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New 27-Inch 5K Display From Dell Rekindles Thoughts of Retina iMacs
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IMO, 5K is neither here nor there. 4K is pretty much mainstream and broadcasters are already testing 8K (NHK, Direct TV etc). AFAIK, Sony and Red will have 8K cameras in the near future. Sharp and Panasonic have 8K TVs. Seems like 8K will be here before too long.
My favorite part....
My favorite part is when the announcer says "I don't even know where you're getting 5k video". Which basically makes this a non-important event.
4k isn't barely mainstream on the consumer level yet, its still too expensive for the masses. Its getting closer, I'll admit it, but its not just yet there.
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My favorite part is when the announcer says "I don't even know where you're getting 5k video". Which basically makes this a non-important event.
4k isn't barely mainstream on the consumer level yet, its still too expensive for the masses. Its getting closer, I'll admit it, but its not just yet there.
Chris
5K is what you need on 27" panels for pixel doubling and Apple's current panel and biggest iMac is 27", so 5K matters a lot for Apple users. I have been avoiding 4K exactly because I want true pixel doubling on my 27" space.
4K is only relevant for the 24" panels.
Damn this could be an expensive few months - I'm ready and waiting to upgrade my iPhone AND iPad, and also hoping they'll announce a 4K iMac. Not to mention the iWatch - if they do announce one, I daresay I'd find it just too hard to resist. So I'm stoked for Tuesday, but my wallet isn't
Take all that money and buy Apple stocks instead.
Because almost nobody has (still photo) cameras with 16 MP or more. Not.
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Because consumers use their computer monitors mainly for watching (or editing) video and not much else.
I don't understand people saying what would you do with a monitor that is 5k,8k, etc... I don't know about those people but I'm not using my monitors for watching TV, higher resolution means better pixel density and either a clearer display (like retina display at regular settings) or a larger desktop that can display more concurrent windows, etc. or heck if you are editing a 1080p video it might be nice to show that in full res while editing and still have workspace for tools, timeline, etc. heard my people say why would you need more resolution is like hearing people ask what you would do with faster wifi when it's faster than your internet connection. both statements are shortsighted.
Have you been an Apple user for a long time? Mac users are used to paying $4000 for the original 22" Apple Cinema Display when it first came out.
Well 8k is already out in testing. Japan and the UK have been playing with it for a while and were looking to jump 4k altogether.
just watching this video alone shows the amazing quality of this panel as watching this recording I could swear it was direct source.
pricey but awesome.
just watching this video alone shows the amazing quality of this panel as watching this recording I could swear it was direct source.
pricey but awesome.
I agree. I mean, look at the current mac lineup. The only computers with 4k support at 60hz are the 15" rMBP and Mac Pro. I wouldn't call it mainstream until you can get an IPS 4k monitor for $500 and every mac supports 4k.
the real question is....
sorry not really wanting to comb through 14 pages of comments but my thoughts are really.... WHY is a NEW (stylish, and I was impressed getting to play with it before the announcement) MOTO watch comes out AND NOW a 27" 5K display deciding to be announced by the respective companies hours before Apple's show?
I think the DISPLAY is the big announcement. NOT the WATCH. and definitely NOT the iPhone.
sorry not really wanting to comb through 14 pages of comments but my thoughts are really.... WHY is a NEW (stylish, and I was impressed getting to play with it before the announcement) MOTO watch comes out AND NOW a 27" 5K display deciding to be announced by the respective companies hours before Apple's show?
I think the DISPLAY is the big announcement. NOT the WATCH. and definitely NOT the iPhone.
I saw a Sony 4K TV yesterday at Best Buy that had 4K video being displayed... and it's really a step up from 1080p (not that 1080p is bad, it's quite amazing vs what we used to have with 480i !), but that being said, it's not worth rushing out to get it now before there is real programming available for it.
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There are some 4K TV's that cost 4 x 5K !
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There are some 4K TV's that cost 4 x 5K !
I personally think the current 27" iMac screen resolution is good enough for 95% of folks at 2560 x 1440. You need a very high end video card to push the pixels for 4k screens. 5k seems ridiculous and think we need to standardize on 4k first. I think we need another 2-3 years for video cards to get more powerful and cheaper at the same time to make 4k more feasible/economical. Just my 2 cents...
