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Grumble. I've resisted saying it until now, but I am dissapointed by RED. I don't mind the potential for self-satified trendyness, like armstrong bracelets. I don't mind the buisness plan for companies, getting good publicity and a competitive advantage for less money than other routes to the same. And I certainly don't mind charity. In fact, I think this scheme is brilliant, absolutely fantastic. Everybody benefits in a truly easy way to help the world.

But there's always a but, isn't there. It is absolutely ludicrous to talk about AIDS and not talk about prevention. It's a terminal disease, no matter what the medication (and they aren't funding looking for a cure) -- and don't try to help people not get it? It's obvious why Product RED takes a treatment stance -- AIDS is an STI, and prevention means talking about sex, and some people are greatly offended by this, even when it means saving lives. Which, of course, makes for poor business.

To let a few dogmatic extremists destroy efforts to solve one of the largest problems in the history of the human race is spineless and abhorrant.

Sadly, if apple releases a new RED product tomorrow we will not be able to talk with virtue about helping the destitute, but will find that the greatest meaning will probably be to apple's bottom line. Sure, antiretrovirals increase quality of life, but with the miniscule contributions, the cost of the drugs, the ability of the virus to adapt to the drugs, and most importantly, the complete lack of any reduction in infection rate, but in fact an increase with antiretrovirals, the main effect outside of apple's bottom line will be to give people the false impression that they have helped solve a tragic problem.
 
But there's always a but, isn't there. It is absolutely ludicrous to talk about AIDS and not talk about prevention.

All the proposals being funded are listed in detail on the Global Fund web site. Education and training are being addressed with this money along with treatment -- and as always, this fund isn't concentrated only on HIV. It's all there to see what is really being done with the money.
 
hope it's only a red iPod and nothing significant

Great.... I hope it's just a red iPod or nothing significant.

I pulled the trigger and ordered a 5.5 gen 30 gig video iPod on the night of 10/31/06 to get for $219 after $30 rebate at PC/Mac Connection since that's the day the rebate expires.

Of course, Murphy's Law is that they've extended the rebate another month...
 
they cant release a new product just yet

the new ipod shuffle's are in control of the apple.com front page now... the webmasters would be awfully tee'd if all their hard work with a new front page only lived one day before being replaced...
i say, they come out with a true video ipod and maybe some other RED product next tuesday 11.7...
and i know, this isnt the place or time, but gosh darnit i just cant help myself... c2d MB 11.14...
then... THEN

Happy shoppings to all... err.. happy holidays to all
 
8 gb

apple just released product red ipod nano in 8 gb. Go to the apple store online and see for yourselves. it says " now available 8 gb"
 
Yup. 8 gb RED nano, but you can't buy it yet. I see the ad on the front page but only the 4 gb on the buy now page. I'll give it a couple of minutes.
 
All the proposals being funded are listed in detail on the Global Fund web site. Education and training are being addressed with this money along with treatment -- and as always, this fund isn't concentrated only on HIV. It's all there to see what is really being done with the money.

Hmm, interesting. I followed the link to http://www.joinred.com/manifesto.asp which I found deeply dissapointing. So is product RED only advertizing the PR safe antiretrovirals, but funding wider projects by the global fund?
 
Hmm, interesting. I followed the link to http://www.joinred.com/manifesto.asp which I found deeply dissapointing. So is product RED only advertizing the PR safe antiretrovirals, but funding wider projects by the global fund?

Yeah, the red site (and the whole campaign that goes with it) is all about edgy-looking marketing. There are mentions of the less "exciting" diseases and aspects of the fund buried in the site, but apparently they decided to gloss over that because it wouldn't all fit into sound bites suitable for flashy merchandise.

FWIW, Bono has been frank about this all being a gimmick to grab some cash for the Global Fund from people who don't necessarily give a damn about all the details. I think it may be a mistake to soft-pedal the TB and malaria, I'd think that promoting more of the details might get more sales from the "AIDS is their own damned fault" camp.
 
i was wrong... aint nothing gonna steal the thunda from 2G ipod shuffle.... 8gb red nano, but its very discreet!!
on a side note, did any one think 2GB ipod shuffle first time they saw that MR post when it said 2G ipod shuffle??
 
8GB nano! Now my girlfriend is going to be excited!


i was wrong... aint nothing gonna steal the thunda from 2G ipod shuffle.... 8gb red nano, but its very discreet!!
on a side note, did any one think 2GB ipod shuffle first time they saw that MR post when it said 2G ipod shuffle??
Many people misinterpreted 2G with 2GB in the threads despite clarifications.
 
I wonder if the 8gb RED nano will show up black in iTunes...


Bet it won't for long, even if it might do initially!

Damn, if I'd waited a few weeks, would have gone for the 8 GB model. Oh well the 4 Gigger will do for everyday use, and will get a viPod when it comes out.
Along with G5 Powerbooks....wonder when THEY are going to appear..????

Altogether now..

A one, a two, a one, two three four...NEXT TUESDAY!
 
Wow! Good call, MacRumors. This was the only site that picked up on this, and they did so perfectly. Hopefully this is just one of the original <confirmed> rumors that will appear here.
 
Damnit... I bought a 4GB version earlier this week from the online store in Hong Kong. Do you reckon I can trade up, it's unopened, and upgrade to an 8GB version with some additional funds.

Or just return saying it wasn't what I wanted and then buy an 8GB version instead ?

I've only had it for about 3 days and haven't even opened it yet. I have seen others have traded-up before. How would I go about it ?
 
I bet they released an 8GB RED version since no one was willing to pay the premium for black this time. I don't know about you guys, but almost everyone I know was like, "wait, why are the 8GB nano and the 30 GB iPod the same price? what a rip!"

By releasing a RED 8GB they can probably sell more of them and get rid of some of that extra 8GB flash memory they have sitting around.
 
I bet they released an 8GB RED version since no one was willing to pay the premium for black this time. I don't know about you guys, but almost everyone I know was like, "wait, why are the 8GB nano and the 30 GB iPod the same price? what a rip!"

By releasing a RED 8GB they can probably sell more of them and get rid of some of that extra 8GB flash memory they have sitting around.

Anyone who says that is an idiot. Flash is clearly more expensive than hard drives. So i ask how is it a rip? Are you not looking at other companies charging the same prices as HD based players and flash players with less capacity?

How silly.

And there is no 'premium' for black. You clearly get 4GB more storage with the black over the middle models. Not to mention only $50 more. That small amount get you twice the space and the beloved black. I am sure most buying it want the space though.
 
Anyone who says that is an idiot. Flash is clearly more expensive than hard drives. So i ask how is it a rip? Are you not looking at other companies charging the same prices as HD based players and flash players with less capacity?

I sort of agree ... I think the 8 GB pricing is fine but it's unfortunate that the best color options are at 4 GB (because I don't particularly belove black). This does help... I was actually sort of thinking of getting a red Nano.... :)
 
I sort of agree ... I think the 8 GB pricing is fine but it's unfortunate that the best color options are at 4 GB (because I don't particularly belove black). This does help... I was actually sort of thinking of getting a red Nano.... :)

I'm in the same boat. I had the black iPod but I hated it minus the fact that it was 8GB. So I got a blue iPod in exchange (with some money back of course), but now this is appealing, although blue is still my favourite colour.
 
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