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inDesign...

this is just me, but i actually prefer my widescreen for inDesign spreads... and the widescreen thing is not just a "fad" it the way most things are going, and for multimedia/TV purposes has even been mandated by the FCC for displaying HD signals in a 16:9 format. but again, thats just me. i wouldn't trade my sidescreen for anything, and I'm a graphic designer as well.
 
Does DVI mean that these will be PC compatible? I know some high end PC users who would be quite interested in apple screens... Although they want the 3 legged easel style to go, and I kinda agree.

Don't know if I like that you can have all the style and beauty of apple on the desk but have the PC underneath...

then again, in 30 inches there is no hiding the uglyness of windows!

will only the new G5's be able to support these resolutions, though?
 
I would get one of these but it should have video inputs so you can connect it with cable tv. I would buy one of those than.
 
Good bye to ADC!!

I think it is best that Apple drop the ADC port... look at it this way... if Apple produced the video cards it wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing, but, with the waiting times we have to get good graphics cards, I'll be glad to see the ADC connection go. Besides, an extra power cord isn't a big deal, Apple keeps them small enough already.
As for price points, lets hope it looks something like $999, $1499, $2499 respectively for the 20", 23", and 30" LCDs. That is my guess. It is still higher than I would like personally, but, at least it is an improvement over current prices and the drop of the ADC connector should help. Of course, if Apple were smart, they may consider dropping the prices to be more competitive now that the monitors can be used for PCs too! (Most PC users LOVE Apple displays, but who wants to pay $150 to $250 extra for the ADC-DVI connector?)
Now that the Airport Express is out, lets hope that an iPod Express (my guess at the Wi-Fi enabled iPod name) is ready to come out too! (Then you could control the audio from your new iPod!!) That would make the display, AirTunes, and the iPod Express a cool combination!
 
What great innovation. Somehow the firewire and usb ports will lead to other innovative products ... a la AirPort Express.

I totally agree the prices have to get slashed. Oh boy ... this years WWDC will definitely be worth it. Usually products get annouced but are not available for weeks or months. The only way to see any products released between now and then is to go to WWDC-just like the iPod mini.
 
technocoy said:
this is just me, but i actually prefer my widescreen for inDesign spreads... and the widescreen thing is not just a "fad" it the way most things are going, and for multimedia/TV purposes has even been mandated by the FCC for displaying HD signals in a 16:9 format. but again, thats just me. i wouldn't trade my sidescreen for anything, and I'm a graphic designer as well.
Every pixel is valuable, especially when dealing with closeups. I constantly find myself wishing for more vertical space. All I know is every other manufacturer's 20" offering that I've looked at gives 1600x1200. When it's time to spend my dollars, odds are they won't go toward an inferior product, even if it has an apple on the back. That's not me being belligerent. It's me doing the best thing for myself and my business. Then again, if they can rotate...
 
awesomebase said:
I think it is best that Apple drop the ADC port... look at it this way... if Apple produced the video cards it wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing, but, with the waiting times we have to get good graphics cards, I'll be glad to see the ADC connection go. Besides, an extra power cord isn't a big deal, Apple keeps them small enough already.
Exactly. Put the damn brick on the floor under the table and enjoy 30" of HDTV.
 
THE PROS:
(1) Same video cards as the windows world
(2) No expensive ADC-DVI converter
(3) More folks from the PC/Linux crowd will buy them, More $ for Apple


THE CONS:
2 cords instead of one.


Come on everybody get real! Who cares if it has 2 cords?
How many times do you plug and unplug the monitor from your
computer anyways?
 
