The last two MBPs I've owned with a discrete GPU has died because of hardware defects.
I'm not sure I trust Apple enough to get a third MBP with a discrete GPU.
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New 15-inch MacBook Pro and 27-inch iMac Expected to Launch This Wednesday
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The last two MBPs I've owned with a discrete GPU has died because of hardware defects.
I'm not sure I trust Apple enough to get a third MBP with a discrete GPU.
Your facts are wrong, GTX 950M does not consume 75W, I'm not even sure if the 970M consumes that much, maybe.
950M consumes around the 40-45W region, the 750M consumes 45W to give perspective.
Personally my dream card to be included in the new Mac would be the 965M, second gen Maxwell but still within resonable TDP and huge performance compared to the still capable 750M.
But roll on Wednesday if these rumours are true.
Sucks that happened to you. I admit I beast my GPU with an unholy amount of gaming, around gone through one power supply which I always keep well ventilated and off the carpet. GPU is solid and because of my warranty I'm not worried, Apples problem if something goes wrong. Maybe AppleCare might be an idea?
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I regularly (daily) do marathon gaming sessions online on my Mac and beast it, never had a problem with the PSU not being up to scratch, aside from it dieing on me once but it was immediately replaced with a new one.
I wonder how much slower they will be compared to the models they are replacing...
don't worry, it'll be a lot thinner and less ports to compensate for that
Kia offer a 7 year warranty with their new cars here in the UK... Porsche offer a 2 year warranty. Better stuff doesn't always mean better service/warranties sadly
That happened once. How did once turn into always? Stop spreading misinformation to others. You might want to look up Haswell. There wasn't any delay to other oems.
Given that intel is just now releasing Broadwell chips appropriate for the 15" model, you shouldn't expect to see them in the first batch of Skylake. If they were about to update those chips to Skylake, this round would have been cancelled.
your numbers are probably right,
I got my numbers from here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_900_series#GeForce_900M_.289xxM.29_series
I have the razerblade with the 970M, it has a thermal system very similar to the MBP. however, the razor blade gets way too hot. Way hotter than 15 MBP already do. I suppose it is possible that apple would increase the Power Supply, and and put a significantly more expensive GPU and somehow innovate a thermal system that is better than the Razers. Possible, but I think very unlikely unfortunately.
But assuming your information about the 960M watts, and the PS of the 15 MBP, then a 960M would be possible.
However, I wasn't even originally thinking of terms of thermal perspective, or even what the PS can push. I was jus thinking in terms of mere, power consumption / battery draw back.
Ignoring all other factors, I think it is unlikely Apple would pick a card that consumes more power, to get more gaming performance in there 15" MBP.
So I think we are still at the same conclusion that we will probably get the 950M, totally awesome that it is a 2x graphics increase. small chance, of a 960M.
Personally, I agree with you though. If I ran apple, I would totally do what Razer did to try to put in a 970M, even if it meant more expensive, and less battery life. and having to redesign the thermal system.
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you are right, I got the wrong specifications on the 900M series.
970M consumes: 80-100W
source: http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-970M.126694.0.html
A 965M would be lovely to have in the MBP, too bad it's a dream
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No it happens all the time. I stated 2 times it has happened. However, I think it happened for ivy-bridge as well, and many other times
for the last 5 years at least, apple gets first access to many of intels chips, and often times gets to be the first to release computers with them.
You should go look up haswell, there was delays to other manufacturers. Apple was the first to launch laptops with the processors that were in the 11 13" MBA and the 13" 15" MBP. not other OEMs had computers available with those chips until several weeks after.
And same exact thing with this broadwell roll out.
There are no other OEMS that have the intel chips that are in the 11" 13" MBA and the 13" MBP.
I am not saying that Apple is launching skylake chips, read my post. I am the one saying that we won't see skylake until late 2016.
Most of the Skylake chips desktop and laptop(H,U,Y) will be out by or before the end of year. Around September will see the first desktop Skylake chips.
That is the only hesitation I would have buying these new machines.
Apple could refresh again this fall. They have done a refresh that soon before so no reason they wouldn't.
People saying Skylake won't be in macs until 2Q next year are nuts..... Unless Apple waits for the new discrete graphics from nvidia and AMD with a 28nm to 16nm shrink and HBM memory. Performance should increase 40%.
Skylake is a big deal. It should be a cpu performance gain of 20% over broadwell. Broadwell has only been about 5% better than haswell.
That is the only hesitation I would have buying these new machines.
Apple could refresh again this fall. They have done a refresh that soon before so no reason they wouldn't.
People saying Skylake won't be in macs until 2Q next year are nuts..... Unless Apple waits for the new discrete graphics from nvidia and AMD with a 28nm to 16nm shrink and HBM memory. Performance should increase 40%.
Skylake is a big deal. It should be a cpu performance gain of 20% over broadwell. Broadwell has only been about 5% better than haswell.
If they can make a gold one of the 15" or return the 17" in gold I would upgrade my current macbook pro to those.
I tried to upgrade to Yosemite and my macbook pro was sluggish so went back to Mountain Lion. I still liked the look of Yosemite so I guess I'd have to get a new mac to get it.
