Have you contacted Netflix and asked them if that's in compliance with their terms of service that you agreed to? What was their response?
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Netflix to Expand Crackdown on Password Sharing in Q1 2023
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Have you contacted Netflix and asked them if that's in compliance with their terms of service that you agreed to? What was their response?
Good, pay their price for their service or unsubscribe but sharing with those outside your household is against the TOS and analogous to theft.
What is a Netflix Household?
A Netflix account is meant to be shared with people who live in the same location with the account owner.help.netflix.com
Sharing your Netflix account
A Netflix account is meant to be shared in one household – people who live in the same location with the account owner.
Simple as that.
It's not simple if members of the family move. Netflix says absolutely nothing about a family who has had an account for decades but decide to move, or send their kids to college or heck even the military. Your post pretty much tells me you live alone and families should never move if they want to keep their accounts.
Probably still included. D+ Hulu ESPN+ has gone up like twice, and it's still fully included with VZW
Seeya Netflix, don't let the door hit you on the ... on the way out!
If family members move to a different location then they should get their own Netflix account.
If your kids grow up and eventually move out of your house as adults starting a family, etc., shouldn't they be signing up for their own Netflix account?
Right but I’m asking about password “sharing”. My family doesn’t all live in the same house anymore
Not if it's a family account with 4 member profiles which has been used for at least a decade. They should get rid of the profile feature then because it's now useless.
By the way, I allow my family to use Disney+ which I paid for. I don't consider that theft.
Netflix may update their terms of service when they fully implement the blocking mechanism, but for now this is allowed and has always been allowed.
"4.2. The Netflix service and any content accessed through our service are for your personal and non-commercial use only and may not be shared with individuals beyond your household unless otherwise allowed by your subscription plan..."
"4.3. You may access Netflix content primarily within the country in which you have established your account and only in geographic locations where we offer your subscription plan and have licensed such content...."
The Netflix terms of service term "household" to deal with who you can share you with, not where it can be shared. The "where" is dealt with in 4.3, and most definitely allows you to use outside your main home while travelling, even outside the US if the Netflix plan you are on is offered in the country you are visiting.
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Ah, ok... Then your grown adult children who have moved out of your house, starting their own family across the country, should be entitled to free Netflix service from your subscription. Even though they are not members of your household.
Astonishing.
Multiply that by millions of other people who have similar views, and it's no wonder Netflix needs to increase their subscription rates.
I'll worry about having children if I decide to have children. I'm talking about a 4 person household where 2 people moved. Every family is different and they get to decide how to live their life.
All I'm saying is I think Netflix should clarify their TOS to address to move question because right now they don't.
I hope you don't watch Netflix on your phone or in another location. Based on your logic, that is theft.
I believe this is pretty clear:
"What is a Netflix household?
A Netflix account is for people who live together in a single household. This single household is the Netflix household and is associated with the primary account owner’s devices and the devices used by other people who live in the Netflix household. "
I always wonder if they think it's technically theft fpr people outside the household to come watch NF with you?
Then on the FAQ, my question would be what if a family moves, or what if they send kids to college. How do they address the separation of families question and where do they draw the line. I actually agree with you that if kids move out and then have a household of four because they start their own family, then they should have their own account. However, not everyone is like that, so when a household splits in 2, does that void the subscription?
Yeah. If I invite a friend over and we watch a netflix movie together, based on the logic here, that Friend would be stealing because he/she is using my account, despite the fact that I gave him/her permission to use that account. My Parents gave me permission to use the account and I've been doing so for at least a decade. They move away, does that mean the permission becomes null and void just like that?
"A Netflix account is for people who live together in a single household. This single household is the Netflix household and is associated with the primary account owner’s devices and the devices used by other people who live in the Netflix household."
The above seems pretty clear. It's for people who live together in a single household.
I define household as family, not physical location. If it's physical location, then the fact that they have mobile apps for Phones and Ipads contradict their TOS. How dare they put an app on a "Mobile" device if you're only allowed to watch it at home. Like I said, I hope you don't watch Netflix outside the home (Say you bring your devices with you on Vacation and decide to watch Netflix in a hotel room) because if you do, you're stealing, according to the logic here.
Well fine I have given Netflix plenty of money over the years for full 4K living by myself. My parents and brother maybe used my account a couple times a year. Always kept it active to have the "option" for all of them.
Looking at my account age it made me laugh. I have kept my account active all these years at max price now they have nothing. I barely used the service myself so it was free money to them.
I am a total idiot though. You used to keep accounts like this active to grandfather into TOS and pricing. Well those days are long gone you just get the rug pulled from under you whenever so ✌️.
Yea when I read that, to me if you were traveling, you would still live at that address, so you would be able to watch anywhere. Even school or military, you could still put residence as your home, so could still also watch. Now people who live or moved to another address permanently should not be allowed.
That's nice that you define household as family, and not a physical location.
The problem is Netflix doesn't even mention family. Again: A Netflix account is for people who live together in a single household.
If you don't agree with Netflix's terms you signed up for, it seems you should stop using their service. And instead, sign up with another streaming service that meets your needs.
I suspect they will use a combo of IP and MAC addresses, combined with Profiles. Thry might allow access from multiple locations, even if no common MAC addresses are used, if you log in, then select the same profile. Especially if a movie is started in one location, then later the unwatched portion is continued at your office.
Hopefully their algorithm to identify misuse is sophisticated enough to try to figure out at least some of the issues brought up in this thread. There are valid accesses from different location, and then there is out and out password sharing (which many of us have done over the years, say with an eldery relative that barely uses the service).
I've long since canceled Netflix and see no reason to ever return, but I was paying for the 4K/4 screens plan. I had it loaded on my dad's Roku so I could watch when I visit him and he could use it in the meantime. Nothing was stolen from Netflix. No income was lost to them. Everything used was paid for with 2 streams left over. He was never going to subscribe on his own, and I was never going to pay more so I could share. Now Netflix can continue to enjoy getting nothing. If they think that's better for their books then who am I to question it?
If I was Netflix, I be focused initially on MAC address of TV manufactured products, that show different LANs in use. You should be able to tell if a different WLAN/IP range is in use belonging to an educational institute for families with kids at colleges.
Looking at other devices could readily show mobile usage which would be a waste of time to track, or a TV occasionally used by another party which would be what they are looking for and query subscriber about it.
My guess is that subscribers in a similar situation to you are expected to be written off. Netflix will have this exodus the ship will tilt and then be righted.
