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caccamolle said:
I am a realist...long past the "political correct" bs that is hurting us big time....

political correctness is one thing, saying things like what you said is another.
 
It would have been better, in my opinion, if Apple release a (Product) Red 30 GB iPod for $250. It would have given a wider range of options.
 
Its not showing uo on aus store, neither is the red 4GB....

does anyone know if the red 4GB ws ever on the aus store?

No, the (Product) RED charity doesn't yet exist down here, I'm hoping Bono decides to launch it whilst he's here touring with U2 but so far no word.

So, no charity = no RED iPod nano.
 
can it play the games that apple has on the itunes store ? that'd be smart.

Who cares about africa, it's a lost cause anyway, and the best help they can get is no help. They blame the western world anyway for all the crap that they are in ! In spite of billions and billions of dollars of aid over decades after decades, Africa, generally (it's a big continent!), regresses. Sad but true.

Anyhow, it's a nobel, albeit useless, move by Apple. It looks cute. It's all marketing.

Those donations aren't going to Africa. They're going to help provide drugs that help prolong the life of people with AIDS. I can guarantee Africa would be in better shape if there weren't such a huge percent of the population with AIDS. Think of all the orphans growing up with AIDS, whose parents have died of AIDS. I'm the least politically correct person I know, and I would never say such a callous thing. If you don't want Africa to get monetary aid that's a different matter and may be a correct view, but saying we should ignore an entire continent and choose not to help people with a disease is a different matter.
 
can it play the games that apple has on the itunes store ? that'd be smart.

Who cares about africa, it's a lost cause anyway, and the best help they can get is no help. They blame the western world anyway for all the crap that they are in ! In spite of billions and billions of dollars of aid over decades after decades, Africa, generally (it's a big continent!), regresses. Sad but true.

Anyhow, it's a nobel, albeit useless, move by Apple. It looks cute. It's all marketing.

Wow, MUST ACTIVATE STUPIDITY SHIELD!
 
Those donations aren't going to Africa. They're going to help provide drugs that help prolong the life of people with AIDS. I can guarantee Africa would be in better shape if there weren't such a huge percent of the population with AIDS. Think of all the orphans growing up with AIDS, whose parents have died of AIDS. I'm the least politically correct person I know, and I would never say such a callous thing. If you don't want Africa to get monetary aid that's a different matter and may be a correct view, but saying we should ignore an entire continent and choose not to help people with a disease is a different matter.

and why is it that in Africa such a huge % of the population has AIDS ??? think guys, think. It ain't about AIDS. I've got nothing against compassion or pity, but trust me, it solves no real problem. It makes some feel better, that, I understand. But that is all.

Anyway, I have to stop this since it's got nothing to do really with this thread or this place at all !
 
and why is it that in Africa such a huge % of the population has AIDS ??? think guys, think. It ain't about AIDS. I've got nothing against compassion or pity, but trust me, it solves no real problem. It makes some feel better, that, I understand. But that is all.

Anyway, I have to stop this since it's got nothing to do really with this thread or this place at all !

I don't get it? Are you a conspiracy theorist?
 
Grumble. I've resisted saying it until now, but I am dissapointed by RED. I don't mind the potential for self-satified trendyness, like armstrong bracelets. I don't mind the buisness plan for companies, getting good publicity and a competitive advantage for less money than other routes to the same. And I certainly don't mind charity. In fact, I think this scheme is brilliant, absolutely fantastic. Everybody benefits in a truly easy way to help the world.

But there's always a but, isn't there. It is absolutely ludicrous to talk about AIDS and not talk about prevention. It's a terminal disease, no matter what the medication (and they aren't funding looking for a cure) -- and don't try to help people not get it? It's obvious why Product RED takes a treatment stance -- AIDS is an STI, and prevention means talking about sex, and some people are greatly offended by this, even when it means saving lives. Which, of course, makes for poor business.

To let a few dogmatic extremists destroy efforts to solve one of the largest problems in the history of the human race is spineless and abhorrant.

Sadly, if apple releases a new RED product tomorrow we will not be able to talk with virtue about helping the destitute, but will find that the greatest meaning will probably be to apple's bottom line. Sure, antiretrovirals increase quality of life, but with the miniscule contributions, the cost of the drugs, the ability of the virus to adapt to the drugs, and most importantly, the complete lack of any reduction in infection rate, but in fact an increase with antiretrovirals, the main effect outside of apple's bottom line will be to give people the false impression that they have helped solve a tragic problem.
Well, antiretrovirals do actually significantly reduce the vertical transmission of HIV from infected pregnant women to their unborn children, so they are an important means of prevention of AIDS in the next generation of Africans.
 
Well, antiretrovirals do actually significantly reduce the vertical transmission of HIV from infected pregnant women to their unborn children, so they are an important means of prevention of AIDS in the next generation of Africans.

I can only hope so, and there is indeed hope that progress on this particular front will be achieved, and sure, it is good (could it be bad ?).
 
I don't get it? Are you a conspiracy theorist?

I would not suggest that you don't get it, sorry if it sounded that way :)
But I sometimes can't help but invite people to consider outside of the box and no, w/o falling into the fantasies of conspiracy theories.

And how about them games !? my guess is that no, the red nanos are not compatible.
 
Its not showing uo on aus store, neither is the red 4GB....

does anyone know if the red 4GB ws ever on the aus store?

Nope it wasn't, but I just bought a 4GB version from the Hong Kong online Apple store (parents live there) and want to now sell it to get an 8GB version...

Contact me if I can be of some assistance to you...
 
No, the (Product) RED charity doesn't yet exist down here, I'm hoping Bono decides to launch it whilst he's here touring with U2 but so far no word.

So, no charity = no RED iPod nano.

The concert is tomorrow isn't it, hopefully he'll make an announcement then ?
 
Who's getting the money?

Those donations aren't going to Africa. They're going to help provide drugs that help prolong the life of people with AIDS...

So let's get this straight. Africa is not getting the money. The drug companies who make AIDS drugs are... (like the drug companies are sooo poor).

So the outcome:

Instead of getting to the root cause of WHY they're getting AIDS and stopping it, we are going to let them KEEP getting AIDS and give them medications to reduce the symptoms... (maybe cure it, but only AFTER they get it).

Sounds like the standard medical/drug farce if you ask me....
 
Well, I bought an 8GB one in Manhattan yesterday. I <3 it. I've always wanted a red iPod, ever since I bought my mini years ago. :)

-Matt
 
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