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I would argue that 4.7 is more of a "normal" screen size than 4 is. Not saying that they shouldn't have options and I'm certainly not opposed to a new 4 inch phone, but I think realistically the 4.7 would be the normal in most peoples eyes today and the 5.5 and 4 the out of the norm options for people with preferences in either direction. Heck, I don't actually even know anyone with a 6 or 6S but I know plenty with the plus versions. So I think the "normalcy" skews towards bigger. I know there are people who prefer the smaller phones and I get it, but I think people need to accept the fact that what was "normal" 4 years ago isn't the same now. With that being said I do think they should have options for everyone. My hope for the future of the 4 inch model is they keep it on par with the other sizes. I really think keeping them all the same (as close as possible feature wise) and just giving people the choice of screen size without compromise is the best route. If apple could reduce bezel sizes I would take an even larger screen honestly. My 6 Plus is big, but I've never had a problem with pocketability or usability. I don't really know what to compare them to but I would assume my hands are average. Now I'm at a point where I can't really even imagine going back to a small screen.

There is nothing normal by attaching a brick to your face (5" plus phones) while you talking :D
 
Just because it's become standard, it doesn't mean it's normal...

That's exactly what it means.

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Another one telling me to switch brands. Nah, I'm happy with my Apple products. I can both like Apple products and live in reality and understand they are screwing me with inferior tech for their "base" models.
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Not just shareholders, MAJOR shareholders. The kind that hate their 16 GB storage, but really love what it does for the bottom line of the company. They are torn. It's sad.
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FOR THE LAST TIME. I will not switch from Apple products. I do the right thing and buy Apple products. They should do the right thing and put profit just a little behind customer satisfaction, just once. It's 2016. 32 GB storage should be minimum. Period.
Back to 16 gig. Unless you held the amount of investment by Vanguard, State Street or FMR; those are MAJOR shareholders; where bumps in the stock price cause major change in the valuation. However, there is no "should" about the minimum gb. I think it should be 64 gig. And let them charge for it. It will good for consumers and shareholders. If people want and can afford a 64 gig iphone they will be getting one with enough capacity.

Else they are going to do what they are going to do. There might be a surprise with the iphone 7 or not.
 
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I cannot wait to hear about people pitching tents and sleeping in a parking garage just to get a 4" iPhone.
 
Yep, the pitching tents and scalping and all that has been associated with past reveals is coming.

I actually enjoy those events as "human spectacles" because it shows desperate or greedy people get. I always order my phones online for delivery at home. Problem for the 6S Plus one involved me getting an iCloud issue, so I had to go to the Apple Store the day of and get mine swapped out. For S7 Edge, mine is getting delivered too.
 
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It depends on whether Apple pulls another iOS 8. You're lucky you had the iPad 3, because if it had been an iPad 2, you'd have witnessed the problem big-time. Guess what the difference is? Yep, 512k RAM --> 1GB RAM. Do you really think once Apple has most of their current devices on 2GB of RAM, the next OS won't use it and semi-brick the 1GB models? Hint: Apple was still selling iPad minis new (512k) well after iOS 8 was released.

Again, the 'new' Apple doesn't care much about user experience if marketing or the bean-counters want it otherwise.

My mom has the iPad 2. It still runs pretty well for her needs, and at 16GB, is far from full. It doesn't have a lot of life left in it probably, but look at how much use she got out of it ... At least 5 years and maybe more. If I bought a 1GB iPhone next month that lasts up to 5 years with similar performance to my Mom's iPad 2, I'd be happy. By the way, my iPhone 4 with 512MB RAM still works perfectly well, and I might still be using it as I wait for the new 4" iPhone if the Home & power/lock buttons didn't break. Unlike my mother, I definitely felt the limitations of that device, but it wasn't anything I couldn't live with.

