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Some will be as always iPhone 16 only? 😂
Good!

I’m not ready for this yet. I used to love new technology. Sign me up for the latest beta, first edition, whatever.

I’m beginning to understand the Luddites as I get older.

Edit: maybe it’s just this weird arc that software development is on. I’m still excited about the hardware.
 
I wish Apple would improve Safari's performance with website animations (which are becoming more and more popular).
Any website that has animations on it works better on Firefox and Edge (speaking of macOS), including apple's own...
 
I wish Apple would improve Safari's performance with website animations (which are becoming more and more popular).
Any website that has animations on it works better on Firefox and Edge (speaking of macOS), including apple's own...
Yeah. Safari lags immensely on animation-heavy websites or even websites with a lot of graphics, whereas there are no issues in Firefox or Chromium-based browsers. I like Safari, but it's too slow for website content to make it my main browser. It's perfectly fine on iOS, though. I mainly use Brave on macOS. For me to go back to Safari, they need to drastically improve the page performance for graphically heavy websites. Safari for macOS is lightning fast on normal websites otherwise.
 
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I have been thinking, and it doesn’t occur to me how could this work, or with what purpose.
It's (probably) for the "I've told you a thousand times Gmail, I'm not going to switch to Chrome" popups and StackOverflow "please please please accept more cookies" nagware and Reddit taking up 1/3 of the screen to demand I login via Google on every visit.


Wait... I see a pattern...
 
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Yeah. Safari lags immensely on animation-heavy websites or even websites with a lot of graphics, whereas there are no issues in Firefox or Chromium-based browsers. I like Safari, but it's too slow for website content to make it my main browser. It's perfectly fine on iOS, though. I mainly use Brave on macOS. For me to go back to Safari, they need to drastically improve the page performance for graphically heavy websites. Safari for macOS is lightning fast on normal websites otherwise.
Safari lags and seems quite RAM hungry in recent years. It's what I prefer but is difficult at times to use. Have changed from using a dozen tabs to using bookmarks and the reading list. If I don't then RAM pressure remains in the yellow for extended periods of time.

There was a site we use at work with a Black Friday sale last year displaying a pointless, single threaded, animation changing the lightning on some rounded text... ran okay in Chrome at 90+% CPU usage while Safari and Firefox would go to 100% and rendered at multiple seconds-per-frame making it impossible to login.
 
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How about they concentrate on making Safari much faster since it’s very slow compared to Firefox. I actually prefer safari but I moved away from it due to its long web page loading times and being a resource hog.
 
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This particular feature sounds really interesting and I genuinely want to see how this will be implemented. 👀
Nothing you can't already accomplish from altering the CSS with a browser addon like Stylus...

.annoying_ad { display: none; }
 
It sounds like what desktop ad blockers have already allowed for a long time: You select elements on a page that you want removed, and this will be remembered across page visits. The purpose is to remove annoying ads, overlays, and popups.
When Apple allows iOS to use the full (android) version of Firefox, you'll find a number of different add-ons like uBlock that allows you to do this. Sometimes it's great, sometimes not. But having the option is always great.
 
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The webpage summarisation feature sounds good. In the future, a video summarisation feature would save even more time.
 


Safari will gain a series of AI-powered features and UI enhancements in iOS 18, AppleInsider reports.

safari-icon-blue-banner.jpeg

Safari will apparently receive a range of visual tweaks alongside several new tools to improve the browsing experience, including:

  • An "Intelligent Search" browser assistant tool that leverages Apple's on-device AI technology to identify key topics and phrases on webpages for summarization purposes.
  • A "Web Eraser" tool that allows users to remove unwanted portions of webpages easily. Erasure is persistent, remaining even when revisiting a site unless changes are reverted.
  • A new, quick-access menu emerging from the address bar that consolidates page tools, bringing over some functions that currently sit in the Share Sheet and placing them alongside the new tools.

The iPadOS and macOS versions of Safari are also expected to align further. These new features are purportedly undergoing evaluation alongside internal builds of iOS 18 and macOS 15 ahead of their unveiling at Apple's Worldwide Developer's Conference (WWDC) in June. Earlier this month, backend code on Apple's servers suggested that a new Safari browsing assistant is in the works, corroborating this report.

