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This to me seems like an intentional design and artistic decision considering ‘black mirror’ refers to the reflective surface of a phone screen. So it would only make sense to make it available predominantly on mobile.
So how do you explain every other Black Mirror episode that plays fine on Apple TV?
 
Android smart TV’s are total turds with horrible GUI’s, slow GUI’s, and a bovine excrement UX. Let’s not even get started on their insanely invasive data harvesting for ad targeting, non-existent security, and piss-poor support. My work just bought a top-of-the-line Sony Bravia 4K 80” smart TV for the conference room, and it’s the WORST POS I have EVER used! Insanely slow and laggy UI, doesn’t remember custom colour settings whenever you switch HDMI ports, and has frozen twice!

At least LG TV’s use Web OS, which is much nicer than that turd Android, but even those I still don’t trust. If I am ever forced to get a Smart TV because my current non-Smart TV bites the dust, I am NEVER connecting it to the network, and using my Apple TV 4K with it, and NOTHING else.
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The world has “moved on” because they’ve been brainwashed by marketing hyperspeak to make people think Smart TV’s are the end-all and be-all of everything they may need, without realizing just how invasive these devices are, harvesting vast amounts of your data and sending that off to third-parties, often without your knowledge and consent, and as with some major OEM’s of these turds, if you do not consent to the data harvesting, the TV will simply refuse to function.

I’ve stopped MANY people from getting one of these monstrosities, or at the very least convinced them NOT to connect it to any home network and use it offline, as it’s safer and less invasive to use them like this, in conjunction with an Apple TV.


So let me break this down. Because I have an opinion that isn’t yours, that makes me a troll?

I have an Apple TV and a 4K Sony TV. The Sony TV I got on Black Friday last year for £700. It was meant to be £1200. The TV loads much quicker than my Apple TV ever has. It has a dedicated Netflix button to launch straight to the app. The UI is absolutly fine for any normal user. The quality is fantastic. There has been ZERO advertising and I haven’t been required to set up or sign in with my google account. I am extremely happy with my purchase.

Now, I have movies and tv shows that I have purchased using the Apple TV. The reason I purchased an Apple TV in the first place was for Netflix. The hell am I going to spend £179(roughly 25% of the cost of the TV) on a new box just to go to 4K when I can stream straight from my new TV. 1080 is fine for the tv shows and movies that Netflix don’t have (which is actually none of them at this current time). I can also stream Spotify or YouTube using chrome cast far easier than AirPlay.

Considering TVs cost the same as phones and tablets these days shows the shift that’s happening in consumer perchasing.

Please remember, Just because it’s not your opinion doesn’t make your opinion right or the other person a troll.

His point is the world has moved beyond boxes and these apps are built into the TV. Like he said, if apple wants to push into the market they’re going to have to do platform agnostic with their content. I’d use them if I had an app on my LG, or on my non smart TVs that have a Roku (the legit best box btw). Unless you are an apple devotee why would anyone lock themselves into their content platform?

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I watched/played this last night and it's actually really well done. The branch points are seamless and the decisions you have to make later make it more engaging (I even felt guilty at one point for what I made the main character do :confused:). Saw two different endings (no idea how many there are).

Shame that Netflix apparently didn't see a need to update their Apple TV app. Perhaps they are increasingly seeing Apple as a competitor, given Apple's ambitions in the streaming content space (perhaps that's also behind Netflix's decision to no longer off in-app subscriptions).

I used a Roku 2 (2015 model) and Bandersnatch worked fine, except that it crashed at one point leaving me with a black screen. Fortunately the progress through the decision points is stored, so you can resume where you left off later.
 
The reason we didn’t get an updated Apple TV Netflix app is there just isn’t enough users. The developers prioritized the systems that most people use & Apple TV didn’t make the cut.
 
The reason we didn’t get an updated Apple TV Netflix app is there just isn’t enough users. The developers prioritized the systems that most people use & Apple TV didn’t make the cut.
What are you talking about?
 
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surpised to find that it does not work on my tv’s netflix app since the puss n boots and mine craft ones do

works from the 2012 mini that’s plugged into the tv. just means it’s 1080p instead of 4k
 
At its launch, it will be available in 27 languages to 137 million Netflix subscribers. The only notable devices excluded from running the interactive film at its launch will be Apple TV and Google Chromecast as Netflix didn’t have time to optimise the episodes for those platforms before its release. Regardless, Yellin is confident that the “vast majority” of Netflix customers will be able to access a device that can play the episode.

https://www.wired.co.uk/article/bandersnatch-black-mirror-episode-explained
lol no one read this.

Can confirm is doesn't work on Windows 10 app either...I would think a Windows 10 PC would be a "notable" device...
 
