New Apple Displays?

[Koodauw]

Well

I hope it is more stunning in person than it looks. I don't like the look of the new one at all. But its all good, cause I can pick up one of the older models (which I think are still cool lookin even if they are old) at a good price. I hope there is a 20'' cinema display in my future!

 

[lancerx78]

hmmm... is it possible that these displays might use wireless firewire? That would explain the presence of firewire ports...

 

[MegaSignal]

Reason #1 for dashing out to get an "older" 20-inch

One word: ugly.

I like the cut in half G5 Photoshop job that was circulating a couple of months ago.

Ugly, ugly, ugly.

Hey, did i say it's ugly?

Let's only hope that this drawing is inaccurate...

 

[Finiksa]

It's not two cables instead of one, guys. It's four. DVI, power, USB, FireWire.

Exactly!

That's one butt ugly solution to a non existent problem. If they insist on going to DVI I think it would have been a little more elegant and in keeping with Apple design philosophy to drop the USB and Firewire on the display.

 

[MegaSignal]

Bending to the market?

I would be very dissapointed if ADC is dropped. Who want's an additional powerpack and clutter on their desk?

ADC is one of the things that I love about Apple displays. One connector, no mess.

If ADC is truly dropped, so much for "thinking differently".

 

[etoiles]

doesn't the stand look a bit flimsy for a 30" screen ? Looks like the screen would tip over when you plug/unplug any devices...

I'd expect something a bit more sturdy, along the lines of Samsung's big LCD screens (more elegant, of course )

 

[Jeff Harrell]

Oh, hey, there's something else I forgot to mention in my previous comment.

According to Think Secret, the new displays will have a single arm instead of the present tripod design. That sounds bogus to me. Until recently, I had one of Viewsonic's high-end LCDs on my desk at work. It had a vertical arm that was joined to the back of the screen in the same basic way as illustrated on Think Secret. Every little move I made, even when just typing, was telegraphed into the desk, up the monitor's post, and into the screen. The result? My display was constantly jiggling slightly back and forth. It made me crazy.

The virtue of the present tripod design is that the display is rock-solid-stable.

I hope this rumor turns out to be false.

 

[Sun Baked]

It's not two cables instead of one, guys. It's four. DVI, power, USB, FireWire...

...Of course, if that makes it five cables instead of the present one, then forget I said anything.

Not to mention the extra cables needed for the HDTV tuner, and speakers (if you didn't add them before).

 

[uv23]

And I am sure your workplace represents the broad spectrum of the possible market.

As a book publisher, I'd say it represents a pretty good facet of the intended pro market, yes.

 

[Trekkie]

I would be very dissapointed if ADC is dropped. Who want's an additional powerpack and clutter on their desk?

ADC is one of the things that I love about Apple displays. One connector, no mess.

yeah but it's also the reason there's about three video cards for the PowerMac. Going DVI means anyone can make a display driver and off we go now. This is great news.

 

[uv23]

his workplace is a large part of the target market... he's a designer.

Thank you sir. As I said, I'm not just beating rocks together for the helluvit. It's a valid concern.

 

[cr2sh]

...or...your new G5 PowerBook

"The 30-inch model will only work with the Power Mac G5 and a high-end graphics card."

Did you even read the article?

While I don't believe the statement.. how is this screen going to tell the difference between a g5 and a powerbook dvi signal? Why would Apple do that? It makes no sense at all.

Also, I for one.. love that artist's rendition. That's what I've been wanting since day one...

I don't believe the firewire claim either.

 

[~Shard~]

It's not two cables instead of one, guys. It's four. DVI, power, USB, FireWire.

Hell with that.

You gotta think outside the box man - this is Apple - it'll have wireless firewire, wireless USB and wireless power - that leaves you with 1 cable - everything else will plug into an Airport Express...

 

[blackcrayon]

It's not two cables instead of one, guys. It's four. DVI, power, USB, FireWire.

Hell with that.

In other news... how about putting a USB audio widget in the monitor so I can plug the speakers into the monitor instead of stringing a six-foot cable down to the floor?

Of course, if that makes it five cables instead of the present one, then forget I said anything.

Or if you don't need to plug firewire devices into your monitor, you're down to 3. And if you don't need to plug USB devices into your monitor and can adjust the brightness and turn on the computer manually, you're down to 2.

The people that will go nuts because there are extra cables (you), will be fine with the horrible inconvenience of reaching for the computer instead of the display to plug in peripherals

 

[t^3]

You would think it's likely that at least the next revision of Power Macs will support ADC though, right?

Well, current PMG5's video cards have both ADC and DVI, so there should be no reason why new models couldn't support ADC. For those who are complaining about multiple cables, it might be possible to bundle all the cables in one larger cable, and at the end, have everything split off. Apple could also incorporate a power outlet in the next Power Macs which would help with the mess.

 

[charlesc]

It's not two cables instead of one, guys. It's four. DVI, power, USB, FireWire.

Hell with that.

In other news... how about putting a USB audio widget in the monitor so I can plug the speakers into the monitor instead of stringing a six-foot cable down to the floor?

Of course, if that makes it five cables instead of the present one, then forget I said anything.