Farther in the future, Apple is said to be working on a more powerful version of Visual Look Up that allows users to obtain information on products when browsing through images. The feature is expected to be released sometime in 2025.

Last week, Bloomberg's Mark Gurman said that iOS 18 will "overhaul" many of Apple's built-in apps, including Notes, Mail, Photos, and Fitness. Apple's next-generation operating systems are almost certain to be previewed during Apple's WWDC keynote on June 10, and the updates should be widely released in the fall.

Article Link: New AI Features Reportedly Coming to Safari in iOS 18
It is unclear from this article what any of these features have to do with "AI".
 
Nothing you can't already accomplish from altering the CSS with a browser addon like Stylus...

.annoying_ad { display: none; }
Don't forget to add !important and to make the CSS specific enough to apply the overrides.

CSS:
iframe#LetsNagTheCustomer.annoying_ad
{
display: none!important;
}

But of course this only affects blocking CSS-able items. Sometimes it's better to block the whole script which hopefully the system Apple is building would be capable of detecting and executing.
 
So Safari will become Bing then? Ugh

What's next, they going to start putting ads into iOS and macOS under the guise of "AI" like what MSFT has been doing to W11?! 👎

I'd be shocked if Apple doesn't do this, unfortunately. I'm seriously considering jumping my main PC over to linux. Honestly, the only reason it still has W11 on it is for games.
 
It's not a fad and it's not going anywhere. Everyone everywhere is behind AI right now, unlike 5G and Crypto. I believe we're stuck with this one.
The problem is that the word "AI" is meaningless. Is Eliza "AI"?

(see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA )

Are simple "If/Then/ else" statements AI?

What about machine learning?

What about text prediction?

AI has lost all meaning and is just a buzzword.
 
Honestly, the "Web Eraser" thing sounds good, but only if it can erase stories about Elon Musk from any news site I visit; and, specifically for the Guardian, I don't want to see any stories written by Adrian Chiles.
 


Safari will gain a series of AI-powered features and UI enhancements in iOS 18, AppleInsider reports.

safari-icon-blue-banner.jpeg

Safari will apparently receive a range of visual tweaks alongside several new tools to improve the browsing experience, including:

  • An "Intelligent Search" browser assistant tool that leverages Apple's on-device AI technology to identify key topics and phrases on webpages for summarization purposes.
  • A "Web Eraser" tool that allows users to remove unwanted portions of webpages easily. Erasure is persistent, remaining even when revisiting a site unless changes are reverted.
  • A new, quick-access menu emerging from the address bar that consolidates page tools, bringing over some functions that currently sit in the Share Sheet and placing them alongside the new tools.

The iPadOS and macOS versions of Safari are also expected to align further. These new features are purportedly undergoing evaluation alongside internal builds of iOS 18 and macOS 15 ahead of their unveiling at Apple's Worldwide Developer's Conference (WWDC) in June. Earlier this month, backend code on Apple's servers suggested that a new Safari browsing assistant is in the works, corroborating this report.

Farther in the future, Apple is said to be working on a more powerful version of Visual Look Up that allows users to obtain information on products when browsing through images. The feature is expected to be released sometime in 2025.

Last week, Bloomberg's Mark Gurman said that iOS 18 will "overhaul" many of Apple's built-in apps, including Notes, Mail, Photos, and Fitness. Apple's next-generation operating systems are almost certain to be previewed during Apple's WWDC keynote on June 10, and the updates should be widely released in the fall.

Article Link: New AI Features Reportedly Coming to Safari in iOS 18
What I’d really like is some way to access my personal Safari profile from my employer’s macbook, which is logged in under a separate “work” Apple id.

Also Safari for Windows!
 
Does Arc have and iOS app? I haven’t checked for a while, but I thought that it didn’t have one.
 
Not sure why so many people in this forum are anti-anything labelled AI, especially if it'll be done on-device. All these features sound like good and useful additions to me.
I don’t think they are opposed to the background Machine Learning processes. I think everyone is starting to get annoyed with the generative ML bots pushing “suggestions”, popping up like you’re asking it, anytime you start to type something with the same letters as the name of the bot.

Like try to to type “my” to a friend in Snapchat and see if it doesn’t start typing “My AI” like I’m going to have a convo with this intrusive bot that I didn’t ask for and can’t rid myself of.