Aluminum display.. Hmm, does that mean Apple is going to release aluminum pro keyboard and mouse to go with the whole aluminum look? That will be cool. I think getting rid of the ADC is a good idea especially for powerbook users like me. Now I just hope Apple can bring the price down low enough so that I can afford it.
 
i can agree on the rotation thing...

but i don't think that apple would do it for us designers only... and we are the only ones who would use this to any great extent. oh, well. but it also falls into the apple being hi-design arena. i guess they assume that if you REALLY hate their 16:9 ratio (or 16:10) that you can always go get a formac display or something... kinda like a one button mouse!

but if you are looking for 4:3 then i do think the formac displays are very nice!

technocoy
 
ADC was a nice idea but if it's holding third-party support then it has to go. I will miss the advantage of only one cable. Those new video cards better be good and not last year's technology.
 
agentmouthwash said:
THE PROS:
(1) Same video cards as the windows world
(2) No expensive ADC-DVI converter
(3) More folks from the PC/Linux crowd will buy them, More $ for Apple


THE CONS:
2 cords instead of one.


Come on everybody get real! Who cares if it has 2 cords?
How many times do you plug and unplug the monitor from your
computer anyways?

No kidding...I would think that with DVIs as the standard, the displays should be cheaper..Let's hope...
 
technocoy said:
but i don't think that apple would do it for us designers only... and we are the only ones who would use this to any great extent. oh, well. but it also falls into the apple being hi-design arena. i guess they assume that if you REALLY hate their 16:9 ratio (or 16:10) that you can always go get a formac display or something... kinda like a one button mouse!

but if you are looking for 4:3 then i do think the formac displays are very nice!

technocoy
Or I guess dig deeper and go fo the 23"... :eek: My poor bank account. Anyways, I'll reserve judgement until I see the actual product on Apple's site with real life specs.
 
And a 17"?

Good news maybe, but since not every body need 30" of display, a cheaper 17" model could be nice. I'd like to see a 17" competitive with other available on the market. Up to now, Apple displays have always been a little bit higher in price than, for example, comparable Viewsonic models. :eek:

Especialy for someone like me looking at a 12" PB, no need for a 30" that will not work anyway with it! And no need for an aditional adaptor that make it even less competitive... :rolleyes:
 
uv23 said:
All I know is every other manufacturer's 20" offering that I've looked at gives 1600x1200.

Doesn't that mean they're not widescreen?
 
ooh, soon, I hope. I like the switch to DVI because now I don't have to buy a $100 adapter for my powerbook... just let us have them! :D
 
Loved ADC

I gotta say I loved ADC strictly for cable management. It would be nice if instead of ADC, they used some kind of breakout box that could be placed on the floor with FW, USB2, power, and video feeding into it and one cable to my monitor -- keeping my desk nice and neat.
 
uv23 said:
Right. If you noticed my earlier posts, widescreen means nothing to me. Or to anyone I work with.

And I am sure your workplace represents the broad spectrum of the possible market.
:rolleyes:
 
dontmatter said:
Does DVI mean that these will be PC compatible? I know some high end PC users who would be quite interested in apple screens... Although they want the 3 legged easel style to go, and I kinda agree.

Yes, it does indeed mean they would be compatible with PCs. Well, technically the other Apple displays were compatible as well, but PC users would have to buy a $100 ADC to DVI converter to utilize them.

As well, without an ADC connector to worry about, this should mean that the graphics cards companies should be able to churn out video cards for Apple with greater ease, with them only being DVI. Sure it's extra cables, but I'll ask the rhetoric question of "how many extra cables?" Exactly... ;)
 
Shame about the demise of ADC, I might have to dash out and get one of the current displays before they're EOL now.

I don't think I could juggle another power cable! I already have one for my:
Cable modem
Wireless router
Power Mac (G3)
Stereo

all those on a four-socket power strip, plus my mobile charger from time to time. Another permanent cable would fill me up!

You would think it's likely that at least the next revision of Power Macs will support ADC though, right?
 
Yes, no more ADC!
Yes, a smaller footprint!
Yes, USB 2.0 and Firewire hubs!

Finally, Apple listens to their customers.

Now let's hear all the dead-pixels complaints when they ship :D
 
It's not two cables instead of one, guys. It's four. DVI, power, USB, FireWire.

Hell with that.

In other news... how about putting a USB audio widget in the monitor so I can plug the speakers into the monitor instead of stringing a six-foot cable down to the floor?

Of course, if that makes it five cables instead of the present one, then forget I said anything.
 
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