New 16" MacBook Pro coming Oct? (Catalina not releasing until then)

[Painter2002]

I am just curious if anyone else thinks that Apple may be releasing Catalina in October since this could be when the unveil a new MacBook Pro redesign. I know its all conjecture, but this the first time I have really seen them stagger all the OS updates so much, especially with Catalina so far out that it truly makes me think we'll be seeing a reveal of a new design then.

 

[leman]

I think November is more likely, if at all.

 

[BluAffiliate]

I think November is more likely, if at all.

Why nov?

 

[eulslix]

It definitely wont come before the October event. So availability is very likely in November. All of that IF that 16” MBP actually exists.
After the big letdown yesterday for the rest of their lineup, I’m not holding out my breath for it anymore... if it exists, its most likely just another XDR stunt within the exact same casing

 

[leman]

Why nov?

That would follow the previous pattern and of course generate a lot of momentum for the holiday sale season. Not to mention that I find it unlikely that AMD will be able to provide new GPUs before nov.

 

[itsamacthing]

Love all the absolute talk... the only thing I'm sure of is that it wasn't released yesterday. I'm hopeful it drops by years end, Apple MAY have postponed the release so that marketing can focus on the iPhone/Watch. Maybe it will drop when Apple releases the new Mac Pro?

 

[jerryk]

Love all the absolute talk... the only thing I'm sure of is that it wasn't released yesterday. I'm hopeful it drops by years end, Apple MAY have postponed the release so that marketing can focus on the iPhone/Watch. Maybe it will drop when Apple releases the new Mac Pro?

All good options. I suspect if they have it ready they will do it soon to get the sales into the year end numbers, which is what we shareholders expect. Shares up 1.5% this AM, so the new releases are having an impact.

 

[Jaekae]

think november-december but announcing it in october event, apple have big troubles with catalina betas so think thats why its delayed

 

[youdontsay]

There's been no rumors on this whatsoever but I just hope if they redesign the thing, they won't let us wait 8 more month to also redesign the 13" into a 14" …

 

[Painter2002]

Love all the absolute talk... the only thing I'm sure of is that it wasn't released yesterday. I'm hopeful it drops by years end, Apple MAY have postponed the release so that marketing can focus on the iPhone/Watch. Maybe it will drop when Apple releases the new Mac Pro?

This is probably a good call. I just find the whole update schedule very bizarre compared their previous releases. Usually everything is synchronized pretty well. Almost feels like Apple is unorganized all of a sudden.

 

[leman]

This is probably a good call. I just find the whole update schedule very bizarre compared their previous releases.

I disagree. It was always a fairly normal thing for Apple to have out–of–Sync updates, just think of the original retina and tb models. And random update schedules of Apples suppliers don’t help either. Ice lake launch is a mess and AMD is not much better in this department.

 

[Painter2002]

I disagree. It was always a fairly normal thing for Apple to have out–of–Sync updates, just think of the original retina and tb models. And random update schedules of Apples suppliers don’t help either. Ice lake launch is a mess and AMD is not much better in this department.

I guess I’m still new to the MacOS end of the updates, I thought they were always lined up pretty well. That said the intel and AMD upgrades are pretty messy as of late like you say.

 

[me55]

Apple probably needs the time until October to fix the T2 bugs...

 

[nylon]

Catalina Webpage says October.

 

[wi1dstar]

I guess I’m still new to the MacOS end of the updates, I thought they were always lined up pretty well. That said the intel and AMD upgrades are pretty messy as of late like you say.

It’s been fairly standard that Mac products aren’t announced during the iOS events in September. I think everyone got hyped up to maybe the MBP being announced early because the model numbers leaked so early and all of the news reports (I know I did). Hopefully an October event will yield a redesigned MBP this year.

 

[The Mercurian]

I think it won't go to close to Holiday season. They would want to get it out there and supplies up before holiday buying starts to kick in. So if it comes out this year I'd say October most likely, or maybe early part of November.

 

[Painter2002]

It’s been fairly standard that Mac products aren’t announced during the iOS events in September. I think everyone got hyped up to maybe the MBP being announced early because the model numbers leaked so early and all of the news reports (I know I did). Hopefully an October event will yield a redesigned MBP this year.

The products I knew, it was the macOS part that was weird to me. Either way, just wondered if there was a connection between to the later launch of macOS and a new MacBook Pro.

 

[DHagan4755]

Apple will have a professional-focused event in October for the Mac Pro, iPad Pro, MacBook Pro. In tandem there will be an iOS 13.1 update as well as the release of macOS Catalina.

 

[jerryk]

I think it won't go to close to Holiday season. They would want to get it out there and supplies up before holiday buying starts to kick in. So if it comes out this year I'd say October most likely, or maybe early part of November.

I even think November is too late. People are focused on holiday plans by the 1st week in November. October or late Q1 2020 is guess.

 

[wi1dstar]

I even think November is too late. People are focused on holiday plans by the 1st week in November. October or late Q1 2020 is guess.

Typically announced Oct, available Nov

 

[Queen6]

It definitely wont come before the October event. So availability is very likely in November. All of that IF that 16” MBP actually exists.
After the big letdown yesterday for the rest of their lineup, I’m not holding out my breath for it anymore... if it exists, its most likely just another XDR stunt within the exact same casing

Likely same as the current model with just a larger display, better dGPU, maybe more CPU options. As for when it's launched only Apple knows, maybe never. What can be guaranteed it's going to cost more.

