dysamoria
macrumors 68020
No insider info. Just what we get from people who talk about Apple, including in the rumors sites.
What are you referencing when saying Tim Cook pivots on a dime?
New 16-Inch MacBook Pro is Thicker and Heavier Than Previous Generation
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What are you referencing when saying Tim Cook pivots on a dime?
I compared the size of the "14inch" and it's actually smaller than the 2010 13inch MBA. The new Apple is still failing to understand that the size of the laptop matters when you are doing professional work, because you want concentration. No matter if the display is bigger because the bezels are thinner, however, the overall area that your laptop hides from the background is smaller.
MacBooks would be much better if you take the current display sizes and just add their usual thicker bezels around them, making them actually bigger.
For me, the new 14inch NBP is a 13inch, no matter how they measure it.
MacBooks would be much better if you take the current display sizes and just add their usual thicker bezels around them, making them actually bigger.
For me, the new 14inch NBP is a 13inch, no matter how they measure it.
Equitek
macrumors newbie
I may be the only one, but I actually love the taskbar.
I’m still buying a new 14 inch though, lol not a 13.
Darth Tulhu
macrumors 68020
The products released, from one gen to the next, under Tim Cook.
Darth Tulhu
macrumors 68020
I wonder if the Watch, AirPods, Pencil were Steve Jobs's ideas. In any case, seems like Tim says "yes" to his team more than Steve did. Maybe. IDK.
So far, I think Tim has carried the ball into the end zone more times than he's fumbled it.
justperry
macrumors G5
According to the specs Macrumors listed:
.66in - .64in = .02in
Converted to mm via google gave me 0.508mm
Just showing my work
Dammit, must have been asleep.
dysamoria
macrumors 68020
I was hoping for some examples.
Adamantoise
macrumors 6502a
We use HP and Dell machines at work, which is why the office admin didn't buy any HDMI to USB-C adapters.
If we had machines that only had USB-C ports, then those adapters would be provided. I'm not really sure what you're getting at.
Conference rooms simply provide options for interfacing with the equipment they contain, it's a non-issue in a work environment is what I'm trying to say. You walk into a conference room and your connectivity options are accommodated.
spaceywilly
macrumors member
This. A lot of people commenting are clearly not the target market for this laptop. It’s aimed at people who use their laptops exclusively for work, hence the Pro name which for a few years has been put on some very non pro laptops. This time around it’s clear that they listened to what the Pro customers were asking for. The HDMI port is the perfect example of this. I’m sure every traveling sales person they talked to complained about the lack of HDMI port, imagine not being able to give a presentation because you forgot your dongle. They listened to these people and they priced it to sell to these people. If you don’t want so many ports get the MacBook Air, this one isn’t for you
spaceywilly
macrumors member
This is my biggest knock on Tim Cook right now. He hasn’t unveiled anything new or innovative. He’s just been polishing the same old iPhone, iPad, MacBook, Watch lineup. In the Steve Jobs era you’d regularly see entire new products unveiled that would make you think “hm, seems weird but ok” and then a few months later you would think “how did I ever live without this.” Tim hasn’t given us anything like that yet.
joecomo
macrumors 65816
Same with me - would have loved mag safe + 4 TB - that would have been the perfect machine
They’re used pretty heavily by drones and SBCs, and quite a few people at work use them a lot.
Yeah, ****ed if I can see a good reason for that.
I’m guessing there’s some major bottleneck that’s still not sorted out so they covered up by offering other ports instead.
I’m not crying about it, but it would be useful to have one on the 2.0 bus if there was room on the case.Here I am!
The 16” model hits the limit of battery capacity for air travel
You jest, but the Intel macs did have a usb2.0 hub inside feeding the HIDs, camera, etc., though all soldered rather than plugged. IDK if the M1s do.I wonder if the ifixit tear down will show a USB-C hub hidden inside with a bunch adapters plugged in.
Also that makes it more convenient to connect directly to a UPS, without conversion losses.
still, I wish Apple would include a big capacitor in the iMac so when you get a power cut or some idiot unplugs the wrong cable it has time to suspend execution (assuming you have the disk space), or overwrite the RAM with random data (to defeat RAM freezing).
It does seem strange that they didn’t bring back the Kensington lock socket, especially on the iMac.
Matlab. They appear to have gotten a lot better in 2021a but they’ve had good years before and returned to form.
Mr.PT
macrumors 6502a
Agree, and let’s not forget he took a very ungrateful task, taking over Steve’s legacy. Apple silicon is impressive.
kb923689
macrumors regular
Yes, with a HDMI port. And sometimes even with a *gasp* VGA port.
