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Just curious... how much is your cable TV subscription?

And try to separate the TV channels from the internet service if you have a cable modem.

Most cable companies offer a discount if you bundle TV channels with internet. So I'm always wondering what the actual cost of the TV service is in different markets.

And also factor in the cost of renting DVR boxes and whatnot.

It's often said that "cable is cheaper than streaming" but there are additional costs with cable TV.

Then there's the age-old argument "with cable I'm paying for hundreds of channels I don't want? And it has commercials?!?!?"

So you have that to deal with too...

😋

My total comes around $105/mo. It includes a mobile line (free for 12 months), internet, home phone, and 150 channels out of which I only watch 3 of them.

I don’t pay anything for DVR, there is an option for “virtual”… if you want the actual device I think it is an extra $10. I also don’t pay for router because of the whole package, but if you only get internet (no phone or TV) the router is an extra $7.
 
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I'll play.

To watch what? Scripted has been heavily reduced, there is not even a Fall season. writers strike just ended but the actors are no where done. Most cable networks (USA/TBS/TNT etc,) no longer even have scripted programming at all. So what are they going back for exactly and why are they spending $80+ for it instead of just subbing to a few streamers?

I‘m going back to cable for the 24-hour marathons of Ridiculousness, Law and Order: SVU, and The Office. /s
 
I‘m going back to cable for the 24-hour marathons of Ridiculousness, Law and Order: SVU, and The Office. /s

Haha true.

There are 200 channels and 24 hours in a day... so most of the cable TV schedule is reruns and filler.

New shows are aired in "Prime Time" between the hours of 8pm and 11pm. There is also some news and sports sprinkled around the schedule. And of course a few hours of daily talk shows too.

But there's obviously a lot of junk needed to fill the 4,800 hours of programming on cable... every day.

All for the low low price of $75/month. With commercials!!!

Cable for the win (?)

:p
 
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I buy a month of netflix every couple of years and catch up on the shows I want to watch. Just subscribe and immediately cancel. Did the ad supported tier this time. There aren't a ton of them. I'm sure that will change.
 
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Much simpler: Subscriptions will only be yearly.
I'm not so sure. I'm told that Hulu ad-free and Netflix don't do annual plans (albeit, with a 16.7% discount) because the data on what people binge prior to cancelling is very valuable to them.

It's funny how everybody up here is like "UNSUBSCRIBING! NETFLIX HAS GONE TOO FAR!" yet when they come home, they quickly tune into Too hot too handle.
I'm guessing that everyone here who says they'll cancel, will. However, we (along with other message boards like this) appear to be a vocal minority.
 
Netflix slowly pricing itself out. Unless the gaming aspect turns out to be spectacular
In any case the majority of movies and shows are getting old
New content is at a standstill because of the writers strike
Time will tell if this bold move benefits Netflix or hurts it!
 
They will continue to raise prices...the new generation is totally in favor of subscriptions, they like to see how every month hundreds of dollars disappear from their bank account for Spotify, Netflix, HBO, etc etc. You don't own movies, you don't own music, you just rent it. If you stop paying, you have nothing, NOTHING! Rent a car, rent a place to live, everything is on rent. Own nothing and be happy! Soon people would start renting electronics, cloths, everything. Subscribe to that!
TBF, the new generations is hard pressed to afford larger houses, so too much physical media will just clutter up their homes. Myself, the vast majority of streaming content, I just watch once, and have no desire to rewatch again. I can usually catch clips I'd like to see again on YouTube. I'm not a millennial, but I've had to move around for work, and it's just been liberating not having to worry about moving boxes upon boxes, or book shelves upon shelves of DVDs and BDs. There's no point in owning all of that when it just sits there, not being actively used, even if once a month.

I still have CDs, but alas, my last car did away with the CD player. I do have ways to access them though (like an iPod Touch Classic, YouTube Music, or ripping it and putting it on my phone), but still bummed out by the loss of that

Also, I would encourage people to rotate ss (streaming services). I myself pay no more than $10 to $20 month, and that's still ad-free. There's no point in having 2 to 7 of them at the same time when time is the bottleneck anyways. Any major ss will have enough content for one month to the next.
 