Just saw this and the first thought I had is that tvOS (read: not iOS) may not support custom handling of media segments to Netflix’s requirements to support this feature.

I’m guessing that Netflix is using Exoplayer for Android based devices which is why it is supported. Roku allows all types of custom handling of playback as well.

For Chromecast, Google recommends you to use their MPL apis which makes it limiting for what they want to do here.

For the SmartTVs, you can load your own custom players on newer TVs.

In short, this feature IMO requires custom handling of playlist segments for obvious reasons. If you were using anything native, you will likely have less control over this. I think it primarily has to do with player capabilities over memory constraints.
 
I think it's open to interpretation, but I think "black mirror" refers to the reflective surface of any screen. Including television screens.

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No, ‘Black mirror' refers to a television, as clearly stated by Brooker.

This to me seems like an intentional design and artistic decision considering ‘black mirror’ refers to the reflective surface of a phone screen. So it would only make sense to make it available predominantly on mobile.

Black Mirror - used to demonstrate the perfect reflection of a ray of light, without any refraction, or scattering.

The "Black" backing absorbs all the light that hits it, while the mirror layer on the surface reflects.

From high school or college physics.

The title infers perfect reflection.
 
Black Mirror - used to demonstrate the perfect reflection of a ray of light, without any refraction, or scattering.

The "Black" backing absorbs all the light that hits it, while the mirror layer on the surface reflects.

From high school or college physics.

The title infers perfect reflection.

Or we could go off of what the creator where he refers specifically to TV and mobile screens.


Skip to 4:30 to see "What does the title black mirror mean?"
 
I have an Apple TV and a 4K Sony TV. The Sony TV I got on Black Friday last year for £700. It was meant to be £1200. The TV loads much quicker than my Apple TV ever has. It has a dedicated Netflix button to launch straight to the app. The UI is absolutly fine for any normal user. The quality is fantastic. There has been ZERO advertising and I haven’t been required to set up or sign in with my google account. I am extremely happy with my purchase.

Now, I have movies and tv shows that I have purchased using the Apple TV. The reason I purchased an Apple TV in the first place was for Netflix. The hell am I going to spend £179(roughly 25% of the cost of the TV) on a new box just to go to 4K when I can stream straight from my new TV. 1080 is fine for the tv shows and movies that Netflix don’t have (which is actually none of them at this current time). I can also stream Spotify or YouTube using chrome cast far easier than AirPlay.

Which Sony 4K TV from last year? I also have a flagship Sony 4K TV I bought last year and there’s no way any Sony Android TV OS model is running faster, or more smoothly than the Apple TV 4K. If yours is, you’re doing something wrong. I really wish I could reassign that Netflix button, but nope. And here I thought Android was supposed to be more flexible than iOS. Same for the big-brother Google button. The UI is a bloody mess for any user, inconsistent from App to App. The Sony is loaded with advertising that all has to be disabled. And if you have Samba enabled, then you’re giving away far more data than Google ever took from you. And £700 is not the normal price for a mid to high end flat panel. Even £1200 is pretty low. But it doesn’t mean anyone else, or you will ever be able to get such a TV for that price, especially larger screen sizes which are in much higher demand, and TVs tend to last 10 years or more.

If you have 4K Netflix service, there’s no way to limit it to 1080p on some programs which is just as good as 4K on the Sony, plus Netflix offers HDR and DV in 1080p — this has the effect of speeding up Sony’s pokey Android system, by conserving bandwidth.

I find Chromecast far more cumbersome with this TV than using AirPlay, specifically with Apple devices. Airplay is far more reliable and predictable. If you have no Apple devices with which to use AirPlay, then I wonder why you’re commenting on here?
 
Or we could go off of what the creator where he refers specifically to TV and mobile screens.Skip to 4:30 to see "What does the title black mirror mean?"

I saw what the creator said, did get his meaning for the series.

I just threw in the physics thing, because that's what I thought when I first saw this title. It was fun trying to relate.:cool:

I still want it to be so;)!
 

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So let me break this down. Because I have an opinion that isn’t yours, that makes me a troll?

I have an Apple TV and a 4K Sony TV. The Sony TV I got on Black Friday last year for £700. It was meant to be £1200. The TV loads much quicker than my Apple TV ever has. It has a dedicated Netflix button to launch straight to the app. The UI is absolutly fine for any normal user. The quality is fantastic. There has been ZERO advertising and I haven’t been required to set up or sign in with my google account. I am extremely happy with my purchase.

