTube Live - I tried to watch a local network TV station but they said they couldn’t locate me and wouldn’t let me watch it). Or suspend my subscription because I use satellite internet, not cable internet (like Hulu Live says in their fine print)?

I’ll be interested to see how this plays out.
 
Sharing a Netflix password is no different than a library sharing (lending out) the books they purchased. But to your eyes, the library is probably aiding and abetting in theft. 🤣
Not exactly. Books are treated differently legally than digital media. (The first sale doctrine (section 109[a]) of the Copyright Act) allows owners of a legal copy of a tangible (physical) work to resell, rent, lend, or give away that copy without the copyright owner's permission. This explicitly permits libraries to lend books from their collections.) Libraries are specifically allowed to loan books out (not that publishers like it), but cannot make physical copies of books to loan. Libraries buy the right to loan out "x" copies of ebooks or audiobooks, but cannot issue more copies than they have purchased licenses for.
 
People are all the same. We'll try to get away with as much as we can until someone cracks down on it. It's human nature. We start as little kids. You try to get away with whatever you can until mommy and daddy put their foot down. Some people mature and grow out of that. Most don't. lol. And you see this in almost every aspect of life. Managers vs Employees, Spouse vs Spouse, Friends vs Friends. Everyone will try to push a boundary until the other party says nope.
 
I havnt seen a DVD rental store for near 10 years. Lucky you if you find one.
Yes I'm not sure if there is anything near us except possibly Redbox which I don't even know for sure. There might still be a 48h.

I think Redbox (with kiosks in various grocery, pharmacy, etc. stores) is about the closest thing available these days, at least at the national level.

Netflix, which helped drive brick-and-mortar rental stores out of business, is getting out of the DVD-by-mail business later this year.
 
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Are you aware of any case law where using someone’s online account password with the account holder’s express permission and no profit has been deemed “theft of service?” Who should be criminally liable in your view? The account holder or the account user?
No I am not aware of any case law nor was I saying this was criminal, per se, but that’s a really good question regarding the liability.

My reply to the other member was in regards to comparing this with taking something off a store shelf which I stated was not even close to the same thing. I used various examples of criminal acts to show differences. Their example was that of larceny.

This is more akin to buying one plate at an all you can eat buffet and feeding several people off that one plate, which would be Theft of Service.
 
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It's funny the number of internet loudspeakers talk about how Netflix's content is not up to scratch compared to other services. No other service offers the breadth of content catering to all demographics and a large number of international titles. I don't expect I will ever get through the Netflix watchlist I have, considering new titles seem to push other titles back in my queue. It seems to be that people complain about Netflix without actually discovering the content they have.
 
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It's funny the number of internet loudspeakers talk about how Netflix's content is not up to scratch compared to other services. No other service offers the breadth of content catering to all demographics and a large number of international titles. I don't expect I will ever get through the Netflix watchlist I have, considering new titles seem to push other titles back in my queue. It seems to be that people complain about Netflix without actually discovering the content they have.
Agreed. I like to watch some of the Foreign films in their catalog.
So I have plenty to watch on Netflix. I only have the basic HD plan but I'm fine with that.

I've always said that a bad HD tv show is still bad in 4k and vice versa that a good show in 4k is still a good show in HD.
 
No surprise there, just like those whining about microtransactions in video games. Consumers like to spend money. Personally I'll continue with my current scheme, sub for a month and binge watch the one or two shows that are worthy of my time, then cancel for another year or two. It's been about 1 1/2 years since I subbed and really don't see much worth my time, but I guess Season 3 of The Witcher might make me cough up a month sub.
 
Customer service reps have been known to give incorrect information or overlook certain things in the interest of getting a better outcome. That doesn’t speak to Netflix policy only the policy of the service rep at that point in time.

For all you know that rep could have been fired for violating company policy when and if Netflix reviewed the transcript.

For Netflix being a corporation that offers a service that depends on discretionary income us customers evaluate value for price.

Netflix may have “tolerated” this because they didn’t have the technology to enforce their tos. Now they do.

Their inability to properly train or monitor what information their support staff disseminates is not on me or any other customer. I mentioned it to someone and they said it was fine. What else is there to discuss?

And given that lots of other people have similar stories and can point to instances of Netflix promoting their service on that basis, it's hard to make the argument that it was one or two bad support reps. I suspect tolerating this was helping to build a customer base at one point and Netflix has decided it's no longer worth it. Again, that's fine. That's their business, but blaming the customer is just a bizarre degree of kowtowing to corporate interests that I cannot understand.
 
Fast food place: "We offer free refills on any fountain drink. Each person must buy their own drink."
Diners: Buys one drink, proceeds to fill up 10 times and distribute to family, friends, co workers.
Fast food place: "Hey, we are implementing a change that largely mitigated sharing your drinks."
Diners: "You selfish, toxic, capitalist pigs."
 
Their inability to properly train or monitor what information their support staff disseminates is not on me or any other customer. I mentioned it to someone and they said it was fine. What else is there to discuss?
If a local cop tells you they don’t go after speeders unless going 10 miles over the speed limit and you get pulled over going 5 miles over the speed limit, that’s on you.
And given that lots of other people have similar stories and can point to instances of Netflix promoting their service on that basis, it's hard to make the argument that it was one or two bad support reps.
Any proof that Netflix was advocating giving out the password to people outside of the primary location?
I suspect tolerating this was helping to build a customer base at one point and Netflix has decided it's no longer worth it. Again, that's fine. That's their business, but blaming the customer is just a bizarre degree of kowtowing to corporate interests that I cannot understand.
The customer signs up for the service.
They should know what they are getting into. Netflix doesn’t give away the ability to enforce the tos because they may not have enforced it in the past.
 
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