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TBF, the new generations is hard pressed to afford larger houses, so too much physical media will just clutter up their homes. Myself, the vast majority of streaming content, I just watch once, and have no desire to rewatch again. I can usually catch clips I'd like to see again on YouTube. I'm not a millennial, but I've had to move around for work, and it's just been liberating not having to worry about moving boxes upon boxes, or book shelves upon shelves of DVDs and BDs. There's no point in owning all of that when it just sits there, not being actively used, even if once a month.

I still have CDs, but alas, my last car did away with the CD player. I do have ways to access them though (like an iPod Touch Classic, YouTube Music, or ripping it and putting it on my phone), but still bummed out by the loss of that

Also, I would encourage people to rotate ss (streaming services). I myself pay no more than $10 to $20 month, and that's still ad-free. There's no point in having 2 to 7 of them at the same time when time is the bottleneck anyways. Any major ss will have enough content for one month to the next.
Agree with you.
Physical media is gone for good and there are a lot of pros.
The point here is that this subscription model is pushing people to a life model where they do not actually own anything, and that's is bothering me a lot. If you stop paying your subscriptions, and despite having paid a lot of money for a very long time in order to have access, you are left with nothing. And it is not all about entertainment content, the subscription model has also extended to basic commodities or electronics as doorbells, alarm systems, storage, vehicles, etc. There are even companies that rent you iPhones and Mac. So you don't have any property, you just have expenses, which is okey as long as you have income. Many people have already decided that they will never buy a home, but will rent for the rest of the their life. This will have some profound implications for the next generations.
 
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I buy a month of netflix every couple of years and catch up on the shows I want to watch. Just subscribe and immediately cancel. Did the ad supported tier this time. There aren't a ton of them. I'm sure that will change.


i keep thinking like that, and it makes sense. alas my netflix is tied up with two friends piggy backing onto it so i cant cut it off. Apple and Amazon are cheap enough that it makes sense to pay them yearly but netflix is a lot of cash these days.
 
Looks like cable all over again… ads in our tv, just kind of wireless. All streaming want is to switch to ad based tiers because there is bigger profit. F-you!. Torrents will be back from the dead!
Torrents are already back from the dead, have been for a long time. Streamers want to have their cake and eat it. A cake with higher premiums as the filling and ads on top as the icing as the day will come that ads are part of every plan. Maybe “limited” ads on the highest tier.
 
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I mean, that's wonderful and all, but cable TV does not have shows that that are exclusive on Netflix, Disney, Hulu, Peacock etc. while those streamers (in some mix) will generally have all of what cable has to offer scripted wise.

So cool - you now pay more for cable TV and you get to enjoy less programs WITH commercials.

I don't think you understand why I watch Adult Swim. Adult Swim isn't just about the programs. Their programs are legendary but that's just part of the appeal. The entire night's broadcast IS the program. The shows selected on the schedule, the ads, and the bumps are all part of the experience. When you watch Adult Swim, you're in it for the long haul. A curated night of nonstop entertainment with twists you didn't expect.

That last bit is the big part, the bumps. Adult Swim is legendary for their bumps, to the point they inspired others.


Another example about how the entire night's broadcast is the program, are their legendary April Fools broadcasts (which they upload on Youtube the following day.) They've had numerous April Fools bits over the years. Sometimes they air pilot episodes of WIP shows during April Fools, or they do gags where they edit the programming in hilarious ways.


For many of us, Adult Swim isn't just a channel, it's a lifestyle. So many artists got their start on Adult Swim, like the late legend MF Doom. Adult Swim influenced many parts of our pop culture, like saving Futurama and Family Guy when Fox didn't want to give them a chance, or causing McDonalds to bring the Mulan szechuan sauce back.
 
Haha true.