Now, I have movies and tv shows that I have purchased using the Apple TV. The reason I purchased an Apple TV in the first place was for Netflix. The hell am I going to spend £179(roughly 25% of the cost of the TV) on a new box just to go to 4K when I can stream straight from my new TV. 1080 is fine for the tv shows and movies that Netflix don’t have (which is actually none of them at this current time). I can also stream Spotify or YouTube using chrome cast far easier than AirPlay.

Considering TVs cost the same as phones and tablets these days shows the shift that’s happening in consumer perchasing.

Please remember, Just because it’s not your opinion doesn’t make your opinion right or the other person a troll.



THANK you!!
And you have just proven my point of you trolling... The Sony TV’s are THE WORST in terms of UI lag, poor performance, and a garbage UX. Despite your skewed and incorrect thought process, people don’t buy / upgrade their TV’s as often as they do their tablets and smartphones; TV’s usually get purchased and retained for MUCH longer periods of time, and as these garbage Android TV’s suffer from the same lack of support and updates pretty much as soon as they leave the factory floor, consumers are often confronted with the BS reality of having to buy a new TV to replace a perfectly functioning one, simply because they’ve been duped into buying a piece of trash with bundled services / apps that are now rendered garbage because like all Android devices, they don’t get updated, and have piss poor security to boot. I’ve already had many friends cussing at the fact their perfectly good Samsung or Sony TV now can’t use the “smart” functions because entities like Netflix have cut off the older versions of the bundled apps, and cannot upgrade to the latest ones because the manufacturer has abandoned the TV and doesn’t provided an updated version of Android OS which is needed to support the newer app versions! So they’re option now is to either buy a new smart TV, buy an add-on Android box and fiddle with more Android garbage, or buy the Apple TV and be happy they now have a long-term, support solution.

It’s MUCH smarter to buy a device for services such as apps UNBUNDLED from the main TV, as the TV is a piece of equipment that will last FAR longer and not need upgrading, and then you just periodically upgrade the smart box as needed. And if you’re smart, you’ll also realize the Apple TV 4th gen and 4K models last MUCH longer than any other box on the market due to their lengthy support provided by Apple.
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Which Sony 4K TV from last year? I also have a flagship Sony 4K TV I bought last year and there’s no way any Sony Android TV OS model is running faster, or more smoothly than the Apple TV 4K. If yours is, you’re doing something wrong. I really wish I could reassign that Netflix button, but nope. And here I thought Android was supposed to be more flexible than iOS. Same for the big-brother Google button. The UI is a bloody mess for any user, inconsistent from App to App. The Sony is loaded with advertising that all has to be disabled. And if you have Samba enabled, then you’re giving away far more data than Google ever took from you. And £700 is not the normal price for a mid to high end flat panel. Even £1200 is pretty low. But it doesn’t mean anyone else, or you will ever be able to get such a TV for that price, especially larger screen sizes which are in much higher demand, and TVs tend to last 10 years or more.

If you have 4K Netflix service, there’s no way to limit it to 1080p on some programs which is just as good as 4K on the Sony, plus Netflix offers HDR and DV in 1080p — this has the effect of speeding up Sony’s pokey Android system, by conserving bandwidth.

I find Chromecast far more cumbersome with this TV than using AirPlay, specifically with Apple devices. Airplay is far more reliable and predictable. If you have no Apple devices with which to use AirPlay, then I wonder why you’re commenting on here?
The moment this guy piped up to vouch for the speed and quality of the Sony 4K TV was more evidence he is trolling. That is the exact TV brand we put into my company’s boardroom, and in fact it’s the top-end 4K version, and it’s a SLOW DOG, full of bugs, glitches, freezing, and piss poor performance at best. My Apple TV 4th gen wipes the floor with these garbage piles.
 
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So, what's the walkthrough synopsis already? Anyone? Is it anywhere as engaging as Netflix's riveting, interactive movie "Puss in Boots"?
 
I mean my TV comes bundled with Netflix and Hulu and stuff too, but it's hot garbage quality.

That’s not true of all TV’s. We have an LG OLED TV and use the installed Netflix, Amazon and Hulu apps on it, via ethernet, for all our streaming. Quality in HD and 4K is superb.
 
This to me seems like an intentional design and artistic decision considering ‘black mirror’ refers to the reflective surface of a phone screen. So it would only make sense to make it available predominantly on mobile.
Accept that it’s available in smart TVs
 
You won't be missing much. Pretty big time investment for what amounts to a pretty paltry story.
 
Yeah, it's better to have an underpowered and horribly designed "box" integrated with your $1,000+ television that will be obsolete in a few years vs. an advanced, well-designed external box that can be upgraded separately from your TV for ~$100.

