thedogcow said:
An ajustment in frame rates might make higher resolutions avalible. I would be amazed if the 30" supported a full 60hz at full reolution.
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An ajustment in frame rates might make higher resolutions avalible. I would be amazed if the 30" supported a full 60hz at full reolution.
That's exactly what I would like to see at WWDC. A highly customizable, kick-ass Xstation for the big boys and a single G5 mini-tower for the rest of us: one HD, one optical drive, one PCI slot (or zero), plastic enclosure (but in style, of course), cheap but upgradeable GPU, for 999$. And I hope ThinkSecret is wrong and there will still be a low-end 17" when the new displays arrive, for 599$ maybe.
quads
Can any program utilize quad prossecors? I think the small benifit gained wouldn't be enough to justify a huge price jump, but if code is written to take complete advantage of quads, then we'll be smoking
Can any program utilize quad prossecors? I think the small benifit gained wouldn't be enough to justify a huge price jump, but if code is written to take complete advantage of quads, then we'll be smoking
YES!!!!
I have been waiting for this moment ever since ADC came out. Goodbye old buddy, I won't miss you a bit. And yes, I do have an ADC display (Formac) and I do love the all-in-one connector, but DVI rules. I was shocked when Apple, one of the pioneers of the revolutionary DVI connection, would try to create a new connector, just as DVI was becomeing standard. ADC was a limited connector from it's birth. It didn't allow for higher power LCD's, it didn't allow for a new serial standard(USB 2.0), and it was not practical for home theater use, where there is no need for a USB connection to your DVD player and no collection of tiny pins will power a 60" plasma display. I realize there are people who love ADC, but for god sake can't you just connect two more wires to save me $100 on a stinking conversion box! If this rumor is true, I will buy a display. Not because I need it (already have a nice LCD) but to show my graditude to the wonderful ADC killing gods at Apple. Thank you sooooooo much Steve!
ADC sucks
DVI rules
(sorry ADC fans)
I have been waiting for this moment ever since ADC came out. Goodbye old buddy, I won't miss you a bit. And yes, I do have an ADC display (Formac) and I do love the all-in-one connector, but DVI rules. I was shocked when Apple, one of the pioneers of the revolutionary DVI connection, would try to create a new connector, just as DVI was becomeing standard. ADC was a limited connector from it's birth. It didn't allow for higher power LCD's, it didn't allow for a new serial standard(USB 2.0), and it was not practical for home theater use, where there is no need for a USB connection to your DVD player and no collection of tiny pins will power a 60" plasma display. I realize there are people who love ADC, but for god sake can't you just connect two more wires to save me $100 on a stinking conversion box! If this rumor is true, I will buy a display. Not because I need it (already have a nice LCD) but to show my graditude to the wonderful ADC killing gods at Apple. Thank you sooooooo much Steve!
ADC sucks
DVI rules
(sorry ADC fans)
Would any monitor be a "stunning beautiful display" if EVERYONE could afford it and EVERYONE had one? What you're talking about is a 19" CRT, which USED TO BE the "Mercedes-Benz" of the monitor world... what only the "rich" could afford.boy said:
There will always be very expensive and "stunningly beautiful displays" that are very large and only very few can get them. That's just the way of the world.
Maybe the "new display" rumors and the "new iMac" rumors are one in the same - perhaps, continuing with its "all-in-one" design, the new G5 iMac with simply be a new display and that's it! Make the display a few inches thicker, stick the equivalent of an iPod hard drive behind the LCD, a slot-loading SuperDrive in the side of the display, as well as your RAM and all your other components!
JGowan said:
Precisely - I remember when a 17" CRT was a luxury, and moving from my 14" CRT to my 15" CRT was a big deal. Of course back then my Pentium 200 MHz with a 4 GB hard drive was a pretty impressive machine - especially since I pimped it out to 32 MB RAM....
about time Apple woke up and Dumped ADC
While the idea of a Single cable setup for a Monitor was a great Idea from Apple it was years too late and DVI was/is the Standard atleast until HDMI replaces that over 2005-2006.
Apple can now make a ton of money selling these new Monitors as they will be gorgeously designed , with unparalled clarity, I can't get enough of my Flat-Panel iMac screen.
That said I can now see Apple getting High-end Video cards with much regularity as they should be no differen't now since they no longer need to be modified into ADC/DVI. you can just buy any video card from a PC store and download a driver from Nvidia or ATI.
While the idea of a Single cable setup for a Monitor was a great Idea from Apple it was years too late and DVI was/is the Standard atleast until HDMI replaces that over 2005-2006.
Apple can now make a ton of money selling these new Monitors as they will be gorgeously designed , with unparalled clarity, I can't get enough of my Flat-Panel iMac screen.