There are 200 channels and 24 hours in a day... so most of the cable TV schedule is reruns and filler.

New shows are aired in "Prime Time" between the hours of 8pm and 11pm. There is also some news and sports sprinkled around the schedule. And of course a few hours of daily talk shows too.

But there's obviously a lot of junk needed to fill the 4,800 hours of programming on cable... every day.

All for the low low price of $75/month. With commercials!!!

Cable for the win (?)

:p

And if users want reruns, there are plenty of free streaming channels absolutely stuffed to the gills with older shows.
 
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I mean everyone gets faux angry for like a week and then moves on and keeps paying for it. Sadly, more people remain subscribed than those that will leave. Not to mention new subscribers too.
 
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Glad I’m on a family members plan. Thanks, sis!

It’s not just cutting the cord. It’s cutting monthly extortion fees. I’m sure Netflix saw a loss in subscribers to warrant the addition of an Ad subsidized plan.

Plenty of other FAST streaming services and OTA ATSC 1.0 channels. Too bad broadcasters are encrypting ATSC 3.0 channels.
 


Netflix today said that it is increasing the cost of some of its subscription plans in the United States, the UK, and France. Prices will be going up for the Basic and Premium plans in those three countries.

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In the United States, the price of the Basic plan will increase from $9.99 to $11.99 per month, while the price of the Premium plan will increase from $19.99 to $22.99 per month. The ad-supported tier price will remain the same at $6.99 per month, as will the $15.49/month Standard plan.

Netflix no longer offers the Basic plan to new subscribers in the United States, but prices will presumably increase for existing subscribers.

The Premium Netflix plan is the only plan that provides access to 4K video streaming and spatial audio. The $15.49 Standard plan and the ad-supported plan are limited to 1080p.

Netflix announced the price hikes in its earnings call for the third quarter of 2023 [PDF], which took place today. Netflix said that it added 8.8 million new subscribers, up from 2.4 million new subscribers in the year-ago quarter. Revenue came in at $8.54 billion, up from $7.9 billion last year.

Subscriber growth comes after Netflix began cracking down on password sharing between households. Netflix says that cancel reaction to the password sharing limitation "continues to be low," exceeding its expectations.

Article Link: Netflix Raising U.S. Prices Yet Again, Premium Plan Now Costs $23/Month



Netflix today said that it is increasing the cost of some of its subscription plans in the United States, the UK, and France. Prices will be going up for the Basic and Premium plans in those three countries.

Netflix-Smaller-3.jpg

In the United States, the price of the Basic plan will increase from $9.99 to $11.99 per month, while the price of the Premium plan will increase from $19.99 to $22.99 per month. The ad-supported tier price will remain the same at $6.99 per month, as will the $15.49/month Standard plan.

Netflix no longer offers the Basic plan to new subscribers in the United States, but prices will presumably increase for existing subscribers.

The Premium Netflix plan is the only plan that provides access to 4K video streaming and spatial audio. The $15.49 Standard plan and the ad-supported plan are limited to 1080p.

Netflix announced the price hikes in its earnings call for the third quarter of 2023 [PDF], which took place today. Netflix said that it added 8.8 million new subscribers, up from 2.4 million new subscribers in the year-ago quarter. Revenue came in at $8.54 billion, up from $7.9 billion last year.

Subscriber growth comes after Netflix began cracking down on password sharing between households. Netflix says that cancel reaction to the password sharing limitation "continues to be low," exceeding its expectations.

Article Link: Netflix Raising U.S. Prices Yet Again, Premium Plan Now Costs $23/Month
The problem with Netflix, Disney and virtually every other subscription service is that they do not add or create enough new or never watched content to justify keeping the subscription indefinitely. We subscribe, watch, cancel, wait and subscribe when there's something new. Jacking up your prices just means I wait longer to resubscribe to justify the cost. They have all got to be losing money. It's not sustainable, I see mergers and buyouts in the future.
 
