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Nope that is not what I signed up for.

Have you actually read the Netflix terms of service? You should.

As of right now individuals in a household are absolutely allowed to watch 4 screens in different locations. It does not have to be 4 screens in the same physical house.
I stand corrected. Well then whay not say they are operating outside of their scope?
 
I wonder about this too with the IP address thing. We go a lot in our RV and have also set up our account on a beach house rental on many vacations.
I wonder if having the AppleTV I use for the camper and vacations being a "registered device" fixes that.
They will most likely be monitoring how many different ips. Although it doesn’t seem like it, I dint think Netflix wants to lose customers who use the service according to the TOS.
That's not how terms and conditions work. The restrictions might be arbitrary to users but you agreed to it when you signed up for the service and they have every right to enforce their own policy. That said, I am also password sharing and I will be cancelling whenever they implement this new fee.
I also password share with my family and will pay the extra fee. But I also pay for 4 streams so each of us can watch when we want. For the extra few bucks of being nickleled and dimed to death I’ll continue using the service.
 
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It's not simple if members of the family move. Netflix says absolutely nothing about a family who has had an account for decades but decide to move, or send their kids to college or heck even the military. Your post pretty much tells me you live alone and families should never move if they want to keep their accounts.
Isn’t a household considered to be the primary address (the place you live in more than .5 year) of the account holder, no matter what the address on the credit card? And aren’t people in the house considered to be those who live with you more than 1/2 year?
 
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My kids use my Netflix account. Some days they stay with me and some days they stay with their Mom. How is this going to work? I believe it's the same as me watching Netflix on my phone or iPad while I'm traveling. Movie devices are just that... mobile.

Contact Netflix and ask them?
 
Still trying to figure out how they're going to make this work in any real way. I travel a lot and will watch on my laptop when I do. I have a kid in college who watches as well, usually just on their phone. Are they going to make this sort of use a problem? Reason I'm wondering is because Hulu already is a pain in my ass with this usage. I'll sign in on my laptop at home just before I leave. 2 days later, I'm in my hotel halfway across the country and nope, sorry, live TV and half of what I want to watch on Hulu is unavailable until I sign in at home again. It gives me some BS about signing in at home once every 30 days, but no, it cancels it out about every 18 to 36 hours... So now I just kept the basic Hulu ad-free bundled with Disney+ and I think the only reason I kept the Hulu portion of it is so I could watch Only Murders In The Building. I guess it's next on my subscription chopping block. Netflix is probably right after.
 
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I think this different household BS is just that... Most people who share tend to share with family anyway. The way I look at it, the current Netflix TOS allows for use on up to 4 screens. If that's what I pay for, that's what I expect to get, regardless of where those screens might be located. Especially since one or two of them are usually not at home and not because we're sharing the account outside our immediate family, but because we're often not at home for extended periods of time.
 
As many have stated, this is such a weird move. Netflix previously encouraged sharing, with quotes by Reed Hastings.

Netflix charges for concurrent streams. Where those streams take place should technically be irrelevant. This is just them trying to generate revenue in an exceedingly competitive market. Their entire pricing model is weird and feels really growth hackey.

What all this boils down to is the fact that Netflix bit off more than it could chew when it decided to produce its own content.
 
What all this boils down to is the fact that Netflix bit off more than it could chew when it decided to produce its own content.
To be fair, I don't think any of the video streaming services are profitable yet, so it could be a problem with the business model, not just Netflix. But I think a lot can be said about Netflix's decision to prioritise quantity over quality, and their model of releasing all episodes of a new show simultaneously.
 
As many have stated, this is such a weird move. Netflix previously encouraged sharing, with quotes by Reed Hastings.

Netflix charges for concurrent streams. Where those streams take place should technically be irrelevant. This is just them trying to generate revenue in an exceedingly competitive market. Their entire pricing model is weird and feels really growth hackey.

What all this boils down to is the fact that Netflix bit off more than it could chew when it decided to produce its own content.
Yes an no. The issue as I see it is downloads. 100 people could technically, serially use the service to download content. So person 1 signs in downloads content and then disconnects from the internet and watches downloaded contect. Person 2 then does the same thing. And on and on and on.

So whats the answer? Limit downloads if multiple ip or mac addresses are being used by the same account?

Either way Netflix hasn't thought this through and people have become very devious on how to find loopholes and essentially steal from Netflix.
 
There's content on netflix I want to watch. Not interested in Hulu, or disney or paramount (at least for now).
Yes one uses Netflix to look at content you won't find on other sVoD sites. This is a recent example.


