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New Apple Mouse and Keyboard... Soon
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Grimace
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Regardless of whether you vote for a two-button mouse or defend Apple to the grave for being innovative by sticking to one, a new concept needs to come out.
The vast majority of PC users know and appreciate the two button concept. It does increase overall speed instead of apple-I or whatever. The best button feature on a mouse has been the side thumb buttons on the Microsoft intellimouse Opticals. When surfing the web, you can go "Back" and "Forward" without taking your hand off the mouse or moving the cursor up to the top menu. Seems silly, but it is sooooo nice. I can't seem to get that mouse to work with my PB at the moment...
The vast majority of PC users know and appreciate the two button concept. It does increase overall speed instead of apple-I or whatever. The best button feature on a mouse has been the side thumb buttons on the Microsoft intellimouse Opticals. When surfing the web, you can go "Back" and "Forward" without taking your hand off the mouse or moving the cursor up to the top menu. Seems silly, but it is sooooo nice. I can't seem to get that mouse to work with my PB at the moment...
Snowy_River
macrumors 68030
Well, for what it's worth, I have a 5 button Kensington and those side buttons drive me nuts. More often than not, I hit them when moving the mouse around, not when I want to. Oh well...
I am dyslexic!
I use a three button Logitech, and I will NEVER go back to one button. Apple will be really disappointing if they don't get with it and release a two button mouse. The scroll wheel would be great too. If you don't like two buttons, just use the one! But especially in os10 it makes way too much sense to have that context button! Not to mention the functionality you get in most of the 3rd party apps as well. Come on, Apple! Don't be schtupid!
I use a three button Logitech, and I will NEVER go back to one button. Apple will be really disappointing if they don't get with it and release a two button mouse. The scroll wheel would be great too. If you don't like two buttons, just use the one! But especially in os10 it makes way too much sense to have that context button! Not to mention the functionality you get in most of the 3rd party apps as well. Come on, Apple! Don't be schtupid!
I own an iBook. And the keyboard particularly annoys me. I look to the left side of the space bar and I see four keys (apple, option, control, function). I am not realy sure what any of them are for. Yes, I use them frequently but I am constantly getting confused.
My Apple mouse is in a drawer since I've bought the M$ Intellimouse.
I don't mind about Apple's mice but please put a power on/off key on the new keyboards!
Apple is regressing on that. My G4 is in a machine room and I have to get there to turn it on. Stupid!😡
I don't mind about Apple's mice but please put a power on/off key on the new keyboards!
Apple is regressing on that. My G4 is in a machine room and I have to get there to turn it on. Stupid!😡
I don't have a problem with single button or multiple button mice... either are just as functional to me. I do tend to use multibutton mice MORE on the peecee side of the world, because they are there. I simply do not see what new feature they COULD be adding to the mouse if it was not a button. USB2? Unnecessary. It has already been said it will not be bluetooth or anyother sort of wirelessness. Maybe it will have a microphone for the new iChat....
The keyboard, I'm not sure what could be added there either... maybe return the on/off Switch?
The keyboard, I'm not sure what could be added there either... maybe return the on/off Switch?
I could one up you and say I like a 3 buttoned mouse. Good for gaming. Though sometimes I do wish I had a scrolling wheel.
I had uses two button mice for years. And when I finally dicided to switch over and try the one button mouse I loved it. You can easily click with any finger you want. Not to mention it gives you left more to do. i personally think that in a two button world we would evolve to have to left arm.
Plus the one button mouse is like apple's TM. When i say that macs are better to my windows using friends, and their first comment is about the one button mouse.
Plus the one button mouse is like apple's TM. When i say that macs are better to my windows using friends, and their first comment is about the one button mouse.
For a good pro mouse replacement...
This is what I have:
http://www.kensington.com/html/1212.html
I don't use the 4 and 5 buttons except in games, so I don't have the drivers. I kinda miss chording, but using Apple's built in software which has the most magnificently refined acceleration curve is what makes any mac a joy to use. If MS ever got hold of that one graph of speed vs acceleration we're all screwed.