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Hopefully people will learn this simple, basic, truth:

10 Find a streaming service with content you value
20 Subscribe
30 Consume
40 Cancel subscription
50 Goto 10

There is no reason, other than pure convenience and/or stupidity, to subscribe to them all at once.

This.

Right now I get Netflix via my phone plan so the price increase isn’t all that bad for me.
 
Hopefully people will learn this simple, basic, truth:

10 Find a streaming service with content you value
20 Subscribe
30 Consume
40 Cancel subscription
50 Goto 10

There is no reason, other than pure convenience and/or stupidity, to subscribe to them all at once.
I don't even subscribe to any of them. It's amazing how you realize that you don't need anything on TV over the last three years when you stop paying for any services. I don't even have TV through Xfinity. They offered me free Peacock but I'm not interested.
 
I don't even subscribe to any of them. It's amazing how you realize that you don't need anything on TV over the last three years when you stop paying for any services. I don't even have TV through Xfinity. They offered me free Peacock but I'm not interested.
We’ve got most of them. Gold cable subscription: Apple TV+, max (through cable), showtime (through cable), discovery, peacock, Hulu, Netflix, prime, Izzy, SiriusXM, apple Music.
 
Everyone cheered on the writers and actors attempt to get more money. Here are the results!
Really depressing how many here claim that this isn't true… but it 100% is. Input costs jumped massively with this union deal and Netflix, as a public company, is doing what every other company on earth would do. It's the same thing if Apple's screen manufacturing partners suddenly started charging 400% more due to a materials shortage or similar. Apple would pass those costs along to us. Always. Without hesitation. They will not cut Tim Cook's salary, or any of the other so-called "greedy" executives.
 
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the breadth of enjoyable content is unparalleled
I agree and I just luv the Soth Korean zombie, sci-fi and action stuff.
found AppleTV+ content to be boring and extremely slow paced
Yep, most of it is not watchable for me except the sci-fi stuff.
It probably makes sense to a lot of folks to dust off the old uTorrent and sail into the Pirate Bay.
dust free 😆
You honestly support this?
You know they don't expect to get this and it's just a starting point for the talks. Geez.
I was just thinking of upgrading to the premium plan to get 4K
TV's are capable of upgrading the signal to 4K and your tv should be able to do it.
 
I don't think you understand why I watch Adult Swim. Adult Swim isn't just about the programs. Their programs are legendary but that's just part of the appeal. The entire night's broadcast IS the program. The shows selected on the schedule, the ads, and the bumps are all part of the experience. When you watch Adult Swim, you're in it for the long haul. A curated night of nonstop entertainment with twists you didn't expect.

That last bit is the big part, the bumps. Adult Swim is legendary for their bumps, to the point they inspired others.


Another example about how the entire night's broadcast is the program, are their legendary April Fools broadcasts (which they upload on Youtube the following day.) They've had numerous April Fools bits over the years. Sometimes they air pilot episodes of WIP shows during April Fools, or they do gags where they edit the programming in hilarious ways.


For many of us, Adult Swim isn't just a channel, it's a lifestyle. So many artists got their start on Adult Swim, like the late legend MF Doom. Adult Swim influenced many parts of our pop culture, like saving Futurama and Family Guy when Fox didn't want to give them a chance, or causing McDonalds to bring the Mulan szechuan sauce back.
I see. You are just really into slightly edgy children's cartoons.
 
Really depressing how many here claim that this isn't true… but it 100% is. Input costs jumped massively with this union deal and Netflix, as a public company, is doing what every other company on earth would do. It's the same thing if Apple's screen manufacturing partners suddenly started charging 400% more due to a materials shortage or similar. Apple would pass those costs along to us. Always. Without hesitation. They will not cut Tim Cook's salary, or any of the other so-called "greedy" executives.
I've never understood why people think corporations will just happily eat these costs. Aside from the Writes/SAG strike,. COVID make shows 50%+ more expensive to produce due to protocols so clearly they will need to get that money back somehow.
 
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