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Anecdotally, I have heard here and elsewhere, that people are doing temporary subscriptions and leaving. I've had my account for about 5 years. At best I would only keep it 2 months at a time and several months off. How is that financially better for Netflix?

Does anyone just leave their subscription sitting active when there's nothing to watch? That seems like a total waste of money.

I cycle through services. Two months on Netflix, then I've got through all the interesting content I've missed since last time. So I'll subscribe to Disney+ for a couple of months and catch up there. Then Apple TV+ for a couple of months, and watch whatever looks interesting. Then maybe watch the content available on free-to-air catch-up TV services for a few months (they're pretty good here in Australia).

It seems to be throwing money away to have more than one subscription active at one time. You only have one set of eyes, and the content that's appearing on another service can always wait for a few months. It's not going anywhere.
 
Stopped my Netflix subscription two months ago. Just using AppleTV+ I enjoy much more the content there, always in 4K too. I have very little free time so AppleTV+ is enough.
 
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Like in all businesses: it is extremely complicated to monetise products & services that have been given away for free for a prolonged period.
Whether you want to start charging gradually or big bang, the pivotal nugget is that you first start explicitly reminding people that they are getting stuff for free and that free does represent a value. Ultimately you can pretty much convince everybody that items of value have an associate cost and thus price.
 
Does anyone just leave their subscription sitting active when there's nothing to watch? That seems like a total waste of money.

I cycle through services. Two months on Netflix, then I've got through all the interesting content I've missed since last time. So I'll subscribe to Disney+ for a couple of months and catch up there. Then Apple TV+ for a couple of months, and watch whatever looks interesting. Then maybe watch the content available on free-to-air catch-up TV services for a few months (they're pretty good here in Australia).

It seems to be throwing money away to have more than one subscription active at one time. You only have one set of eyes, and the content that's appearing on another service can always wait for a few months. It's not going anywhere.
In Australia also. I only keep it because I share it with my son. Netflix, AppleTV+, Disney+, Amazon Prime (for the Amazon savings). But yeah, if they change the Netflix sharing dramatically, I’ll definitely do what you're doing.
 
To get 4K for reasonable price I share account with 3 friends in 2 towns. Everybody has its own sub-account there (the one you choose on Log Screen) and I see no problems here. If Netflix will ask for 3$ more per person, each of us will pay to one person this missing funds.

So when judging don’t forget Netflix own words:

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It never ceases to amaze me the number of people that are ok with stealing as long as it is called sharing or if the target is "the corporations man".

Makes me wonder what you all do for a living... would you all be ok with people "sharing" the fruits of your labor just because they think you charge too much?


Netflix is actively incentivising it with their Plans.
If you want 4k, you need to get the one that allows 4 streams.

This makes no sense, especially for someone living alone.
 
That’s really the unknown isn't it? They can model all they like, but we all know modelling is just an educated guess.

And once they lose subscribers, they won’t get them back.
A lot of companies get "running the numbers" wrong all the time. Netflix is in the predicament they are in now because their model broke down when it came up against legitimate competition. The prospect of a password sharing restriction is not the sole reason I left, but combined with mediocre content, abrupt canceling of good shows that I actually watched, and a steadily increasing subscription fee for a more and more restrictive service offering made the decision pretty easy.

It would have been far easier to keep me as a subscriber than it is going to be to convince me to resubscribe. My causal TV viewing time has already been filled by other streaming services and if Netflix wants back in that rotation they are going to have to offer one helluva series or movie franchise for me to even consider it.
 
So, the 4K HDR tier just gets downgraded to one household? It'll be interesting to see how they technically do this.
 
Well we have 4 households sharing the same Netflix account since we all are on the same t-mobile family plan that includes free Netflix.

So I won’t even blink over $3 to continue using it.
My thoughts exactly. I’m wondering what it will look like with T-Mobile’s offerings.
 
I just don't get it how people can be that dumb and pay the full price for Netflix... Here in Switzerland it costs 25.- (Around 27$) for the UHD subscription.
For ages I am paying the Turkish price (around 5$ for UHD subscription) I once set up via VPN as I don't find 25.- justified imho. At least not that I have to pay 25 and others less than 1/6. - for the same service.
 
I recently learned that the average American household pays $273 per month for subscriptions of all kinds. That seems to be a very American thing. That behaviour provides a nice flow of money to some companies who will raise their prices as long as the price increase overcompensates the loss of customers. So if they raise their prices by 20% and it return 10% of all customers quit, they still made an 8% plus from that increase. If a customer quits though, he loses access to all the content, even if he has already paid hundreds or thousands of dollars.