Jung_E is written and directed by Train to Busan director Yeon Sang-ho
 
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To be fair, I don't think any of the video streaming services are profitable yet, so it could be a problem with the business model, not just Netflix. But I think a lot can be said about Netflix's decision to prioritise quantity over quality, and their model of releasing all episodes of a new show simultaneously.
Netflix doesn't release all shows in binge, a lot of the asian TV series that they have exclusivity with are weekly or a few weekly like it's broadcast there. They found like other services that consumers like a mixture of live content availability versus the whole TV series released so you can binge only.
 
Yes one uses Netflix to look at content you won't find on other sVoD sites. This is a recent example.


Jung_E is written and directed by Train to Busan director Yeon Sang-ho

The one thing Netflix has gotten right by luck or design is to get the license of foreign shows and movies. My wife like Korean drama shows so almost by default they are the only ones targeting this market. Squid games, that high school Korean zombie show (all of us are dead) and Attorney Woo have all been stand out hits for Netflix.
 
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The one thing Netflix has gotten right by luck or design is to get the license of foreign shows and movies. My wife like Korean drama shows so almost by default they are the only ones targeting this market. Squid games, that high school Korean zombie show (all of us are dead) and Attorney Woo have all been stand out hits for Netflix.
On that note, Extraordinary Attorney Woo, is being renewed for a second season, and is expected to arrive sometime in 2024!
Should note all the foreign anime on Netflix, a lot don't realize how much of that is so mainstream in Asia. Most are based on the incredibly popular anime/manga comic books those series are derived from. How many One Piece fans are out there as one example? Look at this article.
 
Well, an easy way for them to check is if she sometimes accesses Netflix (using the same MAC address, such as on a laptop or iPad) at your home as well as at her dorm. Even if there are ten or fifteen MAC addresses that access via the same account at multiple locations, they might only need one to travels back and forth to consider the account valid.

We'll see how this shakes out. I suspect the bigger issue that Netflix is looking for are multiple IP locations used for access, with NO common devices used in both locations.
In Europe I’m not sure they can. An IP/MAC address is considered personal information under GDPR.
 
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Netflix doesn't release all shows in binge, a lot of the asian TV series that they have exclusivity with are weekly or a few weekly like it's broadcast there. They found like other services that consumers like a mixture of live content availability versus the whole TV series released so you can binge only.

But these are shows that Netflix had no hand in producing, so they are at the mercy of the broadcast schedules of those networks. For titles like Alice in Borderland or Wednesday, they dumped all episodes on the viewer at one go, and it makes me wonder what exactly is the difference between a tv show and an extremely long movie in that regard.
 
They can’t use max address wouldn’t be viable for most apple produce since different Wi-Fi connect different MAC address which would make them think different device even though it’s the same
 
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They can’t use max address wouldn’t be viable for most apple produce since different Wi-Fi connect different MAC address which would make them think different device even though it’s the same
android adopted the same thing
 
Netflix might want to think harder about this as their outreach will seriously diminish if this crackdown comes into effect. I pay for my subscription but most of my coleagues piggy back off their parents/relatives etc. Netflix did run a 'Sharing is caring' campaign a few years ago actively encouraging subscribers to share their passwords with loved ones lets remember. Its not exactly a huge monthly fee and maybe people share passwords because to them its not worth it for the one or two shows they watch? It might be worth them overlooking this and just continue with the exposure they have.
 
I wonder what’s been keeping them from doing this. Streaming services like Disney+ and TV+ let you sub for one year at a time at about 10 months’ worth of payments. It would help lock in users for a longer period of time and prevent switchers.

I suspect Netflix realises this might end up actually costing them money. Because while “switchers” may pay more, faithful subscribers who continue to pay month after month may end up paying less.

Sounds like Netflix basically wants their cake and to eat it too.
Yea they are taking about forcing minimums and not just a deal for annual. NF will probably force minimums with no deal
 
Yea they are taking about forcing minimums and not just a deal for annual. NF will probably force minimums with no deal
In this regard Netflix shows that it is still thinking like an older alternative to USA cable/satellite TV. Most sVoD services offer both monthly and annual. It is odd that Netflix doesn't these days. :rolleyes:

All things considered the legacy HBO premium TV services for $15 extra was a worst deal, now everything from HBO Max in the states is $15.99 monthly, and $149 yearly. Going by that deal Netflix could offer the same for $186 USD annually if they wanted to. :)
 
But these are shows that Netflix had no hand in producing, so they are at the mercy of the broadcast schedules of those networks. For titles like Alice in Borderland or Wednesday, they dumped all episodes on the viewer at one go, and it makes me wonder what exactly is the difference between a tv show and an extremely long movie in that regard.
That last comment is precisely why I enjoy most of the asian content over too much TV shows that resemble soap operas in the states. A lot of the TV series content is movie quality like drama even if it's romance based somewhat. K2 was a good example.
 
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