That said I can now see Apple getting High-end Video cards with much regularity as they should be no differen't now since they no longer need to be modified into ADC/DVI. you can just buy any video card from a PC store and download a driver from Nvidia or ATI.
YES!!!!
I have been waiting for this moment ever since ADC came out. Goodbye old buddy, I won't miss you a bit. And yes, I do have an ADC display (Formac) and I do love the all-in-one connector, but DVI rules. I was shocked when Apple, one of the pioneers of the revolutionary DVI connection, would try to create a new connector, just as DVI was becomeing standard. ADC was a limited connector from it's birth. It didn't allow for higher power LCD's, it didn't allow for a new serial standard(USB 2.0), and it was not practical for home theater use, where there is no need for a USB connection to your DVD player and no collection of tiny pins will power a 60" plasma display. I realize there are people who love ADC, but for god sake can't you just connect two more wires to save me $100 on a stinking conversion box! If this rumor is true, I will buy a display. Not because I need it (already have a nice LCD) but to show my graditude to the wonderful ADC killing gods at Apple. Thank you sooooooo much Steve!
ADC sucks
DVI rules
(sorry ADC fans)
I have been waiting for this moment ever since ADC came out. Goodbye old buddy, I won't miss you a bit. And yes, I do have an ADC display (Formac) and I do love the all-in-one connector, but DVI rules. I was shocked when Apple, one of the pioneers of the revolutionary DVI connection, would try to create a new connector, just as DVI was becomeing standard. ADC was a limited connector from it's birth. It didn't allow for higher power LCD's, it didn't allow for a new serial standard(USB 2.0), and it was not practical for home theater use, where there is no need for a USB connection to your DVD player and no collection of tiny pins will power a 60" plasma display. I realize there are people who love ADC, but for god sake can't you just connect two more wires to save me $100 on a stinking conversion box! If this rumor is true, I will buy a display. Not because I need it (already have a nice LCD) but to show my graditude to the wonderful ADC killing gods at Apple. Thank you sooooooo much Steve!
ADC sucks
DVI rules
(sorry ADC fans)
Travis Novak said:
I also use a FOrmac display that uses a single cable at the monitor end & a break out (connection box) box at the other end. It has the advantage of no adapter connection to my dvi PowerBook or other dvi Mac or PC. If Formac can do ita few years ago, my monitor is about 2 years old now, then Apple should be able to do at least this good if they do choose to change from ADC to DVI. The only difference with the ADC & the DVI FOrmac displays is at the computer end of the cable.
Bill the TaxMan
Apple asks Thinksecret to pull artist renditions
I'm not sure of this has been posted already but Apple Legal has apparently asked Thinksecret to eliminate their artist renditions. If this is so, then we should expect these things pretty soon.(Maybe tomorrow)
I'm not sure of this has been posted already but Apple Legal has apparently asked Thinksecret to eliminate their artist renditions. If this is so, then we should expect these things pretty soon.(Maybe tomorrow)
yoman said:I'm not sure of this has been posted already but Apple Legal has apparently asked Thinksecret to eliminate their artist renditions. If this is so, then we should expect these things pretty soon.(Maybe tomorrow)
Because that's the same thing they did to the PowerMacs! Good thinking...
I want a new LCD display, not my honkin' 19'' CRT
That's going to be one hell of a WWDC
If they release most of their anticipated hardware in advance of it. Tiger must be something interesting.
perhaps the rumors of QT7 and Java Tiger coming together may be fruitful.
Or the intellegent agent concept
Or xserve integration...
speculation is fun!!
having no clue isn't!
If they release most of their anticipated hardware in advance of it. Tiger must be something interesting.
perhaps the rumors of QT7 and Java Tiger coming together may be fruitful.
Or the intellegent agent concept
Or xserve integration...
speculation is fun!!
having no clue isn't!
I have to say I love ADC, so easy and efficient. Im a consumer, I dont care about massive 30 inch monitors (wth would I do with one 2 foot from the damn thing, Id get a crick in me neck trying to use the Apple Menu)
Personally I hope Apple allows for a smooth transition by allowing ADC and DVI, and still making ADC cards as well as sticking the DVI ones in.
Personally I hope Apple allows for a smooth transition by allowing ADC and DVI, and still making ADC cards as well as sticking the DVI ones in.
Does the Radeon 8500 MAc support 3840x2400?
Sorry in advance if this has already been addressed earlier in the thread.
According to Viewsonic's website, the Radeon 8500 Mac Edition will display 3840x2400! Can that be possible when the 9800XT maxes at 1920x1200? Here's a link of cards for the 22" QUXGA-Wide monitor with all models supporting the res speced for the 30" Cinema Display.
http://www.viewsonic.com/products/lcd_vp2290bhardware.htm
The new Viewsonic/IBM/Hitachi 22" LCD displays that support a resolution (higher but) comparable to the rumored 30" specs use a crazy Matrox 4xDVI scheme to reach 3840 x 2400. The signals are delivered sepparately and combined by the monitor.
http://www.matrox.com/mga/archive_story/sept2003/p_hr256.cfm
Sorry in advance if this has already been addressed earlier in the thread.
