That tweet is not their TOS, it was just a tweet. There is a difference.
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That tweet is not their TOS, it was just a tweet. There is a difference.
I dont get it why people are careless about their money and pay "normal" overpriced price for Netflix.
You can get Netflix Premium (UHD) for up to 5.50$ (1$ = 23TL). Same btw with many other subscriptions such as Spotify, Youtube, Disney+, Xbox, PlayStation Plus and much more.
Swiss retail price for UHD would have been like 30$ instead of like 5.50
You can get Netflix Premium (UHD) for up to 5.50$ (1$ = 23TL). Same btw with many other subscriptions such as Spotify, Youtube, Disney+, Xbox, PlayStation Plus and much more.
Swiss retail price for UHD would have been like 30$ instead of like 5.50
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We cancelled this week. After continuous price increases this was the last straw. We had the premium plan which allows us to "watch on 4 supported devices at a time". I have kids in college, who cares where those streams are and who is watching them.
This sums up the entire thread. As I already said Netflix Marketing gets the gold star they have essentially become Starbucks/Apple.
They can do no wrong and just have to play the how much is too much game. Sadly in 2023 the answer is the sky’s the limit. People need Netflix!
For every sane person saying enough is enough there are hundreds saying charge what you want. I paid for years for a family plan with no family.
I woke up.
If you use a single stream and never use the other three you are just donating money.
It’s like if Starbucks just started charging everyone for Trenta sized drinks. You only want a Tall but you’re paying for a Trenta every time. People here are saying Netflix is so kind giving 4 streams on the 4K plan. No you’re paying for all four streams. If you can’t/don’t use them it’s just money in their pockets.
Netflix is like Costco for single people. You might think you’re getting a deal but if you can’t consume the product by yourself are you really saving? Yes families are cheering because they need the excess product but single people are sitting there going I’ll never consume this so I’m wasting money. Meanwhile people are saying not our problem my family loves it! Fun part is with Netflix is the only option you want 4K pay for the Costco/Trenta size or go without. You can’t buy the product elsewhere in a single 4K stream.
I’m going without. Likely I’ll never have it again because the majority don’t care.
The whole concept of sharing was basically I can’t eat 4 dozen eggs from Costco but I can buy them split the cost with three friends and save money. Also since this is Netflix imagine eggs can only be purchased at Costco. So it’s either 4 dozen eggs or no eggs at all. Other wild thing is with Netflix you don’t waste the product you buy four dozen and only use one? Great Costco magically takes the three dozen left and sells them to someone else.
Unlike food Netflix is isn’t a necessity no matter how much people act like it. Netflix is taking advantage of ignorance and it works.
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I agree. What sums up the thread is people have different opinions. Those who cancelled, Netflix won’t miss you anyway. And it’s my opinion Netflix will do just fine going into the future.
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People have their own price to value ratio. What you consider overprice another may not.
Doesn't matter. What did they think would happen when they said that?
It most certainly does matter. The TOS is binding and a tweet is not.
What happened is exactly what he wanted to happen, their service "grew", now they have decided to enforce the TOS that always existed, though it does again appear to have been tweaked from people living in a household to people viewing on devices inside a household.
Regardless, it is within their rights to enforce TOS for their service/content.
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Turns out the people who complained the most were the ones that didn't pay for it.
I’ve been pretty vocal and paid for years which I am no longer doing. I don’t plan to stop until they have a single stream 4K plan or I get bored. 😊
You're right. It's binding. So why did it not matter to them until now? Why didn't they enforce TOS from the beginning? That's the thing. So far in these countless pages of comments, no one seems to be able to answer "why now". TOS violations didn't seem to bother Netflix too much in 2017. Why now? If it's a TOS violation now, it was a TOS violation back in 2017 when they posted that tweet.
If the TOS has always existed, then it should have been treated as such by Netflix. "Binding" goes both ways. We're expected to adhere to the TOS, the company is expected to uphold them. At all times. Not just when it's convenient to their business model. All the goodie two shoes talking about TOS violations...seem to be ignoring the part where Netflix basically encouraged such a violation to their own terms.
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Well - the people they'd be kicking off are the people not on the account so.... I really don't think you'll see a major dive. It will be more the "my kid is at college" people which are the few vs. the "I'll see your Disney Plus password for my Nextflix password" people (which may be me).
