4.5 inch Moto E isn't much lager than 4 inch iPhone. It is just tad bigger and heavier than iPhone. There are many smaller Android smartphone has similar size as 4 inch iPhone, but with larger screen.
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4.5 inch Moto E isn't much lager than 4 inch iPhone. It is just tad bigger and heavier than iPhone. There are many smaller Android smartphone has similar size as 4 inch iPhone, but with larger screen.
I am just throwing it out there, but I absolutely hate the ip6 size. Its impossible for my marfan fingers to reach the entire screen without moving the phone in my hand. I loved the 5c size but performance was marginal. the 5s was perfect size and weight. I can not fit my ip6 in my pocket comfortably. I can not drive my car with my phone in my pocket.
my 4s was great but hard to see the doing anything really. I think a 5s sized phone with 6s features and performance would be a perfect fit.
my 4s was great but hard to see the doing anything really. I think a 5s sized phone with 6s features and performance would be a perfect fit.
Only if it's basically a small iPhone 6. Otherwise people will take issue as they want a flagship smallphone.
A 4" iPhone has a smaller battery. Add the flagship specs, including more RAM and other tech and you'll have dramatically worse battery life than the 6/6s, which people already whine about. If the demand is there to justify the expense and guarantees and healthy profit margin, Apple will release as near a flagship equivalent 4" iPhone as possible while keeping battery life as good or better than the 5S. Until battery tech improves be happy they are even offering this option. Rest assured it'll be better than the 5S, which is still an excellent phone.
More RAM doesn't decrease battery life. It actually increases battery life. For example, when multiple tabs are open in Safari, Safari will have to refresh pages far less. Also, during certain other tasks, the CPU and flash storage can be utilized less if there is more RAM, thus using less electricity, thus increasing battery life.
Hahahaha. Remember when people swore black and blue that anything bigger than 4" is too big? Didn't want to be seen holding a slab to their heads? Apple will be wrong twice if they think only the aged and infirm will be happy with a gimped 4-incher, after originally thinking those were the only people who would want anything bigger.
Yeah I've heard that before. So maybe I don't know what I want and if I just got the Plus I would grow to love it. When i think about it, it doesn't make sense. But I've seen friends have the same response. Maybe for the 7 I will just force myself to go big. I can keep carrying my BBRY Z10 for one hand use anyway.
It's kinda interesting to read all this "Apple is cool"-hype here. I assume here in Europe it's starting to shift. I work at a uni and just passed by a lot of students (from very different subjects) working and looked at what devices they had:
90% had a MacBook
50% or less had an iPhone, 90% of those were 4's or 5's, I saw only one 6 (or 6S, hard to tell from distance). And it was mostly girls that had iPhones, and mostly 4/4S.
I'm pretty sure the iPhone has "lost it's hype" here. It's a mum-and-dad-phone now and the kids have moved on to something else, mostly Android, but I see a rise in Windows Phone.
It's a bit like Facebook, not for young people anymore, only moms and dads.
I really think that "peak iPhone" has occurred and we will see more elaborate efforts from Apple to maintain the impression that there are record sales every time they release a new phone. Expansion in China, India and perhaps Africa? will be crucial to Apples continued sales records.
90% had a MacBook
50% or less had an iPhone, 90% of those were 4's or 5's, I saw only one 6 (or 6S, hard to tell from distance). And it was mostly girls that had iPhones, and mostly 4/4S.
I'm pretty sure the iPhone has "lost it's hype" here. It's a mum-and-dad-phone now and the kids have moved on to something else, mostly Android, but I see a rise in Windows Phone.
It's a bit like Facebook, not for young people anymore, only moms and dads.
I really think that "peak iPhone" has occurred and we will see more elaborate efforts from Apple to maintain the impression that there are record sales every time they release a new phone. Expansion in China, India and perhaps Africa? will be crucial to Apples continued sales records.
You make a good point, the types of phones I would expect to see at a uni are cheap android phones, not expensive idevices.
Except 90% of the students have MacBook Retinas and Airs, and they are a lot more expensive than an iPhone. Here, an iPhone 6S with 24 months contract is only $562 and an 13" Air starts at $1300!
There's been many polls showing the interest is much stronger than the 5.5" which lags massively behind the 4.7" in popularity. Its just easier to make 4.7 and 5.5, the average customer largely doesn't care (but thinks 5.5 is ridiculous when they see it) and the profits margins are not there to make a smaller phone. Largely because people would demand smaller is cheaper and not the same price, and of course having 95% of the same internals doesn't make that cost effective, where as the 5.5" makes a higher profit margin than the 4.7 so it ideally fits the smaller market which much higher margins than a 4" phone would bring.
Basically its all about profits. Tim won't even shun profits for choice - so we're here with the two perfect, very successful profit margin devices.
If iphone 5e specs are as listed in this article than well done Apple. This 4" iphone needs two main features, ApplePay and VoLTE/VoWiFi(use same modem chip as iphone 6S LTE bands). Rest of the features and opinions(jibber-jabber) from people who say I like this and that in iphone 5e but most probably has no inclination to buy this iphone.
Apple, remember. you are addressing vast number of people who are still on 4/4S/5/5S and can't let go their smaller size iphone due it's maneuverability/handling and no decent upgrade was available in such size from Apple; and those who need nice iphone upgrade but mostly uses for voice and occasionally text/what'sapp like that. Than every 2 1/2 year, bring upper end tech into 4" as chips get smaller/integrated and fits into smaller size iphone allowing larger battery.
