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Haha 24" inch monitor how cute for those still living in 2004. When Apple does 4k they will do it at 27" minimum. Sorry Dell nobody wants this.

Haha this is a monitor NOT a TV. To me 21" is the best size to work with on a monitor.
 
Any guesses when we will see 60hz and 120hz 4k monitors? :D

Also can Thunderbolt 2 or any other interface drive a 4K monitor at 60hz or 120hz? I know TB2 can do 30hz at 4k...
 
I think they're going to rationalise their computer lines next year with all new designs as follows:

New 12" Retina MBA to replace current 11" & 13" models
New 14" & 16" Retina MBPs to replace current 13" & 15" models

New 20" iMac to replace Mac Mini
New 24" & 28" Retina iMac to replace current models

New 24" & 28" Cinema displays to replace the current 27" model

That effectively reduces their computer line up to 2 laptop and 2 desktop brands with 3 size/spec options for each brand

20" iMac to replace a Mac Mini?? A mini with decent graphics would be better. I don't like glossy screens
 
Apple's 27" displays are already 2/3 of those pixel dimensions. 2560 vs. 3840. I'd want a bigger jump!

It may not be possible/practical, but I'd want a doubling to 5120 if I could get it.
 
sorry but Dell = Cheap

Our company uses Dell hardware and I'm always amazed how mediocre the product is.
 
Just be aware that it's got an anti-glare Hard Coating 3H. I had a Dell Ultrasharp U2212HM screen with that coating and it's definitely a Marmite moment. I hated it. Made the whites look extremely grainy. So I sent it back for a Dell S2240M which was perfect and a great match for the screen on my 21.5" iMac.

I would hate to have a great 4K resolution obscured by such an aggressive hard coating. I'd want to see it up close before buying.
 
32" one for 3500$, actually this might be worth it if it's a decent monitor and OS X supports 60Hz through DP 1.2.
 
Two of the most important words in this rumor: "anti" and "glare"!!

Now if only Apple would follow the same path, at least as an option, I would indeed include the new "4K thunderbolt/cinema" display on my x-mas wish list. ;)

Yes!

Sadly, the Dell UP2414Q anti-glare is "hard coat". I prefer matte. But, all the same, I will take it over a glossy display any day.
 
This is awesome news. Even though I'm not going to buy one, it paves the way for prices of 4K monitors to drop. Hopefully we see a 4K Thunderbolt Display soon enough.
 
:rolleyes: Dells have actually been really great monitors for a lot of years. They're not as pretty as the ACDs, but they're definitely not horrid looking and offer more bang for your buck.

Oh I agree about the quality. But god are they ugly.
 
There is so much FUD going on here. Not sure if it's just because it's a Dell monitor, or people just don't see the point of 4K, or that people don't read up on tech news outside of the Apple sandbox...

Dell monitors aren't cheap. Nor are they made cheaply. All of Dell's UltraSharp line (their highest end) either feature LG panels (the same exact ones as in Apple cinema displays), or the new IGZO panels by Sharp. If a developer or artist worth their salt isn't using an Apple display, rest assured they are most likely using a Dell UltraSharp or NEC SpectraView of some kind due to their quality, fidelity, and ergonomics.

It's also largely agreed in the tech community that Dell has one of the best OSDs (on screen displays) used for calibrating in the business. As for overall aesthetics, well, as a U2713H owner I can say that Dell's monitors are probably some of the most clean, spartan, and elegant outside of Apple. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder though, as they say.

All of Dell's current UltraSharp offerings feature a 'soft' anti glare hardcoating. It's produced by 3M, and is the same anti-glare coating currently used by most other monitor manufacturers. Technically, it's a semi-gloss, but it works very well and the image is nice and clear. Any talk of aggressive and grainy anti-glare coating was from 3M's previous batch of coating which was applied to manufacturers' monitors in 2010, 2011, and some of 2012.