Try searching for things in Facebook messenger or Insta. Damned bot is integrated into search and if you accidentally hit one of it’s AI results- you’re in a chat with a generative ML boy that you didn’t want to talk to, but the phones UI is just too small and your fat finger hit a dumb AI result.

Now you can’t shop on the Amazon app without Rufus keylogging every search in its internal history. Then when you go to read the product page, tons of keywords floating all over the bottom half of the listing, wasting precious little screen realstate that remains.

This is what is irksome. It pisses people off that you can’t buy a pair of sneakers without dealing with an intrusive bot that isn’t good and solves non-problems for the absolutely no one who asked for it.
 
It's not a fad and it's not going anywhere. Everyone everywhere is behind AI right now, unlike 5G and Crypto. I believe we're stuck with this one.
Machine Learning isn’t a fad and has been around a long time. It’s been in MacOS and iOS for a long time as well. In everything from the camera app, photos app, and location/time sensitive notifications in apps. ML cores have been in Apple A series processors for a while.

The trend is the generative AI assistant. They are expensive, cost prohibitive, and not efficient as they are sold to be. There’s also law suits over content rights infringement and a huge lawsuit will come one day soon. The AI bot in Snapchat has threatened teenagers and used smartphone cameras to capture images from their environment. So it’s only a matter of time before legal judgements and regulations make that even harder.

I’m optimistic that the costs will go up to where businesses will have to charge money for generative LLM bots and the features will be disabled for those who won’t pay. Then I can finally search the web, chat with my friends and family, and buy a pair of sneakers on Amazon- without annoying, intrusive bots invading my privacy.
 
Good!

I’m not ready for this yet. I used to love new technology. Sign me up for the latest beta, first edition, whatever.

I’m beginning to understand the Luddites as I get older.

Edit: maybe it’s just this weird arc that software development is on. I’m still excited about the hardware.
I think it’s just the annoying AI bots being smashed all over everything coupled with bizarre UI choices that make apps more complicated to navigate. Then there’s curious choices like Contact Posters. The notion that you design a poster that takes over my phone’s screen when you call- really, Apple?

I work in IT for a living. I have so many gadgets and PCs and projects going on. But some of this is just too much. I don’t mind complicated when I have a tech project and I’m learning how to stand up a windows server to deploy images over my home network to my PCs using PXE boot.

But when it’s an everyday item like a smartphone or a watch. It’s gotta be easy and ready and fluid to navigate. When I’m studying or working- I switch to my MacBook to avoid the constant annoyances and tinkering that comes with my PCs.

But Apple is a lot less bad than others. Maybe we can opt out of the worst things like email categories, Safari webpage highlights, and all the summarizing crap smashed in. Maybe we will have settings options to turn off a lot of this unnecessary stuff.
 
I don’t think they are opposed to the background Machine Learning processes. I think everyone is starting to get annoyed with the generative ML bots pushing “suggestions”, popping up like you’re asking it, anytime you start to type something with the same letters as the name of the bot.

Like try to to type “my” to a friend in Snapchat and see if it doesn’t start typing “My AI” like I’m going to have a convo with this intrusive bot that I didn’t ask for and can’t rid myself of.

Try searching for things in Facebook messenger or Insta. Damned bot is integrated into search and if you accidentally hit one of it’s AI results- you’re in a chat with a generative ML boy that you didn’t want to talk to, but the phones UI is just too small and your fat finger hit a dumb AI result.

Now you can’t shop on the Amazon app without Rufus keylogging every search in its internal history. Then when you go to read the product page, tons of keywords floating all over the bottom half of the listing, wasting precious little screen realstate that remains.

This is what is irksome. It pisses people off that you can’t buy a pair of sneakers without dealing with an intrusive bot that isn’t good and solves non-problems for the absolutely no one who asked for it.

Maybe my opinion hasn't been tainted due to the fact that I don't use things like Snapchat, Facebook, etc, so I don't interact with the machine in that way. People need to remember that they can always just not use the products that they don't like. When Instagram stopped serving my needs, I just deleted the account and never went back.

We shouldn't be looking to big tech to solve the problems we can solve ourselves.
 
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