So as to the customer experience. I'm not sure I agree Apple needs to drop 1GB and 16GB configurations from the base models yet. Where I think they fall short is not educating their customers accordingly. 1GB/16GB is plenty for someone like my Mom, but definitely not for me. And I would agree adding 4K video, 12mp cameras, and marketing the phone on those features without also recommending higher storage is somewhat irresponsible. But, buyer beware. Apple or no, the customer needs to take more responsibility in their purchasing decisions. It's just common sense higher quality photos and videos are going to take up more storage.

If your point is simply Apple is being greedy by not offering more when they could without a significant hit to their margins, well no argument there. But anyone who's been buying Apple for any length of time knows that's always been the case. I'm not sure "greed" is the right word, but certainly preservation of their margins. I'd argue that other services have improved instead, and that's the trade off. It would be one thing if Apple released a model without enough storage for even basic needs, and no other options forcing an upgrade year after year just to make it usable. But they don't, they offer 3-4 storage options, which I include in the price of the phone I buy. A flagship iPhone 6S costs me $750, there's no point in even thinking about the base model price.
 
4 inch screen/small form factor
A9 chip
64 gigs
12mp camera

Looks like a good deal to me. Sign me up!
 
FOR THE LAST TIME. I will not switch from Apple products. I do the right thing and buy Apple products. They should do the right thing and put profit just a little behind customer satisfaction, just once. It's 2016. 32 GB storage should be minimum. Period.
Apple is a consumer products company, not a religion. You won't be rewarded in the afterlife for doing the right thing at Best Buy, and you aren't doing the right thing as a consumer if you're not happy with your purchase. It's wrong for your own personal life and your health as you are less happy and clearly developing a severe case of hypertension. You're also doing the wrong thing for society by denying the market a vital microeconomic signal.

Apple knows they have maximized value to their customers across all markets when they have maximized profits. If you believe that Apple is somehow getting more profit than the value they are providing, then you are the problem-- by paying more for the product than the value you receive you are falsifying the data Apple needs to make the best decisions they can.
 
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No. I want an Apple product, and I wish they would do something for *me* for a change, rather than me always handing them my $$$ and making them happy. There is zero reason 32 GB storage is not the base, other than greed. You can't argue that, so don't even try. Apple has become a greedy company. They still make great products, but the greed has really soured me. I'm only again back in their corner because they are fighting the FBI, and that is something I agree with them on. But 16 GB?? Right. What a joke.
Easy solution for you: just buy the 64 Gb version, as I did.
I didn't even consider the 16 Gb model, for both the iPad and the iPhone.

Seriously, reading all the rants on this forum it seems Apple only sell 16 Gb models.
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Rome is burning? Lol not this year I bet.
Last time I checked (5 minutes ago) Rome wasn't burning ... ;)
Does it really not count because it demonstrates just how far behind the likes of Sony Apple really are with their battery technology?
It doesn't count because under the same "uncontrolled " conditions maybe my iPhone 6S could last "two days" ...

Apple has very little to learn from Sony, since their mobile division is collapsing....
 
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Doesn't have to be exactly 4 inches, but the Moto G (1st gen), Lumia 635, Sony Z5 compact to name a few. Heck look at ZTE, Huawei, Alcatel for better value devices with similar or better specs. 4" is an outdated screen size for the most part. It's pathetic that the Apple fanboys will take this overpriced device and claim it's a godsend. Open your eyes and notice you're getting ripped off.

By "outdated screen size" do you mean "has a size of screen that you personally do not want"? I can only assume you mean that, otherwise you're just plain ignorant (and you seem to be able to spell so I have to assume you're just making the common mistake that what you personally want is what you believe everyone should want).

I really, really want a 4" iPhone with current hardware. If Apple makes one, I will purchase it to replace my 5S. I *do not want* a screen that is any bigger than the one the 5S uses. It is the perfect size for me.

