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Netflix is actively incentivising it with their Plans.
If you want 4k, you need to get the one that allows 4 streams.

This makes no sense, especially for someone living alone.

While I agree that it sucks my answer still is: Then don't use their service. Simple as that. You are not entitled to their content at the price you want it at.

Theft is theft.
 
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I pay the maximum plan because I have family back in my home country who can't pay, I think this will backfire unless they include 4k streaming in their lower tier plans.
Exactly. If they want to pull this then separate the pricing of quality and number of concurrent streams. So if you just want one stream with 4K, you pay less, and if you didn't have modern devices, you could do 4 streams with lower quality for less.
 
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It’s much more complex than simple piracy. It’s more of a marketing issue because most people learn about new programs and get “addicted” while they are using other people’s accounts.
So staring begets stealing is the message here.
Kind of like the old Adobe Photoshop model. Also consider arrangements like my own. I only pay for the more expensive Netflix 4K subscription because my father in law uses our Netflix outside our household. As soon as they disallow that, I will lower our sub (or maybe just cancel altogether).
Then lower your sub. Netflix also saves money because they don’t have to transmit streams in 4K.
We also share our Netflix with others who in turn share their Disney with us. It’s a complex ecosystem and Netflix is disrupting it but their programming is among the weakest of offerings so they only risk disrupting their own revenue negatively.
We don’t have Disney Or paramount or Hulu. But we have Netflix, so there is that.
 
True. Temporary subscriptions are better than no subscriptions. Permanent ones are better than temporary ones. Look, my only point was that modelling isn't always accurate, outside firm or not, although I suspect they have a pretty good in-house group. After all, they are trying to penny-pinch, aren't they?
I took courses in data modeling from Data Robot and modeling can be fairly accurate.

It’s my opinion they hired an outside group the same rational why companies have outside legal counsel.
 
Good idea. One apartment pays full and all the other apartments "share" the account for three bucks each. :)
But then you'd need some schedule people fill out to reserve their slot. Unless they make plans with infinite streams as long as people pay the $3 per
 
It never ceases to amaze me the number of people that are ok with stealing as long as it is called sharing or if the target is "the corporations man".

Makes me wonder what you all do for a living... would you all be ok with people "sharing" the fruits of your labor just because they think you charge too much?
It never ceases to amaze me the people capitalists have brainwashed to thank them for letting you work for them to create a product they can sell back to you for more than they paid you to make it. You think I should care if someone steals from the company I work for like that money was ever going to end up in my pocket? 😂

Sorry to inform you, the rich don’t care about you and aren’t going to pick you to be in their club.
 
It’s much more complex than simple piracy.

No it isn't, stealing is stealing.

We also share our Netflix with others who in turn share their Disney with us. It’s a complex ecosystem and Netflix is disrupting it

What you have is a complex ecosystem of thieves operating across multiple locations stealing from multiple services. Netflix is not disrupting your little ring of thieves, they just want to be paid for their service and content as per the TOS you agreed to.
 
Additionally, a gym membership is for one person; a Netflix subscription can be for multiple people, just as long as they all live at the same address.

It would be more like a gym membership that is for up to 5 people but the people have to live with you and you bring in someone who lives down the street from you. Makes the metaphor a little messier.
One big question. Is it worse to use the correct number of streams shared in different location, or have as many people as would fit come over and watch?
 
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It's now illegal to password share in the UK (Outside of your household) too they wrote it into LAW. So they can enforce it at will over here.

Ok, prove that I shared it? Maybe it was ‘stolen’ and I’m not aware…or, maybe I never shared it, I personally entered it myself, in to some elses device.

I’m sorry, but this is a losing battle, guess who is going to win?
 
