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New 20GB, 30GB and 40GB Toshiba Drive Specs

Re: The problem with larger drives...

Originally posted by MacRETARD
The problem is that iPods with these larger drives are going to weigh more. The 40 gig drive will weigh twice as much as the 20, and *8* times as much as the 5 gig iPod! I personally prefer the light weight.
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Your nickname is well chosen.

Data density can be increased. It is not just a matter of adding more platters. That is how you can have different drives of different sizes (data wise) of the same physical size.

R&D rulez!!!
 
Re: The problem with larger drives...

Originally posted by MacRETARD
The problem is that iPods with these larger drives are going to weigh more. The 40 gig drive will weigh twice as much as the 20, and *8* times as much as the 5 gig iPod! I personally prefer the light weight.
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hmmm.. i don't think so, you RETARD (hahah. j/k! :D ;) )
 
Originally posted by vanillamike
Just give me the super slim 20 GB ipod for the price of the current 10 GB and you have a deal!!!
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Add me to the list, I'll take one too. :D

jmurnik:
Maybe the 10GB is staying the same (except maybe a price drop). The 20GB will get the slimmer drive and then new 30 and/or 40GB added. With larger drives being added I have a strong feeling that the 5GB is going to get dropped...
 
here's hoping for a 40gig...

I would love to see a 40gig model -- I have 38 gigs of MP3s at the moment loaded on my iMac. That's all fine and dandy for when I'm at home, but I really want something to carry all of my music with me :)

Of course, what would be really good would be a 60 or 80gig model later on this year -- then, I would have room for expansion and even some room for backup files :D
 
Originally posted by GrandShenlong
I don't think Apple will put FW800 on iPods anytime soon, since the current Toshiba hard drives use only half the bandwidth of FW400. Unless Apple decides to put a 15,000 rpm drive in their new iPods, chances are, they'll stick with FW400. On the color screen matter, the iPod was designed first and foremost as an mp3 player, and it fills this role superbly. Thus, I don't think Apple will come out wiht a major revision to the iPod design, though I think a completely new device is doubtful for now (or maybe they've been delaying their big announcement to finish the new device?)
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This logic is totally wrong. The speed limit in the US tops out at 70mph...why does your car go faster? FW800 has more benefits than just speed that could enhance the iPod. I expect to see FW800 on all new FW devices. The chipset isn't much more expensive from what I hear so there's really no harm.
 
just for the record, the iPod is not just a musical MP3 player, to some its an AIFF or WAV player. Besides an obvious Firewire drive.

Tyler
 
I see from this thread that many people feel that 40gb is too much for a portable mp3 player. Now for them, if 40gb is too much, don't buy one. But for people that need that much space, this is what we've been waiting for. I have over 50gb of MP3, and growing, so I dont think ill ever have an iPod for my whole library.

A side note, these 1.8" HDs seem to be growing, but laptop 2.5" drives havent gone above 60 in a long time, they have just made the 60gb ones as thin as the rest of them. When are laptop drives going to break the 100gb barrier? Then powerbooks and iBooks will have more room than their iPods.
 
40 gig not even enough

For all those that say 40 gigs is Overkill...

I've put my entire cd collection into iTunes -
12,562 songs. 62 gigabytes.

so for some people 40 gigs is overkill, and for some people it's not enough.

that's why there are different sizes people.

I know several people who are poised and ready to buy the 40 gig on day one :)

-Don
 
for all you confused about the size and weight of the new iPod to come. How bout reading the title and article that arn prepared for you.

"In terms of size requirements: the 30GB and 40GB are 8mm high (the same as the current 20GB drive) however, the new 20GB drive comes in at 5mm (same as the 5GB and 10GB drives)."

So if they use Toshiba's new 20GB drive it wil just as slim as the current 10GB one. and the 30GB and 40GB will be just as thick as the current 20Gb one. is that so confusing. hard drives come in all kinds of sizes. 5mm, 8mm, 9.5 mm, 12mm and so on. The "magic" is that companies like Toshiba continue to increase the number of bytes that each platter holds. this is how its always been.

Tyler
 
Originally posted by TyleRomeo
for all you confused about the size and weight of the new iPod to come. How bout reading the title and article that arn prepared for you.

"In terms of size requirements: the 30GB and 40GB are 8mm high (the same as the current 20GB drive) however, the new 20GB drive comes in at 5mm (same as the 5GB and 10GB drives)."

So if they use Toshiba's new 20GB drive it wil just as slim as the current 10GB one. and the 30GB and 40GB will be just as thick as the current 20Gb one. is that so confusing. hard drives come in all kinds of sizes. 5mm, 8mm, 9.5 mm, 12mm and so on. The "magic" is that companies like Toshiba continue to increase the number of bytes that each platter holds. this is how its always been.

Tyler
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Don't battle the trolls with logic.... ;)

j/k

It's all about the data density (MB/mm^2) :D
 
Originally posted by yzedf


Don't battle the trolls with logic.... ;)

j/k

It's all about the data density (MB/mm^2) :D
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hey it was worth a shot, the more educated we all get on here, the more we can help others.

Tyler
 
alienation

Originally posted by nuckinfutz


This logic is totally wrong. The speed limit in the US tops out at 70mph...why does your car go faster? FW800 has more benefits than just speed that could enhance the iPod. I expect to see FW800 on all new FW devices. The chipset isn't much more expensive from what I hear so there's really no harm.
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The only problem is you would alienate a lot of customers. Unless there was a way to add a FW800 port that could take advantage of FW800 capabilities while still being able to connect to a FW400 computer through some adapter or something (is this possible?).

