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is the reason for them not working because of hardware or software? If it is software they should fix that in 2.1 because im sure a lot of people will still buy these without knowing what they are getting into.
 
Fingers crossed that come Fridays 2.1 update they will change to being compatible with the iPhone.

If not it is simply crazy that they make a set of headphones with a mic and they will not work with the iPhone.:mad:

Since they earphones won't be available till October which is well after the 2.1 update, I doubt it will change on Friday....bummer
 
Thinking about it it isn't going to work after 2.1 is out as it is only compatible with 2nd generation Touch, and as 2.1 is already out for the Touch as an upgrade it means it must be a hardware issue.

Unbelievable that Apple releases new headphones for the next generation Touch but just forgot about or probably just didn't bother considering the iPhone 3G.

Update: More confusion as I just read the above article re the First Generation Touch having a different socket to the iPhone. As clear as mud.
 
Update: More confusion as I just read the above article re the First Generation Touch having a different socket to the iPhone. As clear as mud.

I have to say, I'd be very suprised if that article is correct about the Touch. Surely it's fourth headphone connector pin is the same as the iPhone's? It's never been used for AV out, that's what the dock is for.

Phazer
 
I know, I am just replying to some people saying that these are worse than other in-ear headphones. If they really won't work with the iPhone then yes, I agree. If they do (and it seems silly that they wouldn't) then these would be an option for A LOT of people now buying vibes.

I agree ... these would definitely be on my radar as a future purchase if they worked fine with the iPhone.
 
I have to say, I'd be very suprised if that article is correct about the Touch. Surely it's fourth headphone connector pin is the same as the iPhone's?

It's not saying that the fourth connector is different, it's saying that while the Touch uses the fourth connector for volume control, the iPhone uses it to switch songs or answer incoming calls.

It's never been used for AV out, that's what the dock is for.

Phazer

Actually, you are incorrect:
http://store.apple.com/us/product/M9765G/B
 
Awwww, shucks...

Apple expects to have 10million iPhone users by the end of the year and they don’t make these higher-grade ear-phones (with built-in mic!) compatible with the iPhone??? That’s just crazy! :confused:

There is STILL NO streamlined option to use a remote/mic with quality earphones on the iPhone without having a mess of tangled cables around you. The earphones you get with the iPhone are just awful.

I guess I might just get these new ones and live with the loss of volume control. Does anybody know if the mic will work with calls though?
 
I'm on the phone right now with an iPhone specialist and they haven't even heard about the new headphones. He's talking with a product specialist right now to check on compatibility with the iPhone.
He mentioned that he thought it was dumb to come out with headphones that have a mic that aren't compatible with the iPhone.
Basically, the product specialist agrees that its weird for apple to do something this stupid and that my best bet is to send apple an email, like that will do anything.
 
I really hope they make it compatible with 2.1. I'd buy them if they were.
 
I think 2.1 will allow us to use the in-ear headphones remote. I remember last year the iPod Touch users got some of the new features before the iPhone users did because of the firmware updates. Not to mention they headphones aren't coming out for at least a month so who knows?
 
im confused with these 2 headphones one is 29 and one is 79 dollars

which comes in the ipod touch box?

and what do they look like!
 
im confused with these 2 headphones one is 29 and one is 79 dollars

which comes in the ipod touch box?

and what do they look like!

The $29 ones are basically the same as the ones you got with all iPods up until today but with the volume control + Mic + clicker thing.

The $79 ones are totally redesigned dual driver in-ear headphones that also have the Volume + Mic + clicker thing
 
The $29 ones are basically the same as the ones you got with all iPods up until today but with the volume control + Mic + clicker thing.

The $79 ones are totally redesigned dual driver in-ear headphones that also have the Volume + Mic + clicker thing



and the 29 dollar ones come inside the new nano's shuffles, classics and ipod touches?
 
and the 29 dollar ones come inside the new nano's shuffles, classics and ipod touches?

i dont know for sure, but i would say no because the $29 ones are shipping in october, and nanos and touches are available as of today. if they were included, the earphones would probably be avaialble also, but they arent.
i might be wrong though, beacuse maybe only the standalone earphones are gonig to be shipping in october
 
Who cares, too many apple fanboys... when has apple made a decent set of earphones (Hi-Fi quality or SQ) or even fit-wise for that matter. Second they would definitely work as a set of plain earphones, but whether the "buttons" will work is to be seen.

If you want quality earphones search: headfi.org and you'll find very nice earphones with built-in mics and button (Ultimate Ears, Shure, Etymotic, etc...)
 
I know, I am just replying to some people saying that these are worse than other in-ear headphones. If they really won't work with the iPhone then yes, I agree. If they do (and it seems silly that they wouldn't) then these would be an option for A LOT of people now buying vibes.

Weird McDonald's* argument.
"A lot of people will buy these if [insert a non-audio feature] are working", isn't contradictory to what I'm saying – namely that the audio quality will be sub par.


*http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/appeal-to-popularity.html
 
Weird McDonald's* argument.
"A lot of people will buy these if [insert a non-audio feature] are working", isn't contradictory to what I'm saying – namely that the audio quality will be sub par.


*http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/appeal-to-popularity.html

Nothing weird here. Define sub-par. Even leaving out the iPhone argument, if these sound the same or better than some Vibes (which shouldn't be too hard) then they will appeal to a lot of people at that price point. I don't understand what your point is.
 
Nothing weird here. Define sub-par. Even leaving out the iPhone argument, if these sound the same or better than some Vibes (which shouldn't be too hard) then they will appeal to a lot of people at that price point. I don't understand what your point is.

Okay, you're right. It's not "weird". It's a straight-forward McD-argument.

Obviously, you didn't read the link.

1) We're talking audio quality in relation to:

2) price

1+2 How do you gauge quality vs. price? Well, by comparing it to similar priced items. And if they fall too short on quality compared to similarly priced or even lower priced items, they're subpar.

However, you cannot gauge quality of any given item by stating or referring to sales figures (i.e. popularity).
If you insist (which you appear to), I suggest you read the link I gave you. It's a site with logical fallacies (i.e. invalid arguments).
Your argument is what I call the McDonald's argument – an appeal to popularity: A: McDonald's sells a lot of meals. Ergo, McDonald's foods must be nutritious/good quality/insert-your-own-unrelated-claim-here.
 
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