I do think the best iteration of the MBP will be a better machine as the 2016 design has been overly problematic and generated a level of negativity for Apple.

Q-6

 

[MrGunnyPT]

Honestly have no idea.. They announced the base iPad refresh at an iPhone event... Plus the event itself doesn't seem like "an iPhone" event but more like WWDC where it's general..

I'm not even sure if they doing an October event.. Only reason I could see it happening was if they refreshed the whole line.. Which wouldn't make sense with this recent Summer refresh...

I mean I hope they won't just update the store and put the 16" up.. Worse case scenario next year? In a way it would be good for them to build up stock and get cheaper components.

 

[richinaus]

Likely same as the current model with just a larger display, better dGPU, maybe more CPU options. As for when it's launched only Apple knows, maybe never. What can be guaranteed it's going to cost more.

I do think the best iteration of the MBP will be a better machine as the 2016 design has been overly problematic and generated a level of negativity for Apple.

Q-6

I am expecting a pro event in end October [30th maybe?]

Announce 16" MBP [and hopefully a 14" but no rumours to back this]. As Q6 states.

Update the iPad pros with improved camera and CPU [just a minor refresh]

Release the macpro, ready for shipping.

 

[theluggage]

The products I knew, it was the macOS part that was weird to me. Either way, just wondered if there was a connection between to the later launch of macOS and a new MacBook Pro.

It is pretty common for the new MacOS and iOS to be previewed at WWDC with availability sometime in Sept/Oct/Nov. I don't recall them ever having an "event" to launch a new OS that had already been showcased at WWDC.

I don't recall any consistent synchronisation of new Mac and new OS releases, either. No True Scots... sorry, no sane "pro" user is going to install Catalina on their production machine on day one - aside from the trusty adage "don't buy version 1.0 of anything" there are always some key applications that don't get updated immediately - so it actually makes sense for new models to initially ship with the old OS. The 16" rumour doesn't sound like it includes any exotic new hardware that would only work with Catalina.

There was nothing surprising about this week's event - every year people get convinced that Apple are about to announce new Macs, iCars and Mr Fusion at the September event, then act all disappointed when its just a slightly upgraded iPhone.

The 16" MBP is still just a rumour - nobody here actually knows if it will launch this year or not... but bear in mind that (a) its getting on for 6 months since the last MBP update, (b) its 4 years since the last significant physical re-design, and (c) the recently updated "non-touchbar-MBP-now-with-touchbar" are a branding trainwreck* that shouldn't really be lumped together with the other MBPs. So a new MBP in October wouldn't be that premature, especially since Apple desperately need at least one laptop that doesn't have the discredited butterfly keyboard.

(* I'm talking about branding here, not the hardware - they have lower-powered processors and fewer ports than the other MBPs but there's no sensible branding to differentiate them. Problem goes away if the "real" MBPs morph into "14" MBPs". Personally, I think they should be re-branded "MacBook" now that the 12" MacBook-should-have-been-Air is dead.)

 

[Painter2002]

It is pretty common for the new MacOS and iOS to be previewed at WWDC with availability sometime in Sept/Oct/Nov. I don't recall them ever having an "event" to launch a new OS that had already been showcased at WWDC.

I don't recall any consistent synchronisation of new Mac and new OS releases, either. No True Scots... sorry, no sane "pro" user is going to install Catalina on their production machine on day one - aside from the trusty adage "don't buy version 1.0 of anything" there are always some key applications that don't get updated immediately - so it actually makes sense for new models to initially ship with the old OS. The 16" rumour doesn't sound like it includes any exotic new hardware that would only work with Catalina.

There was nothing surprising about this week's event - every year people get convinced that Apple are about to announce new Macs, iCars and Mr Fusion at the September event, then act all disappointed when its just a slightly upgraded iPhone.

The 16" MBP is still just a rumour - nobody here actually knows if it will launch this year or not... but bear in mind that (a) its getting on for 6 months since the last MBP update, (b) its 4 years since the last significant physical re-design, and (c) the recently updated "non-touchbar-MBP-now-with-touchbar" are a branding trainwreck* that shouldn't really be lumped together with the other MBPs. So a new MBP in October wouldn't be that premature, especially since Apple desperately need at least one laptop that doesn't have the discredited butterfly keyboard.

(* I'm talking about branding here, not the hardware - they have lower-powered processors and fewer ports than the other MBPs but there's no sensible branding to differentiate them. Problem goes away if the "real" MBPs morph into "14" MBPs". Personally, I think they should be re-branded "MacBook" now that the 12" MacBook-should-have-been-Air is dead.)

I think some people are misreading my question. I knew there wasn’t going to be any Mac announcements at the September event, or at least didn’t expect any, as that’s not what Apple normally does. But at least since I started using Macs some years back, macOS always seemed to come out on the time frame as iOS. So it almost seemed like it could be held out for a new product.

I could see there being an exotic screen resolution on the next MacBook Pro depending on how they design it, but then again that’d be showing up in the beta already so it makes my question kind of void.