Oberhorst
macrumors regular
I'm fine with thicker and heavier if it means better airflow, performance and battery life. I just don't like HOW they reshaped the body with these round, fat looking corners at the bottom and those huge feets. It looks like a machine from the 2000s. I guess this is what happens when Jony Ive is not actively involved in the design process anymore and only functions as a "consultant".
And that notch is just ridiculous. There are already Windows machines with a comparably thick top bezel (maybe slightly thicker) that have a built in camera without a notch. If I expected anyone to put a camera into a thinner bezel it used to be Apple but I guess they're not at the edge of the game anymore.
I just hope the new MacBook Air will look nicer and not have a notch.
And that notch is just ridiculous. There are already Windows machines with a comparably thick top bezel (maybe slightly thicker) that have a built in camera without a notch. If I expected anyone to put a camera into a thinner bezel it used to be Apple but I guess they're not at the edge of the game anymore.
I just hope the new MacBook Air will look nicer and not have a notch.
Mr.PT
macrumors 6502a
Maybe the rumoured car will give us that. Also curious about the interaction of the “goggles”. Meanwhile we have to acknowledge the Apple silicon…although also under the “not a new kind but a better product” mantra, which to be fair, is in line with Apple’s history.
Mr.PT
macrumors 6502a
Also miss Sir Ive a lot lately. The way I see it, both he and Steve were not that good in compromising…and kept pushing their ideas/ideals forward. But then again, there’s a very thin line between persistence and stubbornness…nevertheless new iMac, IPhone and MPB Designs are unquestionably loosing edge and appeal.
edit: not even considering the watch colors.
Well, they measure it by screen size (as everyone does), so it's a 14".
I had a 2019 Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Carbon. That was a 14" laptop, but it was smaller in every dimension than a 13" MBA. Absolutely tiny, and light as a feather. It had an almost edge-to-edge display, allowing a full 14" 4K display to fit in such a small enclosure.
You are the first person I have heard who is distracted by the environment BEHIND your laptop when you work! Might I suggest... sitting a little closer?
Mr.PT
macrumors 6502a
Everyone might be overstating…I wished only for a magsafe return but was expecting a USB-C / TB magnetic adapter solution. Not pleased with the one side limitation. Loosing one TB port not good either. As for Design, looks like folks at Apple need to get back to office, as this “work @ home” is clearly not delivering…nevertheless rather this retro look than the childish design of IMac.
I would agree. Have not been in a conference room / corporate presentation space where multiple options were not presented. HDMI, USB-C, VGA...Of the many issues I had with the previous version of the MacBook Pro, being unable to do a powerpoint presentation, or not being able to walk through models with a projector was not an issue.
Now, I have a wasted, single use port I don't need.
Exactly! Let's make it easy for you: the difference is 6mm, which 1mm more than half a centimeter.
2021 16-inch MacBook Pro
- Height: 0.66 inches (1.68 cm)
- Height: 0.64 inches (1.62 cm)
The difference is 0.6 mm. You’re wrong.
Janichsan
macrumors 68040
Not only metrics unit seem to be hard, math seems to be as well.
If the 2021 MBP were 6 mm thicker than the 2019 model, it would be 16.2 mm + 6 mm = 22.2 mm thick. Which it obviously isn't.
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Maybe distraction is not the right word, because it's not that you are distracted, but that if you are working on a small canvas, it's a much better working experience to put the little canvas inside a larger working surface that hides the background, rather than working with that tiny canvas surrounded by background everywhere.
I'm certainly not alone, I remember there was people agreeing with me when they reduced the size of the MBA while keeping its display size (so, same display but thinner bezels: smaller laptop) and I said I wanted the same laptop size for this very same reason (either with thin bezels and increasing the display size, or thick bezels and same display size --obviously the former is better, but if it's not possible, I prefer to keep the laptop size).
One factor here might be that Apple seems to struggle with weight... it seems very difficult for them to reduce weight these days, so I suspect this is why they try to reduce laptop size as much as they can. I choose the MBA in 2010 just because of one reason: lighter laptop in 2010 that ran UNIX. For me, it was just two things: weight and UNIX. Now, I grew older, and I also value a large display. So, I now look for little weight, big display, and UNIX. And here, Apple offers NO product at all. You have the 17inch LG gram, which shines (you can say it bends, or looks like plastic, or whatever, but it's amazing: 17inch for the weight of an MBA... Apple cannot compete with that nowadays).