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Very tempting.... But I'll show some willpower and wait for skylake in hopes of a redesign. My 2009 C2D is still holding its own
 
What are modern laptop PC SSD drive throughputs at these days?

The fastest 2.5" SATA SSDs are also by Samsung, and they reach Read/Write speeds of around 520/540 MBps. That's 1/4th what this drive can do.

I would rather have half that speed and twice the storage. I currently have a sdd with 1/4 of the speed, there has never been a time where it thought "I wish this was faster". With 500MB/s I can read the whole 256GB disk under a minute.

Well what do you think drives the prices down? It's improvements like this that do. If manufacturers know that their fastest 1TB SATA drive is 1/4th the speed of a 1TB PCIe drive, and that limitation is on the SATA protocol itself, their only option is to lower the cost of the 1TB SATA drive so that it looks slightly more appealing.


The real question is, when is PCIe going to replace SATA in everything, and when can we start buying these chips off the shelf.
 
That's impressive.

*starts looking at eBay to see how much mid-2013 15" is worth*
 
Still no 32GB Ram option.
Come on Apple, this is supposed to be a pro machine. 16 is not enough even for chrome these days.
My current Chrome session with 140 tabs eats 17gigs of ram. :cool:
 
The MBP is on the cusp of a major redesign and upgrade.

Now is not the time to buy a MBP.

I would disagree. If a design is stable, I tend to choose it over the first generation of a new design. They did implement the updated trackpad. Historically Apple doesn't make hardware tweaks like that if they're about to redesign something. They just roll it into the redesign. I don't think you'll see anything of the sort in less than a year and quite possibly 2.
 
Anybody have a comparison between flash storage on exiting Macs? And why they are so many variations?

The best I can gather, Apple only publishes MacBook Air, MacBook Pro, and Mac Pro's.
  • MacBook: ?
  • MacBook Air: 1.5 GBps
  • 13-inch MacBook Pro: 1.6 GBps
  • 15-inch MacBook Pro: 2.0 GBps
  • Mac mini: ?
  • iMac: ?
  • Mac Pro: 1.2GBps

Unofficially, it seems both retina MacBook and Mac mini are 775 MBps.
 
I am sure we'll see a new redesign this year of the 15" MBP using same design concepts of the 12" MacBook. Hopefully they can slim down the overall size, if they do, I'll be the first one in line to buy.
 
Very impressive. It's pretty sad though that Apple is getting this kind of performance out of their laptops while they still insist on using spinning hard drives as the default options for most of the standard Mac Mini and iMac configurations.
 
I would disagree. If a design is stable, I tend to choose it over the first generation of a new design. They did implement the updated trackpad. Historically Apple doesn't make hardware tweaks like that if they're about to redesign something. They just roll it into the redesign. I don't think you'll see anything of the sort in less than a year and quite possibly 2.

Interesting. Personally, I expect a new design with Skylake in 3–9 months. Time will tell. :rolleyes:
 
Very impressive. It's pretty sad though that Apple is getting this kind of performance out of their laptops while they still insist on using spinning hard drives as the default options for most of the standard Mac Mini and iMac configurations.

Exactly! I made a sad mistake in buying a iMac Late 2012 with a Hard Drive. I think the fusion drive included as standard.
 
It's not apples fault. It's the limitation of DDR3.

Still no 32GB Ram option.
Come on Apple, this is supposed to be a pro machine. 16 is not enough even for chrome these days.
My current Chrome session with 140 tabs eats 17gigs of ram. :cool:


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People buy macbook pros for it's performance. Hence the pro. People buy imacs/mac mini to browse the web and play facebook games. if you want a desktop performance get the mac pro.

Very impressive. It's pretty sad though that Apple is getting this kind of performance out of their laptops while they still insist on using spinning hard drives as the default options for most of the standard Mac Mini and iMac configurations.
 
I am sure we'll see a new redesign this year of the 15" MBP using same design concepts of the 12" MacBook. Hopefully they can slim down the overall size, if they do, I'll be the first one in line to buy.

I'd be surprised if they were able to make it any thinner than currently.

The rMBP is already on the limit as far as cooling is concerned. If it was thinner they'd have to compromise on the performance, particularly with dGPU choices.

Also, Apple already make 2 lines of thin notebook now (Air and MB) so I think there is room to keep at least one notebook on the 'thicker' side and thus with better performance.
 
I'd be surprised if they were able to make it any thinner than currently.

The rMBP is already on the limit as far as cooling is concerned. If it was thinner they'd have to compromise on the performance, particularly with dGPU choices.

Also, Apple already make 2 lines of thin notebook now (Air and MB) so I think there is room to keep at least one notebook on the 'thicker' side and thus with better performance.

I was more implying the height and width of the laptop more so than depth. Those bezels on the screen can definitely be decreased based on the improvements to the backlit display

Imagine a 15" laptop the size of a 13" or little bigger :)
 
The MBP is on the cusp of a major redesign and upgrade.

Now is not the time to buy a MBP.

I disagree. They just updated the hardware. Also, the current Macbook Pro design is still very competitive. People who absolutely must have an über-thin super light laptop can buy the new Macbook. The MBP is the machine for everyone else.
 
I was more implying the height and width of the laptop more so than depth. Those bezels on the screen can definitely be decreased based on the improvements to the backlit display

Imagine a 15" laptop the size of a 13" or little bigger :)

Ah yes, I guess there is improvement possiblity there.
Also colour choices perhaps? Though might not fit in with 'Pro' ideals.

I sort of feel bad for Apple since Intel have been dragging their feet with Broadwell for so long, I guess they felt they couldn't wait any longer. I've seen a number of posters complaining about the slower RAM speeds etc, none of which is Apple's fault.
 
It's not apples fault. It's the limitation of DDR3.

It IS Apple's fault. 4-slot laptops can take 32GiB of standard RAM. Intel provides guidance on supporting 32GiB RAM with 2 slots of Intelligent Memory on Broadwell. I guess this means I should actually be asking Apple for 64GiB.
 
The MBP is on the cusp of a major redesign and upgrade.

Now is not the time to buy a MBP.

Source please ?

I see absolutely no evidence for a major redesign or upgrade to the MBP coming soon.

I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't get redesigned until 2017.
 
That's probably because you do very basic tasks. I need all the speed I can get. I do a ton of movie editing and a fast CPU and fast storage is extremely important.


I understand why this would be very exciting for users like you, but for the large majority of users it is probably overkill.

Don't get me wrong, improvements in technology allowing for better performance are always a good thing, but I don't think that this gives most users a reason to replace their machines if they weren't already planning to.
 
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