According to Viewsonic's website, the Radeon 8500 Mac Edition will display 3840x2400! Can that be possible when the 9800XT maxes at 1920x1200? Here's a link of cards for the 22" QUXGA-Wide monitor with all models supporting the res speced for the 30" Cinema Display.
http://www.viewsonic.com/products/lcd_vp2290bhardware.htm
The new Viewsonic/IBM/Hitachi 22" LCD displays that support a resolution (higher but) comparable to the rumored 30" specs use a crazy Matrox 4xDVI scheme to reach 3840 x 2400. The signals are delivered sepparately and combined by the monitor.
http://www.matrox.com/mga/archive_story/sept2003/p_hr256.cfm
heisetax said:
I have a quad ADC kvm connected to a powerbook, pc, pmg3, and recently a pmg5. i thought about buying a Dvi kvm and just connecting a single usb.
But...I found a faboulous deal on a formac ADC display 20" for $500!!!!!!
Anyway it was too goood to pass up so I bought it and had to buy two conversion boxes. The pc dvi dosen't like the monitor and it is quirky and unrealiable. Had Apple swithed to Dvi last year I might have saved $200
Travis Novak said:
I do agree with you, though not as passionately. The all-in-one cable can be managed (check Formac) in a DVI connector, and if it means being able to have firewire hubs, USB 2.0 - or whatever future hub - on the monitor and high-power gigantic LCDs, I too say good riddance to ADC. And we are not even talking about the benefit for graphics cards...
If there is a switch to DVI, as we are led to believe, I don't think Apple will continue to have ADC cards, but they will provide people with a DVI to ADC adaptor. That adaptor will have to be powered and I'll bet it won't come cheap...CTerry said:
Oh well...
Travis Novak said:I have a quad ADC kvm connected to a powerbook, pc, pmg3, and recently a pmg5. i thought about buying a Dvi kvm and just connecting a single usb.
But...I found a faboulous deal on a formac ADC display 20" for $500!!!!!!
Anyway it was too goood to pass up so I bought it and had to buy two conversion boxes. The pc dvi dosen't like the monitor and it is quirky and unrealiable. Had Apple swithed to Dvi last year I might have saved $200
How did you find one for $500?
edgarj said:Sorry in advance if this has already been addressed earlier in the thread.
According to Viewsonic's website, the Radeon 8500 Mac Edition will display 3840x2400! Can that be possible when the 9800XT maxes at 1920x1200? Here's a link of cards for the 22" QUXGA-Wide monitor with all models supporting the res speced for the 30" Cinema Display.
http://www.viewsonic.com/products/lcd_vp2290bhardware.htm
The new Viewsonic/IBM/Hitachi 22" LCD displays that support a resolution (higher but) comparable to the rumored 30" specs use a crazy Matrox 4xDVI scheme to reach 3840 x 2400. The signals are delivered sepparately and combined by the monitor.
http://www.matrox.com/mga/archive_story/sept2003/p_hr256.cfm
According the ATI site, the max resolutions of the Radeon 8500 are only 2048 x 1536 (analog) and 1600 x 1200 (digital).
does anyone have a link or copies of those "artist renditions" ?? I missed out on it before thinksecret took them down.
The frustration!
We are just about to spend around £15k on mac equipment and i'm trying to convince our CEO that it's worth waiting for the new 23" display!! nightmare. I thought it would be out by now and i am loathe to buy a new dual processor G5 and have an out of date display within weeks...
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY IDEA OF WHEN THE NEW SCREENS WILL BE HERE??!!! AAAAAAAAAGHGHGHGHHGHGH!!!
We are just about to spend around £15k on mac equipment and i'm trying to convince our CEO that it's worth waiting for the new 23" display!! nightmare. I thought it would be out by now and i am loathe to buy a new dual processor G5 and have an out of date display within weeks...
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY IDEA OF WHEN THE NEW SCREENS WILL BE HERE??!!! AAAAAAAAAGHGHGHGHHGHGH!!!
jbee said:
The $500 rebate ends June 26th, WWDC starts June 28th, I would guess if they are coming it will be then. Tell your CEO that last time there was a change, it was a price drop from $3500 to $2000, that might be a way to convince him to hold off.
I would suspect however that you aren't going to get an "out of date" display in a few weeks. I would expect quicker response times, perhaps brighter, better color accuracy, maybe DVI interface, and a new enclosure, but nothing so ground breaking that would make you look at an existing 23" and say "what crap".