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We need everything else to catch up so we can make use of these speeds.

I am hoping we get faster memory on the iPhone to start with. And hopefully by next year we will have affordable 1TB-2TB SSD's for my NAS :D

This. For 99.99% of uses and users, this completely overruns the capabilities of the rest of the system. Still, faster is better than slower. :)
 
What are modern laptop PC SSD drive throughputs at these days?

The Samsung SM951 will offer similar performance and can be found for around £150 for the 256GB model.

Here is what my Intel 750 can do:
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MBPr @ 2015 October Keynote

Based on all this, my prediction is that wrt the MBPr it will get a 'it's going really great' with no update, as that happened this week.
 
It's not apples fault. It's the limitation of DDR3.



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People buy macbook pros for it's performance. Hence the pro. People buy imacs/mac mini to browse the web and play facebook games. if you want a desktop performance get the mac pro.

:rolleyes:

"Pro" is a marketing buzzword. People buy iMacs to do video editing and other pro work.

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Source please ?

I see absolutely no evidence for a major redesign or upgrade to the MBP coming soon.

I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't get redesigned until 2017.

I think it will get tweaked a bit with a new keyboard style and all metal hinge instead of plastic.

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How are these speeds suddenly amazing?

PCI SSD's have always been fast. You can find drives that range from 1900mb/s to 2900mb/s in a few clicks.

Comparing SATA to PCI is silly at best and just stupid at worst.

Uh, we're comparing the speed to past PCI SSDs.

They're getting so fast so quickly.
 
I disagree. They just updated the hardware. Also, the current Macbook Pro design is still very competitive. People who absolutely must have an über-thin super light laptop can buy the new Macbook. The MBP is the machine for everyone else.

The MBP will be updated again soon. This generation of processors were delayed by Intel, and they've decided to just shorten this lifecycle rather than delay the next major platform update too (Skylake).

That means we will see new laptop processors with significant advantages to these ones much sooner than you might expect. That means this MBP will become inferior to the competition quickly unless Apple update to the new processors soon after they arrive.

Skylake sounds great. Intel typically have a "tick/tock" release cycle where they alternate major and minor processor releases. Apparently Intel consider this upcoming platform to be the most significant for a decade. It's worth waiting for it if you can.
 
The MBP is on the cusp of a major redesign and upgrade.

Now is not the time to buy a MBP.

Just buy it when you need it, and maybe try to time it closer to refresh then if it's been a while if you're flexible, but if you wait for the right time you're never going to buy anything. Life is short, don't waste precious seconds of your life using old tech. If you need a mbp, now is a good time to buy, last month was not.
 
so $2k MacBook laptop comes equipped with mind boggling PCI-E flash storage, yet $2k iMac ships with 7200rpm spindle that is infact 20+ years old technology. Bravo Apple, only you can pull such stunt.
 
:eek::eek: 2000MB/s read, thats utter insanity?! There isn't a M.2 SSD on the market that i've seen do that and Apple haven't even barely uttered a word about it!

That's sort of the problem with Apple nowadays. They've changed their focus, and while things like this new technology finds it's way into new products (mind you, Samsung made it, Apple just uses it), Apple doesn't care enough about this sort of technology to give it as much attention as, say, the Apple Watch, etc.

I just put the same SSD in my 2009 Mac Pro (a Samsung SM951) and get 1500MB/s read and write. Not bad for a 6 year old computer!

SSD technology is making giant leaps right now. It's exciting!
 
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so $2k MacBook laptop comes equipped with mind boggling PCI-E flash storage, yet $2k iMac ships with 7200rpm spindle that is infact 20+ years old technology. Bravo Apple, only you can pull such stunt.

Ummm...the $2k iMac includes a 27" 5K display. I don't get what your point is? A 512GB PCI-E flash drive is between $400 and $500.
 
