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New 24-Inch 4K Monitor Detailed on Dell's Website [Update: $1399]
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What are you talking about? Macbook Pro comes with NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M
and the iMac can be configured with NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780M 4GB GDDR5.
My Macbook Pro can run Bioshock Infinite on high settings better than my desktop pc with an AMD HD6850.
I would love a hi-res monitor, at least something to match the retina display.
For a lot of time at my desk I am no more than 3 ft away from my monitor. Running windows on a 1080p monitor is horrible, some applications barely have any space and everything is so big.
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+1 I can play Battlefield 4 and Need for speed rivals quiet contently. Granted I am not gaming maniac and am happy with low-medium settings
Just what I was waiting for! A 4K 24" monitor. I would have preferred a 16:10 aspect ratio and I worry about Dell's AG coating though. Hopefully ASUS will make a 24" 4K display.
At least they are slightly adjustable up and down, unlike Apple monitors. If you are over 6", you need to put it on a book or buy a booster stand for it, or throw the stand away and buy a complete VESA desktop mount for it.
Wow, 4K resolution is still only 185 pixels per inch even on a 24" display? That really doesn't seem as life changing as the Retina changeover on iOS devices.
Viewing distances aside, what makes Retina great on iOS devices is that you literally can't see pixels even when holding the display right up to your face. Seems like that requires at least the 264 ppi of the iPad Air to get that effect, with the 326 ppi of the iPhone and iPad Mini making it that much better.
Viewing distances aside, what makes Retina great on iOS devices is that you literally can't see pixels even when holding the display right up to your face. Seems like that requires at least the 264 ppi of the iPad Air to get that effect, with the 326 ppi of the iPhone and iPad Mini making it that much better.
The density of pixels per inch required to achieve "retina" quality decreases the farther you're meant to set away from the device. A 185 PPI television display might not seem too impressive when compared against the smaller iDevices, but when you consider the average viewing distance is at least 8 feet away...
Dell his two 4k right now the UP2714Q and the UP2414Q which they announce on the front page on macrumors.com if you go to dell.com and type in the search field up3214q you will see it there and the price for that is $3,499.99 so right now it pretty expensive.
It doesn't look that bad. I've seen worse from Dell.
I think some people are a little too focus on looks here. I care more about the inner stuff, looks come second. Course that's how Apple markets their products as of late. Sex sells.
They have the 32". The panels are IGZO LCD. That's something new.
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&cs=04&l=en&sku=210-ACBL
Disagree. At 27" or 30", 4K fails the retina test.
At 24" (23.8" to be more precise), the display qualifies as retina as long as the viewer sits 19" or closer. My eyes are average about 18" away from 27" Thunderbolt Display, so Dell's 24" 4K display barely qualifies as retina for me.
27" requires sitting 21" or closer, 30" requires sitting 23" or closer.
Since when have people used computer monitors 8ft away from them? I'd like a resolution like this in a 22" monitor even.
Guess you're gonna have to grin and bear it with a paltry 3840 x 2160 display until 8k becomes standard in 2025 or so.
Whoops. I thought we were talking about TVs. Yeah, you probably won't be more than 3-4 feet away from a monitor at max.
...though I'm thinking being saddled with a whole bunch of below retina quality displays are probably gonna be one of those things you won't care too much about once you have one sitting right in front of you.
Hopefully this is a sign that Apple might be soon be offering 4k displays.
Also a 30" option would be welcomed with a damn matte screen.
Also a 30" option would be welcomed with a damn matte screen.
still 60hz?
what are we, still in 90's?
They had 120Hz monitors in the 90's, you know.
...man, I love being a know-it-all. It's smarm-tastic!
We need 200 PPI or higher to achieve retina with large screen desktop monitor.
4K is destined for 21.5-inch iMac (205 PPI and 17" retina viewing distance) and 27-inch iMac and 27-inch Thunderbolt 2 Display will wait for 5120x2880 resolution panel (218 PPI and 16" retina viewing distance).
To everyone whining that it's too small...