Apple, remember. you are addressing vast number of people who are still on 4/4S/5/5S and can't let go their smaller size iphone due it's maneuverability/handling and no decent upgrade was available in such size from Apple; and those who need nice iphone upgrade but mostly uses for voice and occasionally text/what'sapp like that. Than every 2 1/2 year, bring upper end tech into 4" as chips get smaller/integrated and fits into smaller size iphone allowing larger battery.
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It's a shame they don't bump it up a lil more. I say it should have an a9 and about a 10 mp camera. That would be enough to make people really want it. They're not putting enough effort into making it a good seller. Steve is going to rollover in his grave because of what they're doing.
But what you are suggetsing means that unless the vast majority of those customers were only going to buy the entry level iPhone to begin with (and bought their 4/4S/5/5S as a second or third year offering, not as a flagship), then Apple is leaving money on the table.
It doesn't matter that the new phone meets those customers expectations based on what they have been using, if any of those users would otherwise pay for a flagship phone, but haven't only because there wasn't one avilable in a 4" size. Apple will lose money on every single one of those customers based on what they would have earned by putting a little more effort into this offering. For die hard 4" customers, Apple is not likely to push very many to a larger phone if that's the theory behind this offering -- they will lose money.
Wow! Whats your problem? Why make it personal?
I have an iPhone 5 and the screen size is more than fine for games, email, photos and Facebook.
People who can't deal with other people having opinions on purely subjective things such as screen size must have a massive problem with the world.
Few days ago Nowehreelse.fr has posted some photos that could show a possible prototype of the 6c/5e
What do you guys think?
http://www.nowhereelse.fr/phone-6c-mini-photos-rendus-3d-111664/
What do you guys think?
http://www.nowhereelse.fr/phone-6c-mini-photos-rendus-3d-111664/
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Yesterday i was playing with iPhone 6s, 6s+, 5s and iPod 6G at the shop (as well as iPad Mini). i must say the iPod felt the best in my hands, just the right size for my needs. as much as i like the 5s, the price they asking (€500 for 16GB model) is to much for 2 year old phone, the 6s was ok'ish - a bit big, but i can live with that if i dont have any other option, and the 6s+ was way tooo big for me as a phone - i dont need tablet in my pocket, i need a phone.
4" iPhone with iPod 6G size, shape & weight will be a killer phone, as long as the specs and price are right...
4" iPhone with iPod 6G size, shape & weight will be a killer phone, as long as the specs and price are right...
Looking good!
In all honesty, I don't really care about the casing so much, whether its a shrunk down 6 or the 5S casing gets reused, as long as it has an A9 processor and 2G of ram, I'm set
My tuppence worth.
Currently using an iPhone 5 with a major battery problem (50% one minute, 5% the next) and looking to change very soon.
I'd prefer a phone of the same size so it will fit in a jeans pocket, so 4" screen - but a bit of re-working might enable a 4.5" screen into the same form.
Screen size isn't the driver - overall size is.
I'd trade the 'thinness' of an iPhone 6 for the 'thickness' of the iPhone 5 if it gives me more battery life. An extra couple of mm in return for the phone not switching itself off when I'm halfway down a mountain is a fair swap.
As for specs:
- Enough processor power to run the current version os iOS and at least the next two
- Not fussed what the processor is or whether it's got a motion co-processor
- A better camera would be nice, but not the end of the world
- Similarly fingerprint recognition - if it doesn't have it, not a problem
- Multi Touch? Taptic engine? nope, don't think I need it
- Headphone ports? Happy to use the Lightning port if the headphones come with it
- Apple Pay? Would be nice, but not a deal breaker
- More battery life: this is important
Perhaps this would make the phone into an 'entry level' device, which I'm fine with.
What does surprise me is that *something* along the lines of the above - i.e. a smaller form factor than the iPhone 6s but more recent than the 5s doesn't already exist.
Then again, Apple have always believed that they design the products regardless of what some sections of the market ask for.
But in this instance the two main issues I have are pretty fundamental to using the thing - I want to carry it round in my pocket; and I want the battery to last a full day of use. The rest is negotiable.
Currently using an iPhone 5 with a major battery problem (50% one minute, 5% the next) and looking to change very soon.
I'd prefer a phone of the same size so it will fit in a jeans pocket, so 4" screen - but a bit of re-working might enable a 4.5" screen into the same form.
Screen size isn't the driver - overall size is.
I'd trade the 'thinness' of an iPhone 6 for the 'thickness' of the iPhone 5 if it gives me more battery life. An extra couple of mm in return for the phone not switching itself off when I'm halfway down a mountain is a fair swap.
As for specs:
- Enough processor power to run the current version os iOS and at least the next two
- Not fussed what the processor is or whether it's got a motion co-processor
- A better camera would be nice, but not the end of the world
- Similarly fingerprint recognition - if it doesn't have it, not a problem
- Multi Touch? Taptic engine? nope, don't think I need it
- Headphone ports? Happy to use the Lightning port if the headphones come with it
- Apple Pay? Would be nice, but not a deal breaker
- More battery life: this is important
Perhaps this would make the phone into an 'entry level' device, which I'm fine with.
What does surprise me is that *something* along the lines of the above - i.e. a smaller form factor than the iPhone 6s but more recent than the 5s doesn't already exist.
Then again, Apple have always believed that they design the products regardless of what some sections of the market ask for.
But in this instance the two main issues I have are pretty fundamental to using the thing - I want to carry it round in my pocket; and I want the battery to last a full day of use. The rest is negotiable.
Please apple, two 4" iPhones.
iPhone 5e - for the more budget oriented customers
iPhone 6S Mini, for those who want the best, in regards to features & performance, but in a smaller size.
iPhone 5e - for the more budget oriented customers
iPhone 6S Mini, for those who want the best, in regards to features & performance, but in a smaller size.