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Twin interface support?

Why wouldn't these panels carry both ADC and DVI connectors? A lot of LCD panels have both VGA and DVI connectors, so you can use an analog or a fully digital signal, depending on your video card. Why would Apple totally abandon one of their display interface technologies (and a very good one at that) which has definite advantages, rather than just adding another connector?

I'm also not sure of the G5 requirement for the 30" screen. If it's a video memory requirement to drive a display resolution that large, why not state the requirement as something like '128MB video RAM' or something? What could a G5 PowerMac possibly have in terms of display hardware than a G4 or other system (or PC for that matter) not have?

A lot of this rumour really doesn't make sense. I'm sure there will be new, and quite possibly larger displays from Apple sometime soon, but like this?
 
dude that power adapter will be ENORMOUS! if anyone has the ADC to DVI adapter, they will know what i'm talking about. has anyone else noticed that the combined power draw from a G5 with one of these monitors will be close to 1kw! THATS INSANE! I'm sad to see ADC go, it was one of those brilliant technologies from apple that should've gone industry-standard but was ignored. My apartment is so cluttered with power bricks, power strips, and extension cords it's ridiculous, one more can't hurt, but i really would like to be REMOVING power cords not adding them. Two thumbs up on the firewire ports, here's hoping they are 800s and usb 2.0!!

that "artist" rendering looks like it was beat with the ugly stick. i do like the power buttons on the side, with that "touchable" look, although the heat sensitive glowing LEDs in the current monitors are sweet.
 
Hello folks, my very first mail in these forums. Don't know how active I'll be but time will tell.

Anyway, have anyone of you considered the possibility that Apple might actually use the power-supply as a combined USB/Firewire/Graphiccard-hub that sends all the signals through to the screen? This should help us all avoid [most of] the clutter while keeping the compatibility with PC DVI-cards... Just a thought.
 
I was also going to mention that I am sure Apple will think of a way to make the cables simple. Maybe they will combine the DVI, Firewire/USB, and Power Cable into one cable that splits into many ends.
 
Yeah, and didn't the article mention that the power-supply was rather large as well? Anyway, the Apple store here (Norway) is down at the moment!
 
Goodbye ADC, hurah!

Being the one guy who has a mac at the day job, I get a lot of questions on the Apple displays and iPods. The question they always ask about the displays is "can I hook it up to a PC". My answer is "yes, but...", and as I start to explain that you have to buy this $100 adapter, their eyes glaze over and they wander off and buy the Sony.

I think ADC was the last of the proprietary Apple connectors, good riddance.
 
iGary said:
One word: ugly.

I like the cut in half G5 Photoshop job that was circulating a couple of months ago.

Ugly, ugly, ugly.

Hey, did i say it's ugly? :p

Good, I thought it was only that thought the artist's rendering was ugly. I agree I would much prefer something that looked like the pic saw a while back.
 
Single Cable - Many Connectors

The rendering is consistent with this theory:

1. ONE large cable going into the back of the monitor (like others have said). At the other end (behind the PowerMac) is a breakout box with DVI, USB, FW, and Power). So there is NO cable clutter on your desktop.

2. The FireWire connectors on the back of the monitor are a brilliant addition. iSight uses FW400 and that stops cable clutter. Your iPod uses FW400 as well. This all makes sense given Apple's complete product line.

Going to DVI will cut down on Apple's need to get proprietary graphics cards which only ups their cost and makes it more difficult to compete with the PC world. Good move Apple!
 
PowerMac
|__>DVI_____> Brick ____BIGCABLE___> Monitor
|__>USB_____|
|__>FW400___|

It would be perfect! :cool: :D
 
oingoboingo said:
I'm also not sure of the G5 requirement for the 30" screen. If it's a video memory requirement to drive a display resolution that large, why not state the requirement as something like '128MB video RAM' or something? What could a G5 PowerMac possibly have in terms of display hardware than a G4 or other system (or PC for that matter) not have?

I agree - this seems a bit weird. If the 30" display needs a high-end graphics card like the 256Mb Radeon 9800 which is G5 only - the reason given for the 'G5 requirement' is the added power available on the G5's AGP slot to allow for the ADC interface. So the new 256Mb Radeon comes with ADC, then Apple decide to abandon it. Major cock-up if you ask me.
 
Seems the new G5's are coming... Liquid cooling Dual 2.5 max, all dual-machines...
 
PTTP said:
yep, www.macnews.de has a picture someone grabbed from the german store:

http://www.macnews.de/media/applestore_de.gif

Text says: Aimed at creativity - The new PowerMac G5 - Standard with two PowerPC G5 processors with up to 2,5 GHz, new liquid cooling system and 8x SuperDrive. - Prices start at € 2159 incl. VAT

[Edit] Sorry - I need to learn to stop and read before getting too excited - thanks, you are a star :)
 
dho said:
Anything else would have a tough time handling the load.

Most graphics cards would have trouble doing just about anything on that high of a resolution. Thats why they would require faster cpus and gpus

Yes, expose on a 30" monitor would require a high memory and fast GPU. There's no reason why any modern computer (mac or pc) couldn't handle displaying at that resolution and even have 3d acceleration at that resolution, but I guess Apple wants to ensure that the UI 3d effects perform well. BUT STILL... all the new Macs should be able to handle it.
 
Look at this: http://www.valcenter.ch/

Translation: APPLE PowerMac G5 Dual 2.5 GHz (512/160 Go/DVD-R+CD-RW/56K) Two processors PowerPC G5 to 2.5 GHz - 2x 512 KB of L2 mask to 2.5 GHz - Bus processor in 1.25 GHz (by processor) - 512 Mo of RAM (GDR 400 MHz/PC3200) - hard Disk of 160 Go Serial ATA (7200 rpm.) - graphics Board ATI Radeon 9600XT with 128 Mo of DDR-SDRAM - DVD-R 8x8x + CD-RW 16x10x32x - 1 site 5.25" (already occupied by the reader SuperDrive d'origine) - 2 sites 3.5" (1 already occupied by hard disk d'origine) - 1 port PCI-X 64-bit (133 MHz) - 2 port PCI-X 64-bit (100 MHz) - 1 port AGP 8x Pro (occupied by the graphics board) - 1 port FireWire 800 Mbps - 2 ports FireWire 400 Mbps - Ethernet 10/100/1000Base-T - 3 ports USB 2.0 (1 on the front face and 2 on l'arrière) + 2 ports USB 1.1 (on the keyboard) - Exit ADC + DVI + VGA (via adapter) - Fax/Modem 56K V.92 - Option possible AirPort Extreme 54 Mbps - possible Bluetooth Option - Loudspeaker integrated - Sortie/entrée its optics - Sortie/entrée its analogical - Exit its on the front face (mini-jack) - Mouse and APPLE keyboard.
 
Artists rendition

johnnyjibbs said:
And the artist's rendition looks suspiciously like the legions and legions of ordinary boring displays that everyone else makes - looks just like the crap that gets included with every flat panel £500 Dell.

Only Apple and Formac had stylish displays IMO. This doesn't add up to me.





I couldn't agree more. This "artist's" rendition looks distinctly "un-Jonathon Ivesish".
Apple would never produce such a generic looking piece of hardware. They never have done so why would they start now?
The move to DVI is a plus, and I expect Apple will have come up with an elegant way to sort out ther cable-clutter problem.
I loved the mock-up G5 style monitor they came up with in the British magazine Mac-Format (June issue page 114).
If the screens looks as bad as the Think Secret illustration then I place my hopes in a more esthetic G5imac design
 
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