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Or use it while you travel. or in a coffee shop (I’m considerate, I tether to my phone if I’m streaming and of course use headphones). Or at the office and at home. Or at multiple homes (for ex my own home, my parent’s home, my sister’s home, my in-laws home, etc when I’m there for family reasons, holidays, etc, which is pretty often). Or… etc
Thank You. What is wrong with these inconsiderate ***** listening through soeakers in public or at work???
 
Well we have 4 households sharing the same Netflix account since we all are on the same t-mobile family plan that includes free Netflix.

So I won’t even blink over $3 to continue using it.
Just to be clear, what they’ve been testing in other countries is a per-user fee for out of home that is roughly 25% of the monthly fee. So in the US on the 4 screen plan, the fee would be $5 per user. Out of home add ons have also been limited to 2 in some of the test markets so one of those homes would have to come off the plan as well.

I’ve said it a hundred times, Netflix should price by stream and leave it at that. If 4 streams needs to be $30, so be it and let the market decide. All this is crackdown if pricing based on the location of the person watching is going to do is frustrate and alienate users, many of whom will unfortunately resort back to piracy.

I think Netflix is vastly overestimating how many free riders will sign up for a paid plan of their own vs just watching other streaming services they have, and underestimating how many people like parents and grandparents will cancel their plans if their kids and family out if the house can’t use it any longer (I know many parents that just maintain Netflix for their college / adult kids to use).
 
Is there a particular reason Netflix needs to charge more?

It's not like their content is better than HBO Max, Disney Plus, Peacock, or Hulu. All of these services offer their content in 4K for half the price.

Not exactly sure who's in charge of deciding the prices/features for each plan, but the people at Netflix need to be replaced. Their entire portfolio of content should be $4.99 a month at the most, and that's with 4K quality streaming. All of the real content is on the platforms I listed above.
Heck some with ads are $5. Could have 4 services for the NF Price
 
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The UK yet again showing the world how not to do things.
Ok, prove that I shared it? Maybe it was ‘stolen’ and I’m not aware…or, maybe I never shared it, I personally entered it myself, in to some elses device.

I’m sorry, but this is a losing battle, guess who is going to win?
The government appears to have updated the offending paragraph to remove any mention of password sharing, this retraction was posted yesterday around 3pm
 
Yes, what seems so odd about this to you? Me and my wife are in the same household, her son is in another, her mother is, yet in another. And I have relatives who sometimes use my login overseas. Not a single issue.
What seems odd is y’all are all over the place, no issues. My Apple TVs, iPads and iPhones all on the same ip addresses get kicked off all the time.
 
Netflix makes the least amount of sense with this, in regards to password sharing. If a friend has the family plan for three devices simultaneously playing, and another friend tries to sign in, it just won't let them, no? The person paying for it isn't cheating Netflix; they're paying for three streams, and cannot go above that.
 
It never ceases to amaze me the people capitalists have brainwashed to thank them for letting you work for them to create a product they can sell back to you for more than they paid you to make it. You think I should care if someone steals from the company I work for like that money was ever going to end up in my pocket? 😂

Sorry to inform you, the rich don’t care about you and aren’t going to pick you to be in their club.
Sorry to inform you, how off-base your post is. As a for profit company Netflix provides a service. You decide if the service is worth the price. Not worth the price don’t buy the service.

Work for Netflix or not, it’s that simple.
 
I wonder if Netflix actually understands how many of their subscribers are teetering on the edge of cancelling.

First time I go to use my account on one of my family's devices and I'm blocked, they're done.
Don’t think they care. They are going to address the issue and in the short run they may lose revenue but in the long run it will be better for the industry.

You’re threatening to cancel Netflix doesn’t affect me in the least. I already told my kids who share my account they will have to pony up. They are fine with it.
 
I wonder if Netflix actually understands how many of their subscribers are teetering on the edge of cancelling.

First time I go to use my account on one of my family's devices and I'm blocked, they're done.
So you’ll give up content you want to see instead of straighting out the billing? I like the cut off your nose to spite your face attitudes here. It’s MR worthy.
 
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