Funny, I don't see the 24 inch version on the Dell Singapore website, but see a 31.5 inch version:
http://accessories.ap.dell.com/sna/...&cs=sgbsd1&l=en&s=bsd&sku=210-ACBX&redirect=1
The price is $4949 SGD (about $3950 USD, but this includes all taxes so base price in US should be lower)
If it's possible to extrapolate, Dell's 30" 4k vs HD price ratio is around 2.75, the current 24" HDs are around $300 USD, hopefully that means the 4k could come around the $1000 USD price point?
Considering I paid around $250 USD retail, I've been decently happy with my Dell S2440L, particularly the design is nice and clean. If their 24" 4k price is comparable to Apple's lower resolution 27" display, and they use the same display panel supplier, why would I go with the Apple display? Apple needs to get going and release their version (hopefully in two sizes since I, for one, don't need, or want to pay for a 27-30"+ display)
Funny, I don't see the 24 inch version on the Dell Singapore website, but see a 31.5 inch version:
http://accessories.ap.dell.com/sna/...&cs=sgbsd1&l=en&s=bsd&sku=210-ACBX&redirect=1
The price is $4949 SGD (about $3950 USD, but this includes all taxes so base price in US should be lower)
If it's possible to extrapolate, Dell's 30" 4k vs HD price ratio is around 2.75, the current 24" HDs are around $300 USD, hopefully that means the 4k could come around the $1000 USD price point?
Considering I paid around $250 USD retail, I've been decently happy with my Dell S2440L, particularly the design is nice and clean. If their 24" 4k price is comparable to Apple's lower resolution 27" display, and they use the same display panel supplier, why would I go with the Apple display? Apple needs to get going and release their version (hopefully in two sizes since I, for one, don't need, or want to pay for a 27-30"+ display)
Actually, there is no qualification for what constitutes a retina display other than not being able to discern any pixels from a standard viewing distance.
200 PPI monitors would be nice, no doubt. But it's not something I see happening in the next 3-4 years at least. The cost alone would be outrageously high. I could see it happening with a Thunderbolt display here in the near future, but you wouldn't see an iMac sporting one anytime soon. 4k standard? Yeah. Anything more than that? Not for a bit.
Well, sitting at my desk, my viewing distance from my 13" Retina MacBook Pro at 227 ppi isn't that much different than what my viewing distance would be with a 24" 4K display. In fact, I'd sit upright in my desk chair regardless. So 185 ppi is a decent amount less than 227 ppi.
While I'm sure it would be really nice, I don't see it as dramatic of a jump as other Apple displays that have switched to Retina resolutions. And if they raise the cost on the back of the 4K marketing term revolution, it doesn't seem like it would be worth it over the 109 ppi 2560x1440 27" Thunderbolt Display/iMac.
It's only a productivity tool, not like you'd be looking at it all day.. Oh, wait...
Seriously though, if Apple made a 24" retina it would be glossy and thus not an option I'd consider. I'd still prefer this even if it's ugly and/or has an overly bright blue LED I have to tape off to avoid headaches, like my current screen.
I'd love a 24" 4K for coding, text is just so much clearer on a retina display. On a 27" at 4K that effect wouldn't really be there I think.
Still this thing is clearly aimed at graphics pros with its 10-bit colours. I doubt it will cost less than a Mac Pro. But at least these screens are coming to market now and it's only a matter if time until cheaper (and hopefully more beautiful) models appear.
Now all we really need is 4K content. Sure that looks like a great monitor, and Dell's tend to be competitively priced too, but without a lot more 4K Ultra HD son tent, it's not going to make a great deal of difference...except for looking better than my iMac
We don't need 4K content to start -- this monitor will help create more 4K content.
This monitor is not for playing games.
Some content is already at 4K. This should help create more. It isn't for playing games.
Exactly. This isn't for playing games.
16:10 -- 3840x2400 -- would be better. 27" would be better. A true matte screen would be better.
For your eyes, maybe. Just wait till your eyes get older. I would prefer 30". And anyway, why does it have to be "retina" at minimum distance? I would rather just sit a little further away from a larger display.