I tried to upgrade to Yosemite and my macbook pro was sluggish so went back to Mountain Lion. I still liked the look of Yosemite so I guess I'd have to get a new mac to get it.
Just because I don't think enough people tip their cap, your posts are really well thought out. I enjoy your contributions.
There is no reason to feel this way. Undoubtedly, in the past Intel GPUs were garbage, and only applicable to cheap laptops, since they couldn't even play HD movies without lag. These days however, Intel has made leaps and bounds of progress with their GPUs. Their highest end GPUs are sort of hybrid GPUs that mostly share RAM with the CPU, but also have a small amount of dedicated RAM. The performance of the Iris Pro has shown to be quite good.
We now have the 5th gen in the 13 inch model, and will be getting it in the 15 inch soon. The performance should be quite good.
What a silly dumb question. Lol
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Point me to the last CPU update from Intel that brought a 20% increase in power.
20%? Some are saying it could be a P4 to Core microarchitecture performance increase
Or a 10-15% like Nehalem to Sandy Bridge
Skylake has a new chipset and a whole lotta extra goodies.
Broadwell can be be dropped in most current 1150 boards.... Pretty boring update. If there is anything to get excited about, Broadwell will have better intel graphics! You might see 20% increase.....
Or a 10-15% like Nehalem to Sandy Bridge
Skylake has a new chipset and a whole lotta extra goodies.
Broadwell can be be dropped in most current 1150 boards.... Pretty boring update. If there is anything to get excited about, Broadwell will have better intel graphics! You might see 20% increase.....
I'm planning to buy theWatch... Now I change my mind.. going with the Macbook Pro 15"... no need for the watch..
Feel the same way. Was gonna spend 700 on the watch but may just put it towards a new mbp.
Meanwhile... The MD101 LIVES...
Obsolete 3rd Gen Intel, 4GB RAM, 800P screen, slow spinning 500gb drive: $1100.
While you can have a Retina 2015 for $1200 on sale at most stores, maybe less as a student.
Please Apple, kill this thing on Wednesday or at least at WWDC.
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This is simply not even close to true.
the Surface Pro 3 and Yoga Pro 2 got Haswell early last year, way before the MB Pro got it in August.
And no OEMs have the Intel chips in the new Macs because Apple uses modified versions of the Windows 5200U i5 and 5500U i7 chips. All of these processors are introduced in Windows laptops in January at CES. Toshiba, Dell, HP and Lenovo all released models with 5th gen Intel before the Pro and Air were refreshed with Broadwell last month.
Obsolete 3rd Gen Intel, 4GB RAM, 800P screen, slow spinning 500gb drive: $1100.
While you can have a Retina 2015 for $1200 on sale at most stores, maybe less as a student.
Please Apple, kill this thing on Wednesday or at least at WWDC.
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This is simply not even close to true.
the Surface Pro 3 and Yoga Pro 2 got Haswell early last year, way before the MB Pro got it in August.
And no OEMs have the Intel chips in the new Macs because Apple uses modified versions of the Windows 5200U i5 and 5500U i7 chips. All of these processors are introduced in Windows laptops in January at CES. Toshiba, Dell, HP and Lenovo all released models with 5th gen Intel before the Pro and Air were refreshed with Broadwell last month.
Agreed. Although still a nice machine, it needs to go. The retinas have gone down in price enough to where I can't recommend buying the cMBP unless you are getting it for a very good deal. I'd say at this point its ridiculously overpriced. I would rather buy a MacBook Air. Heck, even a the ULV CPU in the Air is probably as fast as the cMBP at this point. Plus for $1100 you could upgrade the Air with 8 GB of RAM.
So literally for the same amount of money, You get a lighter, thinner, machine with SSD standard and 8 GB of RAM with a higher resolution screen. The IGPU will also be faster on the Air as well.
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You're mistaken. The Surface Pro 3 and Yoga Pro 2 don't use the same Haswell parts that the MacBook Pro uses. Not even close.
Two weeks ago I used United Miles (287k) to purchase a 15" MBP from the MileagePlus Awards site. My order is still listed as "Processing". It's been in that mode since May 9th. I'm hoping dumb luck is on my side and I get the updated version that's coming out.
Unless Intel is releasing chips early for Apple. Didn't they do that with the MBA cpu's for gen 1?
I also remain skeptical of this too.
Also I don't think Apple will make a 4k iMac screen. Simply because people would like to edit their movie in 4k plus have their editing toolbars onscreen too. hence you need something like 5k, ie the 27 5K we have now. And you'll need a way better gpu for that than what the 21.5 has. And I'm not sure if the 27's GPU's would run too hot for the 21.5.
I like how GPUs are supposedly "not important" to "the vast majority of Pro users" and yet every thread about the specs of the new MBPs consist mainly of GPU speculation.
History should have taught me that even if there is no logical reason not to include a 960M in the next machines, we will still get a 950M, through sheer contempt if nothing else.
History should have taught me that even if there is no logical reason not to include a 960M in the next machines, we will still get a 950M, through sheer contempt if nothing else.