A few thoughts:
- in 2017 it wasn’t really an issue
- in 2017 Netflix couldn’t predict how bad password sharing would be in a few years
- in 2017 they just started to look at solutions to the issue of password sharing and it took Netflix 5 years to develop countermeasures
When you sign up you agree to the tos. It doesn’t mean Netflix is under an obligation to enforce it.
That is obviously not true and it didn’t abridge their right in 2023.
That’s not factual else Netflix would have been sued for enforcing their tos in 2023.
Personally I agree with you. I don’t get their thinking, however it’s not a sticking point for me.
They're really not.
They didn't. They embarked on a content investment strategy to build a catalogue of original content due to the rise of other streaming services pulling back their content from Netflix to their own. Most companies do these things - look at Amazon - they never turned a profit on online shopping from day 1 until a few years back.
Not one delivery service has done anything but bleed money (DoorDash, InstaCart, Uber, etc.) - trillions of dollars lost on these services running solely on investment dollars. It's all a gamble that either pays off at a point or doesn't.
My meal box kit includes 4 servings per meal - I live alone. I'm paying for 4 servings. Should I expect them to ship one to my mom, one to my sister, and one to you? Yeah - no. It's 4 streams in your home for when you have kids wanting to watching something different than you and your spouse wants to watch her own show.
Don't get me wrong - I don't totally agree with you - but they have NEVER advertised it per your interpretation. YouTubeTV on the other hand allows me to share my account with up to two people outside my direct house - but they also clearly cite they need to also be in the same local broadcast area. If Netflix ever said "4 streams to share with anyone you feel like" I'd agree - but what you bought and have is exactly what they told you you were buying - 4 concurrent streams in the same household.
It always sucks when you find a way to milk the system and the close the loop hole - but you were milking a loop hole so chill.
Terrible example. They won't ship it. But YOU could. The company already got their money for your meal kit. What you do it with it from that point on...is up to you.
And by the way, where tf do you get this idea that I am "milking a loop hole"? There's a saying about making assumptions 🙄 I haven't been a Netflix user for a while now. I was the payer for a Netflix account that was used by me...and me only. And then the realization hit that I was spending quite a bit of money for a service that I spent more time scrolling through than actually WATCHING. End result...cancelled. If you were hoping for a "gotcha" moment, sorry to disappoint.
Actually, my bill is WAY cheaper with T-Mobile than AT&T. I pay $122 a month for 4 lines, an Apple Watch, Netflix, and Apple TV plus. $122 and if I take away Netflix and Apple TV Plus, my bill would be under $102 a month (if I was able to). My at&t bill was $180 a month, and didn’t include anything extra. And, my phone works a lot better too where I go. I wouldn’t say I have Netflix for free, but it’s include.
not sure how it’s a higher price…
Ease up on the attitude, there, buddy. I didn't say I'm entitled to anything. I'm just pointing out that Netflix didn't have a problem with that until recently and then changed the rules on everyone. I'm fine with my child having to pay for their own account but if a company lets customers share their account with others outside their house and then changes the rules, that's not on me, and I'm perfectly within my rights to criticize that and reassess whether I want to continue doing business with them.
My question for you: why are you so outraged by people doing that? That's how any market works. If the cost is justifiable, I buy. If not, I don't. Netflix changed their rules so people are reconsidering what they want to do. I'm puzzled by people who want to rush to defend Netflix and even more so by people like you who want to insult people criticizing Netflix.
I know from personal experience that Netflix tolerated people not living in the primary location using their service. What's annoying here is that they're behaving as if they never did.
this is like being on repeat. Total re run of the early
you do realize movie rentals are still a thing right lol
Netflix cares. What you are doing is theft, pure and simple.
I find many shows very worthwhile. I'm happy to pay Netflix for top tier.
They did. They threw money at garbage content that anyone with a brain could have told them wouldn’t be worth their investment. They also funded a bunch of decent projects that could have been really big only to cut them off before they had a chance to grow a fanbase. The strategy of investing in their own content was good, the way they did it was wasteful.
But it’s not theft when those very same college kids are watching it while they’re home from school, right? If that’s the case, you’re so full of it with this “theft” crap.
If it’s not theft for those kids to use Netflix while at home, then it’s not theft for those VERY SAME kids to use it somewhere else. It’s still the same person, no matter where they are. By your logic, that makes it theft for a paying subscriber to use their own account anywhere outside their house. No more using Netflix during lunch at work, right? No more using it while staying in a hotel! That would be theft, by the way you’re considering it.
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