What next, you'll tell us that the 13" MBP has an "outdated screen size" and people are being "ripped off" when buying them because the 15" MBP is clearly better. I mean, 15 is a bigger number than 13! That's all that matters in idiot land! You would be a foooooool to buy the 13" MBP for any reason! Wake up sheeple!

*eyeroll*
 
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By "outdated screen size" do you mean "has a size of screen that you personally do not want"? I can only assume you mean that, otherwise you're just plain ignorant (and you seem to be able to spell so I have to assume you're just making the common mistake that what you personally want is what you believe everyone should want).

I really, really want a 4" iPhone with current hardware. If Apple makes one, I will purchase it to replace my 5S. I *do not want* a screen that is any bigger than the one the 5S uses. It is the perfect size for me.

What next, you'll tell us that the 13" MBP has an "outdated screen size" and people are being "ripped off" when buying them because the 15" MBP is clearly better. I mean, 15 is a bigger number than 13! That's all that matters in idiot land! You would be a foooooool to buy the 13" MBP for any reason! Wake up sheeple!

*eyeroll*

Please don't stop me from ordering a 2.5-3" screen phone because I need a blackberry curve with the latest specs.
 
How is the 5S a "poor user experience"? I'm typing this on one right now and especially with iOS 9.3 (beta) this phone is still a great experience IMO. Better than any midrange Androids for me.

LOL, Android - I mean look at just the logo - Google tripped over and fell on their face before they'd even left the starting blocks. I mean, who brands a platform with this logo (and yes, they actually use this, which is incredulous) - it looks like a young child's first attempt in MSPAINT:

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Sums up Google to a tee. And then, that GHASTLY "Alphabet" typeface they adopted, last year... >_<

They're on a completely different planet, and it's a planet devoid of taste, security and design sense. But then, that's what happens when your "products" are secondary considerations to the core business you're actually GOOD at (which ain't devices - I mean, they based their platform on Java, just because they thought most programmers were "used to Java" :eek::D)

When you hear Android nerds comparing specs as the pivotal reason of X over Y device, you know it's a failed mission.

Wow...
 
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Please don't stop me from ordering a 2.5-3" screen phone because I need a blackberry curve with the latest specs.
The 5S is currently sold, and was the flagship device before the 6/6+ redesign came along. When that redesign arrived, many people went "huh, that's nice and all but what about a flagship phone to replace the 5S, since the design has hit a nice sweet spot where the phone is just the right size".

Apple have not made a phone for that segment of the market - I will bet they were expecting a lot more of the installed base to trade "up" to a 6 or 6+ when the typical contract/upgrade periods rolled around. They gave it the requisite cycle time that is typical for phone contracts and reassessed how things were going and realised that enough people (note: not all, since the 6/6+ are obviously popular) stuck to the 5S because the bigger screen size put them off that it would be worth releasing an updated 4" phone.

The 4" screen size is only "outdated" to people who want a bigger phone. The fact that Apple is now directly addressing this segment of the market with a new product (albeit one with minimal design changes because THAT'S WHAT WE WANT) demonstrates that the 4" format for iPhones is far from obsolete for a great many customers. Continuing to ship the 5S as the solution to that segment of the market clearly isn't working for them.

A lot of people want near-everything that the current iPhone 6S has *except* the screen and chassis which they want to be the same size as the 5S because it is an excellent size.

The fact that this demand exists enough for Apple to address it speaks volumes. What it mainly says is "the opinions of nviz22 are not representative of the buying public, no matter how much he scrunches up his eyes and strains until he bursts a blood vessel in his eye and wishes it were so."
 
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I was upset when I purchased the 6+ and realized it shipped with insufficient RAM to run properly. And back then I was mostly upset because I felt 'forced' to upgrade because of the aging hardware in the 4S. Now, 2 mega-screen size cycles later, and they release the phone with the specs the 6+ should have had in the first place, in the form size many wanted in the first place?

Apple's greed is REALLY starting to tick me off. Like a whole lot.
 
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