Not when the box is included with anything you buy these days (Amazon, Netflix, etc fund this by paying the manufacturer to put their buttons on, plus the TV maker sells your viewing information), the interface is often better (i.e. keyboard in the remote or Wii-like mouse), and the only reason why you'd upgrade is to watch 8K 4D video, in which case you need a new TV anyway.
 
Ignorant, BS troll comments like yours are what makes me long for this site to have a DOWNVOTE button!
...........I’ve stopped MANY people from getting one of these monstrosities, or at the very least convinced them NOT to connect it to any home network and use it offline, as it’s safer and less invasive to use them like this, in conjunction with an Apple TV.

Because I really, really wanted 4K OLED, I purchased an LG, so called "smart" TV. However, I have yet to watch anything on it other than through the 4K Apple TV. The picture is stunning. The "smart" apps have not been used at all, other than for a few adjustments in tv settings (picture, aspect, sound). There is one other app I really enjoy, called Gallery, which projects framed art in sleep mode, and genuinely appears to be 3D pictures on the wall given the ridiculously thin screen.

Personally, while I live in an Apple ecosystem, I would not want a dedicated Apple television. It would be required for all rooms where you want a TV; would have to come in a variety of sizes to meet those different rooms; and would leave everyone who wants AppleTV subject to the whims (and prices) of one company.
 
Are you talking about the Google Chromecast or the Android TV boxes? The Android TV has some of the worst UI for a settop box. Google made multiple attempts with Google TV and a few other boxes but never got the UI working right. Chromecast meanwhile is a better device than Android TV but it is just a caster.
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Because I really, really wanted 4K OLED, I purchased an LG, so called "smart" TV. However, I have yet to watch anything on it other than through the 4K Apple TV. The picture is stunning. The "smart" apps have not been used at all, other than for a few adjustments in tv settings (picture, aspect, sound). There is one other app I really enjoy, called Gallery, which projects framed art in sleep mode, and genuinely appears to be 3D pictures on the wall given the ridiculously thin screen.

Personally, while I live in an Apple ecosystem, I would not want a dedicated Apple television. It would be required for all rooms where you want a TV; would have to come in a variety of sizes to meet those different rooms; and would leave everyone who wants AppleTV subject to the whims (and prices) of one company.
Anybody still dreaming of an "Apple TV" has lost it. It's never going to happen. The problem is with the service providers also everyone (ok a large majority) wants a cheap TV. I don't have the numbers but I can bet there are more sub-$800 4k sets out there than premium 4k sets.
 
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As an iOS developer I have a bone to pick with Netflix: The Apple TV IS AN IOS DEVICE, which they claim to support.

Also as an iOS developer, I can say with confidence there is NO REASON the AppleTV app cannot handle these interactive videos if they work on the phone and tablets. The AppleTV itself has more memory than some of the phones...

I am a bit of a tvOS developer myself (I just spent a couple of months learning) and my understanding is that the issue is with the standard tvOS media player, used by most apps (not by YouTube for example, and so YouTube is interactive. But many complained when Google abandoned the tvOS media player in favour of the standard YouTube one). In tvOS to stream any video without extra features is a simple line of code.

I don't know how it works with iOS, but I believe they are different apps, using a different media player. So yeah, in such a case it would be up to Apple to add the interactivity features to the embedded media player. Otherwise Netflix would have to rewrite (or port) a new media player for tvOS.

PS: Regarding the Sony 4K TV with Android TV "debate", I own one myself, a 2016 model. The problem is that all Bravia Android TVs since mine up to today, with the exception of the last two flagship models (AF9 and ZF9) all mount the same identical HW: a Mediatek POS MT5891 with 2GB of (slow) RAM. I personally measured the Antutu benchmark score and it was 27K. Against the 200+K of the ATV 4K...

The interface is a slide show, and so are most apps. Amazon Prime Video is a piece of junk, stuttering and losing the audio. There isn't a single decent fully featured media player (God save Infuse on Apple TV!!). The DTS passthrough is broken. Only Sony's Video plays everything (without crashing), but that's it (yes, I tested most of them, that's why I ended up buying an Apple Tv 4K). Still only from local USB if one uses subtitles, as simple videos (no identification of the movies or TV Shows) . There are two lines of bloatware on top of Home (which can fortunately be disabled disabling the notifications in the app "Sony Shelf"). It keeps rebooting, losing the profiles for the connected HDMI devices, the Discovery menu keeps crashing and doesn't even have the most needed different settings for SDR/HDR (just the brightness and maybe the gamma). HDR isn't working on YouTube either. Actually, now it plays the HDR videos in HDR, but it sets the wrong color space: BT.709 instead of BT.2020. Apparently this bug has propagated to Android 8 in the AF9/ZD9.

I have no issues stating myself that the guy praising Android TV has been trolling hard.
 
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