4K is coming whether people think it should or not. Really, it's not up to any of you to tell the rest of us that we don't need a 4K display. Buyers are the arbiters of their own wants and needs. That said, a 3840x2160 resolution on a 24" display? Sign me up. Contrary to comments made here, current $300+ graphics cards from either AMD or NVIDIA can easily do 4K, whether it's design or gaming. It's not up for debate; it's been tested on respected tech sites already. I wouldn't consider $300-$400 'high end'... more like middle of the road. High end would be NVIDIA's $1000 Titan for gaming, or their more pricier Quadro options. That's not to say Intel's integrated graphics options wouldn't struggle, but that it a downside for not having a discrete GPU.

DisplayPort can handle 4K@60Hz; the more important caveat lies with HDMI, which at 1.4 can only handle 4K@30Hz. HDMI 2.0 will take of that, and it's almost here.
 
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Haha this is a monitor NOT a TV. To me 21" is the best size to work with on a monitor.

21.5" and 27" are the perfect sizes. That is why Apple offers iMac in both these configurations. But for a standalone monitor you really should go 27" which is why I think it's strange Apple sells a smaller monitor. 27" is the only size I would offer for a standalone monitor. 24" is a stupid size nobody wants but no surprise that's what Dell tries to sell to uninterested consumers.
 
21.5" and 27" are the perfect sizes. That is why Apple offers iMac in both these configurations. But for a standalone monitor you really should go 27" which is why I think it's strange Apple sells a smaller monitor. 27" is the only size I would offer for a standalone monitor. 24" is a stupid size nobody wants but no surprise that's what Dell tries to sell to uninterested consumers.

So 24" is a stupid size yet it's been a common monitor size for quite a while now. oh, because Apple says it's a dumb size because they don't offer it? C'mon, get your head out of Apple's ass. 24" is a great size for a monitor, especially for those of us who have multiple monitor setups (3 in my case).
 
sorry but Dell = Cheap

Our company uses Dell hardware and I'm always amazed how mediocre the product is.

Perhaps it's not Dell, it's your company that is cheap? Dell does offer hardware that is better and more expensive than Macs your company just prefers their cheaper offerings (nothing wrong with that though).

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21.5" and 27" are the perfect sizes. That is why Apple offers iMac in both these configurations. But for a standalone monitor you really should go 27" which is why I think it's strange Apple sells a smaller monitor. 27" is the only size I would offer for a standalone monitor. 24" is a stupid size nobody wants but no surprise that's what Dell tries to sell to uninterested consumers.

There is no such thing as "perfect size" (otherwise iPhone would still have 3.5" screen). It depends on what you do with the display. And Dell (unlike Apple) offers all sizes possible which is greatly appreciated by their customers.
 
Any guesses when we will see 60hz and 120hz 4k monitors? :D

Now if use DisplayPort 1.2 and the associated MST technology.

" ...
, as DisplayPort 1.2 can drive a 3840x2160 screen at 60 Hz ... "
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7157/asus-pq321q-ultrahd-4k-monitor-review

Technically it is two screen data streams tightly coupled from the outside.

" ... This is because there are no timing controllers on the market that are capable of doing 4k@60hz, so Sharp worked around this by including two controllers that can do 1920x2160@60hz, and built in a Displayport 1.2 MST hub into the monitor. ... "
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?p=35497754

So folks looking for a monitor that will do 4K 60Hz via HDMI ... no go right now with what is on market. 2nd half 2014 for HDMI update to roll out in any reasonable sized numbers.

Likewise anyone with a GPU card that doesn't implement DisplayPort v1.2 options is also likely out of luck.

If talking single stream decoders in the monitor then going to be coupled the well HDMI does/doesn't roll out in 2014 as to when they will eventually show up.




Also can Thunderbolt 2 or any other interface drive a 4K monitor at 60hz or 120hz? I know TB2 can do 30hz at 4k...

Thunderbolt 2 controllers do DisplayPort v1.2 in the bypass ("backward compatibility" ) mode. Can also pump 60Hz of 4K data in Thunderbolt encoding also ( which is decoded back into DP v1.2 at the terminating device on TB network ). However, will have basically used up vast majority of the TB v2.0 bandwidth. Nothing else is going to get much bandwidth (have about a USB 3.0 socket or so left ).
 
I'm surprised all of the ppi nazis on this forum aren't saying the ppi is too low and they would rather use their smartphone as their primary monitor.
 
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