That's what I meant by "interface". How the computer interfaces with the display.
I suspect that once all of the elements of the display are assembled, it is a relatively simple task to changes from DP1.2 to DP1.3. The guts of the display probably remain the same, only the cable and maybe some ICs change. So there isn't a lot of wasted effort in using the current interface.
If DP1.3 is almost final, then we're probably a few months from that, then a few months for the standard to make it through manufacturers, then a few years before there's a significant installed base.
Getting this display out before waiting for the spec to even finalize is probably worth a lot of money and prestige to Dell.
Seeing as my 20" Samsung CRT just died, forcing me to use an old Samsung LCD (that can't match the resolution of my CRT, or even provide the color gamut & contrast ratio of a dithered GIF image), leaving me with nothing for photography and crap for gaming... This is interesting news. I've been waiting for higher PPI displays for almost two decades. It took till iPhone 4 for any company to actually go there, and then six(?) more years for a small computer display to do it (MacBook Pros)... How much longer will I have to wait for at least a 20" high-PPI display to plug into the Mac Pro I want to buy, and how much debt will I have to get into to have one?
Since my CRT died, and I've seen how unsuitable for skin tones my old Samsung LCD is (and its resolution sucks, 1280 x 900), I have nothing to process my photos on. A 13" MacBook Pro 5,5 is not nearly large enough and surely LCD gamut and contrast ratio has improved some since then???
CRTs were blurry, hot, heavy, and wasted space, but they produced lots of color and had true blacks. WTF are we getting back to that with LCD? Ever? Pure LED displays (can LEDs be made that small?) and OLED aren't capable if it, at any sane price (even for professionals). I've been waiting for the display quality downgrade of the LCD industry to come up to near CRT quality for ages now. Still waiting.
How do professional photographers actually work with LCD?? No true blacks. CRT exceeded print, but LCD is inferior to it. WAH!!!
Since my CRT died, and I've seen how unsuitable for skin tones my old Samsung LCD is (and its resolution sucks, 1280 x 900), I have nothing to process my photos on. A 13" MacBook Pro 5,5 is not nearly large enough and surely LCD gamut and contrast ratio has improved some since then???
CRTs were blurry, hot, heavy, and wasted space, but they produced lots of color and had true blacks. WTF are we getting back to that with LCD? Ever? Pure LED displays (can LEDs be made that small?) and OLED aren't capable if it, at any sane price (even for professionals). I've been waiting for the display quality downgrade of the LCD industry to come up to near CRT quality for ages now. Still waiting.
How do professional photographers actually work with LCD?? No true blacks. CRT exceeded print, but LCD is inferior to it. WAH!!!
Fair enough! I had no idea. Sounds pretty interesting.
I was super anti-glossy displays because as a photographer it's more accurate to work on matte displays. However, at this point everyone's got a glossy display so it makes sense to edit on the same display people are viewing your work.
Why? 5K has been coined "Retina". We now need not to evolve display technology because no one will see the difference and everything above 5K is ridiculous and is for 'bragging rights'.
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Aha. It was my attempt at sarcasm. I can't even afford 4K, never mind 8K. Someone on here was going on about how 5K will be mainstream in "two years" but, as far as I can see, 4K is barely even in stores yet.
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I think one thing Apple need to work on is their pricing. They need to make sure all of their products are realistically priced. It was okay bumping prices a bit when they were still growing, but as the most valuable company in the world sitting on billions in spare cash, they can afford to drop prices now. You can see be a 'premium' product vendor and have reasonable prices. I'm really hoping we don't see a massive price hike in the iPhone, I'll be so disappointed.
The high DPI is the point
I don't care per se that it is 5K, as there is barely even any 4K content. Trying to use that resolution on a 27" monitor is going to make for super tiny text.
I think the more important part is the 218 DPI. This baby is going to look super duper clear and crisp at ANY resolution.
I don't care per se that it is 5K, as there is barely even any 4K content. Trying to use that resolution on a 27" monitor is going to make for super tiny text.
I think the more important part is the 218 DPI. This baby is going to look super duper clear and crisp at ANY resolution.