Anyway, It's a good mouse, my wheel is messed up, but it's been thru hell so i'll fogive it. Plus they repalced my last mouse for free so i'll let Kensington off the hook since i'll get apple's new mouse soon anyway (all i need is 2 buttons, hopefully instead of a wheel an analog tilt pad. Imagine that, instead of a wheel which is a non-acceleration based input you could get analog input. THink of it like a gas pedal. Pushing it doesnt control speed, it controls acceleration. If apple had that kind of thing everyone with "mac mice suck ill never get a mac bc im too stoopid to buy a new mouse" would suddent shut up :¬D)
This is what I have:
http://www.kensington.com/html/1212.html
I don't use the 4 and 5 buttons except in games, so I don't have the drivers. I kinda miss chording, but using Apple's built in software which has the most magnificently refined acceleration curve is what makes any mac a joy to use. If MS ever got hold of that one graph of speed vs acceleration we're all screwed.
Anyway, It's a good mouse, my wheel is messed up, but it's been thru hell so i'll fogive it. Plus they repalced my last mouse for free so i'll let Kensington off the hook since i'll get apple's new mouse soon anyway (all i need is 2 buttons, hopefully instead of a wheel an analog tilt pad. Imagine that, instead of a wheel which is a non-acceleration based input you could get analog input. THink of it like a gas pedal. Pushing it doesnt control speed, it controls acceleration. If apple had that kind of thing everyone with "mac mice suck ill never get a mac bc im too stoopid to buy a new mouse" would suddent shut up :¬D)
My brother has a Kensington Studio (wired) for his shiny new 17" i hate him for having it Powerbook. It's funny since i had the same idea (to use a trackpad instead of buttons and a wheel, same idea more or less) but i find it's not sensative enough. The actual mouse feels awesome though.
cool. only got to use it for 5 minutes. never got to use the albook (mouse came 1st, albook went to his university)
rainman::|:|
macrumors 603
i said that apple wasn't prepared to say that. i wasn't attributing opinion to it-- it's a pretty safe bet that this is part of why apple hasn't made a two-button.
Personally, if they got the design right, i don't think it would be bad to sell as an option. hell, i'd probably buy one before long. but i stand by the idea that new computer users appreciate the simplicity. Ever try to teach someone 60+ or under 8 how to use multiple buttons? I've seen senior citizens that couldn't manage a one-button mouse very well, the whole concept of pointing at things with it was foreign to them, and then they'd be too busy trying to hold the mouse still to worry about which finger to use... You seem to forget a big section of users-- those still completely computer illiterate. Macs have always been the computer of choice for people like this, and a one-button mouse is part of that.
IMHO 🙂
pnw
Once i had my PowerMac AGP and a iMac 266 side my side with apple system profiler. Both had the stock Apple USB KB/Mouse, and not one of the 4 manufacturers was the same. Heh, funny.
If the new "scrolling technology" is to be incorporated in mice, would it be introcuced in the Fall along with a new line of PowerMacs?
Then again, it wouldn't make sense to make new mice and keyboards now if that's the case.
.....wait.....that previous story mentioned nothing about a second button.....
Hmmmmm, new mouse with scrollwheel anyone?
Then again, it wouldn't make sense to make new mice and keyboards now if that's the case.
.....wait.....that previous story mentioned nothing about a second button.....
Hmmmmm, new mouse with scrollwheel anyone?
Well, yes and no. I have one, and it bugs me for the following reasons:
- It just feels strange. No matter how I adjust the mouse speed and tracking options, it feels like it's very hard to use it accurately. Move it left a bit, then move it right the same bit and you get nowhere near offsetting actions.
- There's a bad delay between the time you move it and the time when it "wakes up" after being inactive for more than a few seconds.
- If you forget about putting it back in the cradle, and it runs out of batteries, you're just out of luck. This happens to me often enough that I find that I need to keep a wired mouse handy in the desk drawer next to this machine to plug in when the RF dies (my aqua hockey-puck apple mouse lives to annoy another day!)
- Although it looks beautiful, it doesn't feel that expensive.
The grass is always greener, I suppose.
Keyboard Changes?
Unless Apple is just changing the look of the keyboard, perhaps it's adding some speciality buttons to support its iApps?
Unless Apple is just changing the look of the keyboard, perhaps it's adding some speciality buttons to support its iApps?
