People are paying for 4k unless Netflix reduces their bill it’s unfair to customers.
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Netflix Reduces Streaming Video Quality in Europe to Lower Data Usage and Ease Strain on Broadband Networks
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That was when everyone had TVs that were a maximum of 32inches. 720p did look on on a screen like that and still would. But people now have 55inch TVs and even 75inch TVs are well under £1k and on TVs that big 720p will look awful.
youll get 25% off the extra $2 you spend each month on 4k
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is it really so hard to fathom that everything has some limit, and in this case it is being stretched past that limit due to unforeseeable once in a lifetime circumstances?
Only reason Netflix is quick to jump on this since they're profiting. In reality, as far as streaming video marketshare goes Netflix isn't #1. It's more effective to promote efficient codecs like VP9, HEVC and upcoming AV1 over inefficient AVC codec. Force Apple to enable VP9 codec support since YouTube is one of the significant streaming traffic and the platform their video ads use.
Let’s be serious...most people only need 3 minutes of porn and then they “never need to watch it anymore, ever.”
Wrong. All of the restaurants, retailers, and other businesses here where I like have laid off at least 3/4 or the staff. The mall is locked up tight. All restaurants are take out only and not doing very much business at all. Today there were no cars in front of 8 or 9 restaurants I passed at lunchtime. So there are a lot of people setting at home with nothing to do except use the internet.
Typical overreaction of politicians.
It's the pink elephant repellant powder syndrome: Politicians always win if they act, even it if it's utterly unneeded.
- if they spread the pink elephant powder and there are no pink elephants seen after that: "see it worked".
- if they spread the pink elephant powder and there would still be any pink elephants seen after that: "see i was right, just need more of that powder"
The right approach would be for ISPs that see trouble on their networks due to too much streaming from Netflix to get a deal with Netflix to reduce bandwidth (or install a Netflix server on their network to reduce interconnect bandwidth use (which hurts ISPs much more than their own network that they build themselves)
Anyway: Netflix streaming won't be a huge problem at any ISP. Really: the #1 problematic traffic aside of attacks are torrents, not legitimate streaming. It's easy to saturate huge bandwidth connections using a torrent, Netflix and any other streaming service only download what you use as you use it (with a little buffering) so a full quality 4K stream on Netflix is nothing compared to a 2160p torrent that contains a whole Blu-ray disk and downloads in a fraction of the time needed to watch it. Peaks hurt much more ...
It's the pink elephant repellant powder syndrome: Politicians always win if they act, even it if it's utterly unneeded.
- if they spread the pink elephant powder and there are no pink elephants seen after that: "see it worked".
- if they spread the pink elephant powder and there would still be any pink elephants seen after that: "see i was right, just need more of that powder"
The right approach would be for ISPs that see trouble on their networks due to too much streaming from Netflix to get a deal with Netflix to reduce bandwidth (or install a Netflix server on their network to reduce interconnect bandwidth use (which hurts ISPs much more than their own network that they build themselves)
Anyway: Netflix streaming won't be a huge problem at any ISP. Really: the #1 problematic traffic aside of attacks are torrents, not legitimate streaming. It's easy to saturate huge bandwidth connections using a torrent, Netflix and any other streaming service only download what you use as you use it (with a little buffering) so a full quality 4K stream on Netflix is nothing compared to a 2160p torrent that contains a whole Blu-ray disk and downloads in a fraction of the time needed to watch it. Peaks hurt much more ...
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You completely misunderstood because you didn't follow the thread. This is an emergency situation, so Netflix viewer patterns aren't representative of their long-term behavior, and does not reflect on Netflix's future business model. That's what I said. When people go back to work and school, viewing will necessarily decline.
https://www.vulture.com/2020/03/stream-an-indie-and-support-your-local-movie-theater-too.html
No, it's not netflix. But if the socially responsible alternative to patronizing your local arthouse is to stream the movie-- then surely it's not socially responsible to cut off that option.
I think Netflix has a local server at my ISP. It's possible that Amazon does too. I doubt Kino Lorber does, so streaming that indie flick could eat into Verizon's backbone... Ah well.
Props to FIOS for having a network architecture that doesn't crash like cable?
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No, it's not netflix. But if the socially responsible alternative to patronizing your local arthouse is to stream the movie-- then surely it's not socially responsible to cut off that option.
I think Netflix has a local server at my ISP. It's possible that Amazon does too. I doubt Kino Lorber does, so streaming that indie flick could eat into Verizon's backbone... Ah well.
Props to FIOS for having a network architecture that doesn't crash like cable?
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In eighteen months.
Neither Netflix or my ISP sent me any notification about this. If either impose limits, I will definitely ask for refunds.
This makes no sense to me. The network doesn't break at weekends when most people are at home.......
wow, all that happening in the world and that’s your worry?
Netflix: Okay EU, we are such a responsible EU citizen that we are now reducing all your resolution to 640 x 480. Please keep paying us the 4K price. Welcome to socialism. /s
Everybody stay safe and please wear a mask. A mask definitely has use despite your government's propaganda trying to tell you that wearing masks has no use. Please do not discriminate on people wearing masks, especially Asians who wear masks. It's happening every day in the UK.
Everybody stay safe and please wear a mask. A mask definitely has use despite your government's propaganda trying to tell you that wearing masks has no use. Please do not discriminate on people wearing masks, especially Asians who wear masks. It's happening every day in the UK.
Force YouTube to use a proper codec for iOS, or does the $9b google pays only go so far.
Europeans are always bragging about how great their internet is compared to the US. Guess not.
MR did a great job with the dark theme, and logos like this will look better with a transparent background.
My 200 Mbps Comcast plan is hovering at about 40 Mbps, I could use this in my neighborhood.
eta: and I already have our Netflix set to SD streaming, because, Comcast has that pesky data cap. I’d lower Disney+ but can’t find a way.
eta: and I already have our Netflix set to SD streaming, because, Comcast has that pesky data cap. I’d lower Disney+ but can’t find a way.
It's amazing how people are still thinking about themselves even in this situation. I guess a crisis will show the true colors of people. Because who cares about the network infrastructure, I want my netflix to be in 4K!
When the content matches the native resolution of the panel or CRT it looks good.
People who care about network infrastructure care about the numbers. No numbers are offered up-- instead we are told that we should adopt the austere virtues and make a sacrifice to atone for our avarice.