Other companies of course see how lucrative this constant flow of money is and come with their own subscription models. Owning stuff - like content, a license or even physical goods - might get less and less possible as companies rather want a continuous flow of money instead of a one time fee. That slowly gets ridiculous when it comes to cars. Mercedes offers a new electric car, which can achieve a certain acceleration, but only if you pay $100 per month for it. So it is your car, it could accelerate fast, but it is throttled unless you pay. BMW came up with an even worse subscription model. Each car has a seat heating build in, but you need to buy a subscription to use it. So you own a car with a seat heating, but if you to not pay a monthly fee, your butt stays cold.

There may be subscriptions that are worth it for the customer, but most of them just use the psychological trick of charging a small amount per month to hide the fact that over the years you pay much more for the service than it is worth. Imagine you subscribe to Netflix, Amazon Prime, Apple+, Disney, Hulu, HBO Max and all the others. Over a ten year period that is a huge amount of money. Imagine you took that money and invested it wisely. You would end up with something like $100,000 extra when you retire.
 
Good.

If it is of value to you then you should pay for it, once it is not a good value.... cancel.
That’s what I am saying. I cannot possibly watch 4 screens by myself. But if I want 4K that is what I have to pay for. So if I use those additional screens for others well I am already paying for those screens. Anymore is a cash grab.
 
I just don't get it how people can be that dumb and pay the full price for Netflix... Here in Switzerland it costs 25.- (Around 27$) for the UHD subscription.
For ages I am paying the Turkish price (around 5$ for UHD subscription) I once set up via VPN as I don't find 25.- justified imho. At least not that I have to pay 25 and others less than 1/6. - for the same service.
That’s what I do with YouTube Premium and Tidal HiFi.

Tidal is 19,99 Euro here, 0,79 Cent at the current exchange rate from Argentina. If they really wanted to stop it, they wouldn’t allow foreign credit cards 🤷🏽‍♂️
 
From Netflix: "Only people who live with you may use your account. Watch on 4 different devices at the same time with Premium, 2 with Standard and 1 with Basic or Basic with ads."

I have the Standard plan and if I'm allowed to share one screen with a different person, what does it matter if that person is living under the same roof or somewhere else?! hmm.
Leaving aside whether this change in policy will be successful or a net loss for Netflix, this more than anything else about the policy is what rubs me the wrong way. If you're paying for 3 X, and there is no cost difference to the producer regardless of where each X is used, then the only reason to restrict that is to extract more money from the consumer.

Between work and home, I have lots of services that are billed similarly, none of which have any such restrictions. I can have Adobe Creative Suite authorized on two computers at once; where they are and who's using them don't matter. I pay for two IMAP accounts on one plan; it doesn't matter who uses them, where, or how. I pay for two cell lines on the same plan; it doesn't matter who uses them or where.

Even for all the services under Apple's Family Sharing the TOS makes no mention of where the family members live or use the service. It also doesn't define "family" apart from requiring minors be children or legal wards of the main account.

Netflix, though, if I pay for 2 or 4 simultaneous streams, I can only actually use all of them if the people watching live with me. That doesn't reduce bandwidth for Netflix, it just restricts what the user can do with what they're nominally paying for.
 
That’s what I do with YouTube Premium and Tidal HiFi.

Tidal is 19,99 Euro here, 0,79 Cent at the current exchange rate from Argentina. If they really wanted to stop it, they wouldn’t allow foreign credit cards 🤷🏽‍♂️
Yep. Also they can limit the usage of an abroad IP after x days. In EU I think it is 90days after they could limit it (FairUsePolicy). There are so many ways to stop it, but they won't. Since they don't want to. Netflix knows that if they really stop that loopholes (as well as the end of account sharing) the subscription themselves will drop a lot. They will always try to harden it up to give the dumb people paying the full price the impression like they're doing something against. But I doubt they will completely fix it.
I mean, C'mon. Apple is the most $-greedy company (maybe after Nestle) in this world. Even they allow "store hopping" without any hassle.
 
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Yep. Also they can limit the usage of an abroad IP after x days. In EU I think it is 90days after they could limit it (FairUsePolicy). There are so many ways to stop it, but they won't. Since they don't want to. Netflix knows that if they really stop that loopholes (as well as the end of account sharing) the subscription themselves will drop a lot. They will always try to harden it up to give the dumb people paying the full price the impression like they're doing something against. But I doubt they will completely fix it.
I mean, C'mon. Apple is the most $-greedy company (maybe after Nestle) in this world. Even they allow "store hopping" without any hassle.

Exactly, the only platform that is very strict so far is "Paramount+". They actually have accounts BY country. For instance, I had an account from Mexico but I could not log in from the US or Europe. It simply said "No account with those credentials exists" or something like that. It seems like they literally have separate account data bases for each market. Now I have a german Account (its "free" with SKY) but I cannot log-in with my US DNS settings on my home wifi because of the same restriction. Not only does it suck for people like "us", it is also a horrible user experience when you travel. At a wedding in India? Out of luck, you cannot log in to your Paramount+ account abroad. At least other streaming services let you login, just with the local content being available.
 
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