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People who care about network infrastructure care about the numbers. No numbers are offered up-- instead we are told that we should adopt the austere virtues and make a sacrifice to atone for our avarice.
Do you really care about the numbers? You can check the statistics of COVID-19 on WHO website in details.

Or do you simply feel entitled to get 4K on your netflix?
Let's be real.
 
It really makes you appreciate the beauty of buying a 4k Ultra physical disc. By the way, the quality of 4K on disc is far superior to what they claim is 4K in streaming (compressed, squished, squashed and lossy) - especially the colours. Poor Euro streamers - they will be getting probably a quarter the bandwidth of Bluray, if that.
 
People who care about network infrastructure care about the numbers. No numbers are offered up-- instead we are told that we should adopt the austere virtues and make a sacrifice to atone for our avarice.
I agree, but when you put it that way, I almost don't.
 
Do you really care about the numbers? You can check the statistics of COVID-19 on WHO website in details.

Or do you simply feel entitled to get 4K on your netflix?
Let's be real.

No, not those numbers. You're obviously trying to pile on the guilt. It won't work.

The numbers that actually matter relate to network capacity, traffic, latency, and so on. Should be easy enough to publish a persuasive argument based on those sort of statistics. If they are made public.
 
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It's possible that the residential networks aren't built for the demands of telework and the congestion issues won't be solved until citrix et al rewrite their software.
 
I just locked into Netflix to see what they are doing exactly. But there are no information on Netflix Germany. And of course there was no notification by email. Such an information policy is extremely annoying and just disappointing.
However, I think that my HD subscription is not affected. But time will tell.
 
US 4G LTE penetration is far better than that in Europe as well. Our major carriers have full LTE coverage, and our number 1 carrier is shutting down their non-LTE networks.

You realize that Europe isn't a country right?
What you are saying is correct for some countries, while for example we in the Nordic countries are way ahead of US.

It's insane that Netflix doesn't apply this by country. We don't have any bandwidth issues in Sweden.
 
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You realize that Europe isn't a country right?
What you are saying is correct for some countries, while for example we in the Nordic countries are way ahead of US.

And the Nordic countries are smaller than California. Europe, or rather the European Single Market, wants to be the US because they can see the economic efficiency, but they can't do so for political reasons.

For example, EU forces convoluted free roaming limits because in the US we don't pay for nationwide roaming or for long distance calling across the entire country. People move all over the country and never change their cell phone number or plan, one little thing that aids mobility and therefore promotes equal economic development.

Another example is that our media companies negotiate one nation-wide contract, whereas the EU is trying to force that with the Digital Single Market. There's no screwing around with different country's stores.
 
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You need a new map. California is approx 424,000 square km. The Nordic region is 3,426,000 square km...

You need to count how many people live in each. You also need to count GDP (along with other measures of wealth like GDP per capita, and median household incomes).

A perfect example of how people don't realize the size of the US compared to small European countries, both economically and by population.
 
just wondering what is propaganda and what is reality. increased number of parallel streams puts a lot of stress to the infrastructure of netflix. even with their massive distributed content sources.
their streaming is adaptive anyway, so once there's not enough bw, it will fall back to 1080p and then to SD.
there's no big difference how people stream stuff in the evening - sure there will be more people - as peak usage was more or less after work hours.
but in the freedom of their homes quite some employees will do stuff that they normally wouldn't while they're in the office :)
 
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* sees headline *

* 138 comments *

No need to have a look in the comments, I'm sure its 138 people saying how its the only responsible thing to do under the circumstances.

I'll have a wee look anyway, it will restore my faith in people.

* looks *

Oh......
 
"Netflix has complied with a request from the European Union to lower its streaming video quality in Europe to ease network strain from the millions of people working from home."

Ummmm... shouldn't they be working... they're not getting paid to Netflix and chill.
 
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they better not do that here or I shouldn't have to pay for the 4k plan
Self centered, me-me-me. How old are you?

I'd suggest Netflix should charge you twice for 4k plan and send you 360p contents. So that people who need to work from home to stay safe can safely work from home.

If they do it here, I'll stream on every device I have just to make up for it.
In addition, I suggest the ISPs should ban every bandwidth hog forever.
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You need a new map. California is approx 424,000 square km. The Nordic region is 3,426,000 square km...
I'd like to know what you count as "Nordic region".
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That was when everyone had TVs that were a maximum of 32inches. 720p did look on on a screen like that and still would. But people now have 55inch TVs and even 75inch TVs are well under £1k and on TVs that big 720p will look awful.
Live with it. Or do you think you need to prepare for the time when you sit at home _with no job_ when your boss fired you because working from home didn't work?
 
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This is a joke, people who work from home I am guessing were using internet at work too. My only guess is that remote learning is going to take a hit on the network since every student will be streaming, but that doesn't make sense either because ISPs already have high speed and unlimited/high cap. plans. Students were probably streaming Netflix or Youtube if they were not streaming lessons.

This is not fair for people who already pay the bill for a higher speed internet.
 
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I haven't seen one person in here mentioning the difference between resolution and bitrate. They're not changing the effing resolution, they'll just tweak the bitrate a bit. You'll get your damn 4K with a lower bitrate and you'll have to suck it up!
Having worked in that area, I can tell you that if you reduce the bitrate, 1080p looks better than 4K at some point. That point is reached when you don't have the bits for the content of the additional pixels. So in 1080p your bit stream describes a pixel, in 4K it has to describe that pixel then adds "and three pixels around it are just the same". That takes bits which the 1080p encoder can use to improve the single pixel.
 
Not too long ago, the best quality movie you could rent or buy was on DVD and those are 720P. Nobody complained back then...

A not too long time ago mobile phones like the one on the photo were the norm. Not now. Times do change. So does technology and people's expectations. Who wants to watch a crapy SD quality while being quarantined for a long period of time.
 

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Too bad the social attitudes do not change for better.


Perhaps reading a book or two would would help.

Perhaps what helps you or what entertains you does not, everyone else? Reading a book and watching a movie or documentary are 2 completely different experiences.
 
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