And a 27" 5k retina display. Oh the details you leave out.

so $2k MacBook laptop comes equipped with mind boggling PCI-E flash storage, yet $2k iMac ships with 7200rpm spindle that is infact 20+ years old technology. Bravo Apple, only you can pull such stunt.
 
ah, right on, i thought you were the guy he originally replied to. complaining seems to be the norm tho, when there are so many models to choose from. half the time (regarding pros, at least), it's usually from people who just want faster netflix streaming and more storage for their 500 pirated movies. i see these same people on threads catered to professionals and their niche needs, mocking things they don't even try to comprehend. ce la vie i guess...

Yep! Nail on head.

These are the "i'll wait until next big processor change guys" and when that comes out they go "I wait until gen 2 of this design it'll be better" and the cycle continues forever. There is some bizarre self satisfying money convincing going on in here.
 
Must...hold out...for Skylake.

Get ready to wait 12 months.

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That's sort of the problem with Apple nowadays. They've changed their focus, and while things like this new technology finds it's way into new products (mind you, Samsung made it, Apple just uses it), Apple doesn't care enough about this sort of technology to give it as much attention as, say, the Apple Watch, etc.

I just put the same SSD in my 2009 Mac Pro (a Samsung SM951) and get 1500MB/s read and write. Not bad for a 6 year old computer!

SSD technology is making giant leaps right now. It's exciting!

Selling 4-5 million Macbooks vs. 36-50 million Apple Watches, per year. Try again and explain how they should focus on the former.
 
My 2009 C2D is still holding its own
Trust me, it's not.

My wife has a 2009 C2D, and I have a 15-inch, Early 2011 2.2 GHz Intel Core i7 that I got with a 256 GB SSD and it smokes the C2D. Considering that the new models are probably 30% (or more) faster at the same clock speed as my i7 and their SSDs are probably 5 or 10 times faster, the C2D will feel like an arthritic drunk trying to keep up.

Edit: I just ran Disk Speed Test on my i7 with its 2011 SSD. It's getting around 180 MB/second read speeds and around 130 MB/second write speeds, so the new SSDs are more than 10 times faster.
 
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Upgrading from a mid-2012 15" MBPr w/2.3ghz i7, would I see a major benefit running Adobe Illustrator? We do a lot of editing in Illustrator but it's only utilizes a single core of the processor. Can someone else chime in if i'll notice a difference, or whether I should stick it out for the next major upgrade.
 
so $2k MacBook laptop comes equipped with mind boggling PCI-E flash storage, yet $2k iMac ships with 7200rpm spindle that is infact 20+ years old technology. Bravo Apple, only you can pull such stunt.

Ha, I can do better.

iPad mini 2 has a 2048 x 1536 resolution and starts at $329, but MacBook Air has a 1366 x 768 resolution and starts at $1099. So, bravo Apple, I have to wait another year in the hopes of a compelling computer.
 
I would rather have half that speed and twice the storage. I currently have a sdd with 1/4 of the speed, there has never been a time where it thought "I wish this was faster".

SSDs have more of an impact on perceived performance of a computer than any incremental improvements in CPU or memory.... by far..... I might have 50+ TB of storage, but I only need between 256GB or 512GB of SSD for everything I work on since I move what I am working on to the SSD... and archive storage to slower hard drives. Speed increases in the slowest media on the computer are much appreciated by me... far more than a slightly improved CPU (generational) or memory..... I can even setup a small database to simulate production environments that give me a reasonable speed in testing large processes etc. So yep, lovely improvement.... but I will wait until probably the next refresh.
 
We do a lot of editing in Illustrator but it's only utilizes a single core of the processor. Can someone else chime in if i'll notice a difference, or whether I should stick it out for the next major upgrade.
Are they large files? Do you save often and notice any speed issues? It's been a long time since I used Illustrator but I don't remember it being disk intensive. I don't think the processor speed will make a big difference for you, so it really depends on the disk usage. You also might notice a battery performance improvement if you work unplugged often.
 
Feels good to read a post about the MacBook Pro. Kinda tired of scrolling past articles about Apple Watch and sea of accessories surrounding it.
 
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