If these rumors about the displays are true there will be TWO cables running out of the back of the monitor. There will be one thick cable running out of the monitor to your tower, at the tower end of the cable it will split into three connectors (FW, USB, DVI), and of course there will be a second (power) cable.

 

[dashiel]

I'm sick of this widescreen fad. Not everyone wants a big monior to watch DVDs on. Some of us need real estate on which to do actual work. And a lame vertical resolution isn't going to do me any good when I'm dealing with large indesign spreads.

uhm... if you're doing "spreads" wouldn't widescreen be a better choice anyway? as i recall (it's been ages since i've done print) a magazine spread is wider than it is longer, barring some bizarro format.

as someone else pointed out widescreen is not a fad, but rather a trend to display information is a format more akin to our natural vision. pretty much all motion/interactive media is widescreen. apple while not having given up on the print world, is no longer interested in innovation for that industry. video (as evidenced early on by their hyping oh imovie as the next DTP-esque revolution and the subsquent releases of FCP, motion, shake etc...) is where apple is focusing their efforts in terms of content creation.

and for what it's worth, there was plenty of really great design done back when macs were only capable of displaying a whopping 480 pixels of horizontal solution.

 

[crees!]

It's not two cables instead of one, guys. It's four. DVI, power, USB, FireWire.

Hell with that.

In other news... how about putting a USB audio widget in the monitor so I can plug the speakers into the monitor instead of stringing a six-foot cable down to the floor?

Of course, if that makes it five cables instead of the present one, then forget I said anything.

Actually it's six. DVI, Power, 2 USB and 2 FW. But you only need the DVI and Power to use the display... right? If so, don't get all fussy about something that's not available yet. I'm sure the USB and FW have other purposes behind them.

 

[cr2sh]

You gotta think outside the box man - this is Apple - it'll have wireless firewire, wireless USB and wireless power - that leaves you with 1 cable - everything else will plug into an Airport Express...

That's not thinking outside the box, that's thinking in circles. Why have wireless firewire in a display.. why not put it in revB powermacs... what, does it extend the range of the desktop sitting 3 feet away?

Maybe put airport in it.. god who knows, everything was so much simpler before airport express. You gotta have power, you gotta have dvi... why include anyother ports if 802.11g is available as well?

 

[DGFan]

his workplace is a large part of the target market... he's a designer.

Apple can't make its design decisions for cinema displays based on a portion of the designer market because:
1) it's a small market
2) some designers do want widescreen displays

Portait page layout is one of the few things where it may be a necessity to have a particular type of display. But, hey, if you're a specialist, get a specialty display. But widescreen is better for virtually everything....and everyone...else.

 

[Finiksa]

You gotta think outside the box man - this is Apple - it'll have wireless firewire, wireless USB and wireless power - that leaves you with 1 cable - everything else will plug into an Airport Express...

What, no wireless DVI?

That sucks… come on Apple innovate

 

[MegaSignal]

Well, current PMG5's video cards have both ADC and DVI, so there should be no reason why new models couldn't support ADC. For those who are complaining about multiple cables, it might be possible to bundle all the cables in one larger cable, and at the end, have everything split off. Apple could also incorporate a power outlet in the next Power Macs which would help with the mess.

That sounds like a mess - a "dog's breakfast" as another poster mentioned. Yuck! Oh well, guess those of us neat freaks (who don't need major computing horsepower) can always hope for a G5 iMac...

Now more than ever I'm truly thankful for picking up one of the last 20-inchers; goes along with the cabinet of my MDD G4 very nicely !

 

[locovaca]

Two points:

1. There's no reason that Apple has to make all the cables seperate! They'll probably just do a design similiar to the ADC now- one cable coming off of the monitor, but have it break out at the CPU end of things into the distinct components. Take a look at the ATI AIW line of cards- they don't have millions of svideo and component cables running into the card, but rather one cable that goes to a breakout box.

2. HD is going to suck on these monitors, and that's not what they were designed to do. Why? None of them are native HD resolutions. That means, if they scale the image, it's going to look like crap (you get fractions of pixels and such- take your LCD and knock the resolution down one step and you'll see what I mean)- the advantage of HD is the crystal clear, high resolution picture, and nobody is going to pay money to get a blurry picture. If they decide to just crop the picture your 30" monitor will quickly decrease in size, which will look better but people will still complain. So, I highly doubt that they will have HD input support on these, unless the resolutions are wrong.

 

[t^3]

Actually it's six. DVI, Power, 2 USB and 2 FW. But you only need the DVI and Power to use the display... right? If so, don't get all fussy about something that's not available yet. I'm sure the USB and FW have other purposes behind them.

Umm...just as the Apple Keyboard (with 2 USB ports) only uses 1 USB cable, I don't see why you would need one cable for each port. Ditto for FW.

 

[Finiksa]

Actually it's six. DVI, Power, 2 USB and 2 FW. But you only need the DVI and Power to use the display... right? If so, don't get all fussy about something that's not available yet. I'm sure the USB and FW have other purposes behind them.

No it would be four cables. The USB and Firewire would (presumably) use hubs, one cable each.

Sure you might not need to use the USB and Firewire but you'd still have the cables dangling off the back of the display. I somehow doubt Apple would make them detachable.