It's also a practice that was condoned and even encouraged by the company and CEO Reed Hastings, as I noted earlier.
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Netflix to Expand Crackdown on Password Sharing in Q1 2023
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Everything going full circle. Subscribed to Netflix when it was advertised 4 screens and meant to share. Better than cable because you didn’t have to be tied to your tv in your house. Now only 4 screens only in same physical location, tied to being in your house. And guess what cable now lets you watch anywhere even when you aren’t in the same physical location. I’ve never got any complaints from cable from kids using credentials in other places. Also no complaints from Disney+, Hulu, Prime, Paramount, peacock. Netflix is stepping over the edge on their own. Good luck and goodbye.
I'd sooner pay for cable again than pay full price for 4K Netflix.
My recent experience with Netflix has been a trend towards higher prices, lower quality, and less convenience. To which I can only say, "Yargh! It's driving me nuts!"
Why? It will end the same, as the origional account holders (ie. the paying subscribers) are still paying. It is the additional screens that Netflix are referring to. Why should they offer a FREE service,..they are a listed company. Would you offer services for free?
Netflix gives users no incentive to prepay for an entire year, so I don’t understand why anyone would keep this service for longer than a month in any given year. Also, the monthly “cost” does not include the cost of your time. Count the costs.
Netflix blows away expectations on subscriber numbers
Netflix reported earnings after the bell. Here are the results.
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- Netflix added 7.66 million paid subscribers during the fourth quarter, more than the 4.57 million Wall Street expected.
- This is the first quarter that Netflix’s ad tier is reflected in its earnings.
- EPS: 12 cents vs 45 cents per share, according to Refinitiv.
- Revenue: $7.85 billion $7.85 billion, according to Refinitiv survey.
- Global paid net subscribers: 7.66 million adds, compared to 4.57 million subscribers expected, according to StreetAccount estimates.
Easy, I am the paying subscriber. The only reason I tolerate Netflix is because my brother can use it and my parents can use it. We all live in different households. I am paying for the service, if they want to increase it by 35% I have no problem canceling the account. Thats how you lose a person paying 20 dollars a month for 4 streams.
The cheapskates who think everything should either be free and/or provided by mom and dad are pissed! Grow up, learn the value of a dollar…
The “password sharing crackdown” looks like the greed of man but is actually a gift from God. Save your money; better yet, save your time. Turn off your TV and see where boredom takes you.
What if you live between two homes? Or want to watch at work, or on holiday, for example?
Assuming you’ll be able to use your mobile device… but what about a TV or computer in that location?
If the above is allowed, I wonder how they’ll know the difference between that and, say, a friend in another household using it?
Assuming you’ll be able to use your mobile device… but what about a TV or computer in that location?
If the above is allowed, I wonder how they’ll know the difference between that and, say, a friend in another household using it?
Yeah, I'm over Netflix. I was getting it free with T-mobile but I switched to Verizon and didn't see the need to renew at all. Stopped watching Netflix 6 months ago so it was good but not worth the price these days.
Netflix today said that it plans to roll out paid sharing "more broadly" in the first quarter of 2023, expanding a crackdown on Netflix accounts that are shared between multiple households.
In a Q4 shareholder letter explaining the changes [PDF], Netflix says that widespread account sharing undermines its ability to invest in and improve the service.
Based on testing in Latin America, Netflix says that it is anticipating "some cancel reaction" in each market where paid sharing is introduced, but an overall improvement in revenue is expected as "borrower households" activate standalone accounts and as extra member accounts are added. According to Netflix, an estimated 222 million paying households share passwords with an additional 100 million households that could be monetized.
Netflix will require people who share accounts with others outside of their household to pay to do so. Add-on payments have already rolled out in some Latin American countries, with Netflix charging around $3 extra for an additional non-household user. A report from The Wall Street Journal in December suggested Netflix could charge just under $6.99 for account sharing in the United States.
Netflix plans to enforce password sharing rules through IP addresses, device IDs, and account activity.
The terms of service for Netflix have never allowed for multi-household sharing, but Netflix has allowed the practice for so long that implementing fees for offering account access to friends and family could upset some subscribers.
Pricing on Netflix plans includes watching on multiple supported devices in addition to affecting streaming quality, but Netflix does not want multiple viewers using the same account unless they live together. Netflix's premium plan, for example, allows for Ultra HD 4K streaming and support for watching on four supported devices like iPhones, iPads, and Macs at one time, but in the future, access will be limited to people in the same home.
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If you're using the same computer or device you do at home, I'm sure the MAC address will be tied to the account, so traveling shouldn't be an issue. As for two different locations ... who knows?
Oh? so they are really making worthwhile content to pay for? Wow since when? Since they create anything bad or good.
I suspect they might be looking at your account activity over time with some degree of flexibility (to not annoy actual customers) - if there are a few consistent MAC addresses (i.e. an iPad or a laptop) that travel back and forth across the two IP locations, they might assume a household that owns multiple homes. I'm sure that's why they beta tested this in a smaller, less important market before rolling it out to their major ones.
Exactly.
Hey, Netflix, why are you selling 6 account plan? Cut it down to 2, shave UHD plan price by 30% and see what happens. You can’t have it both ways.
This. If I have to pay for another account to use at my cabin, I’ll be pissed. It’s not the money, it’s the principle. I’m the same person using my account at two locations.
I cancelled Hulu+ over this garbage. Way more expensive than Netflix.
Summer home. Winter home. One Netflix account. Works now. How about next year? I won’t buy two.
So my daughter in college won’t be able to use our family account? I was mulling getting rid of Netflix for the last couple of weeks. Netflix may have made the decision for me.
This gets asked over and over, but what does Netflix do if you verify that? I suspected they don't care about a college student onsite associated with a family subscription, because it's a limited time exception, that or it involves a token fee to provide that exception. Either way we need someone to know their policy leniency.
Don't think I would pay for a Netflix account, most of the content is complete garbage (yes I know people like different things), some of their home brew content is really scraping the barrel in terms of concept.
I have just looked on eBay and some of the big movies on there you can get as a used DVD for £2-3, and keep it forever, and share them, and use them at different locations, and without any terms and conditions.
I have just looked on eBay and some of the big movies on there you can get as a used DVD for £2-3, and keep it forever, and share them, and use them at different locations, and without any terms and conditions.