So unless that's possible, the only new 17" powerbook and powermac owners will get to use it, which isn't very fun (or profitable). When the original iPod was released, apple had been putting out computers with FW400 for over 2 yrs. I believe.
 
Re: New 10GB, 20GB and 40GB Toshiba Drive Specs

Originally posted by Macrumors
Toshiba's FTP site provides documents on their hard drives... including the yet to be announced 20GB (updated), 30GB and 40GB 1.8" Hard Drives.
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Okay, this may be the obvious question but since these are "yet to be announced" drives can we REALLY expect Apple to update their iPod line so quickly?

Granted Apple gets a heads up before the consumers but didn't it take around 3 months from the time the 10 and 20GB drives were first released for the updated iPods to show up?

Allthough I really hope you're right, I'm curious as to why many people seem to think that iPod updates are going to be happening possiably tomorrow or in the comming weeks. Should't it take Apple a while?

If someone can explain tihs to me I'd appreciate it.

ALSO,

When i was on Apple's webpage checking the status of iPods I saw this intersting little guy:

FireCard400 - FireWire Card Bus Card (Windows Only)- The FireCard400 from Unibrain allows users to add FireWire technology to non-FireWire enabled Windows laptop computers. By inserting the IEEE 1394 compliant FireWire CardBus Card into the "type II" CardBus slot, laptops are able to connect to FireWire video and storage products, including iPod for windows.
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Could we see something like this for Mac and PC laptops that will add FW800 support?
 
Looks Like new FW800 iPods will work on Older Macs

Sorry to double post but I saw this too while searcing the Apple Store. Looks like IF they introduce a new FW800 iPod we all could use it with our older Macs if we were willing to shell out another $50 for the adapter. Here's the info...

Belkin 6-9 pin, FireWire 800 Cable

Belkin's new 9-pin to 6-pin FireWire cable will connect your 6-pin FireWire devices to your new 9-pin port on your Macintosh computer or it will connect to your 6-pin port on your computer to your new 9-pin device. With data transfer rates of up to 800Mbps (limited by device/port speed), the 9-pin to 6-pin FireWire Cable is the fastest way to connect your FireWire devices. Belkin's Signal Exact Twists technology ensures error-free data transfer, even at the highest data transmission rates!

Specifications:
Model Number: F3N404-14-APL
FireWire 9-pin to 6-pin, 14 ft
Fast data transfers with triple-shielded cabling, rated up to 800Mbps (limited by device/port speed)
Meets FireWire and 1394b specifications
Features Plug-and-Play, hot swap capability, so you can connect and disconnect devices without shutting down your computer
Reduces cross talk and ensures error-free data with our Signal Exact Twists(r) technology
Provides excellent conductivity using 24k gold-plated copper contacts
Offers flexible installation, movement, durability, and fit with our molded-strain relief construction
Lifetime Warranty

Belkin Corporation
501 West Walnut St.
Compton, CA 90220, USA
1-800-223-5546

www.belkin.com
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rumor from the osbournes on the new iPods . . .
supposedly, jack (or john, what ever the son's name is) was bragging on the show to his friend about how big his iPod was . . . a prototype 40GB!!! while his friend whined about his 64MB rio . . . HA!

puts my 20 to shame, and i thought 400 CDs would be enough storage for me :D

cdm
 
Originally posted by Thirteenva
my wallet is open and waiting, release the new ipod, i'm ready to buy......

:D
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I don't know. Since the video iPod will be a separate product I don't know if I need hardware upgrades. I can't fill the 5GB I have. I'm using more space using it as a backup device for "My Documents" on my PC.

I would like to see a software upgrade, the iPod really needs to be able to create playlists on the fly, sans PC or Mac.
 
bentmywookie

I don't understand why someone wouldn't want a faster interface such as FW800. How can it alienate someone? FW800 is downward compatible with FW400.
From what you wrote, do you think everyone should go back to dial-up since not everyone has ethernet capability built in?
We should have the best interface, regardless of who doesn't have it already. I can always buy an adapter card.
 
Re: The problem with larger drives...

Originally posted by MacRETARD
The problem is that iPods with these larger drives are going to weigh more. The 40 gig drive will weigh twice as much as the 20, and *8* times as much as the 5 gig iPod! I personally prefer the light weight.
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Accordign to Toshiba's data sheets, the new (larger capacity) drives are the same weight as the older drives.
 
Re: Re: New 10GB, 20GB and 40GB Toshiba Drive Specs

Originally posted by KLFloyd


Granted Apple gets a heads up before the consumers but didn't it take around 3 months from the time the 10 and 20GB drives were first released for the updated iPods to show up?
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Because the 5gig drive is smaller than the 20gig drive...so they need that extra time to redesign the case. This time, the 40gig has the same dimension (physical) as the current 20gig and the new 20gig drive is as big as the old 5 and 10 gig drive.

So Apple just pop them in the old enclosure...that is if they don't the a video display, as some of you mentioned, in the 40gig.

That's my guess.:D
 
i am for a 40 gb iPod. what i would wish (for apple's sake(?)) they continue to sell the 5 gb model for... i do not know... 99 dollars?

of course, it all depends on how much manufacturing the 5 gigs would cost.

sure there are people who think 30 or 40 gigs of songs is overkill. the battery won't even last to listen to all of those songs.
 
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