New Apple Mouse and Keyboard... Soon

[ewinemiller]

Re: Re: Danger Wil Robinson! Danger!

Originally posted by jeffberg
And about Windows being easy until you get to photoshop, you need to ****ing right click to rename something in windows ok, that is what happens when you have 2 buttons, people expect you to use them. On our macs we just hit return or even easier, click on the name, and we can rename it, no need to right click go into a contextual menu like you do in windows.

Actually, it works the same way in Windows. You select the object, click on the name and you can edit it. In Explorer, you also have the menu File|Rename. No context required. Last time I read the Windows UI guidelines (granted it's been years), context menus are in addition to regular menus and actions, not to replace them. I don't think any of the applications I use on a daily basis break that.

 

[Mr Jobs]

Since its not totally related to this thread i've started a new on regarding the apple mouse and their new mouse patent,

https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=25488

 

[TheT]

The previously available sites apple.com/keyboard and apple.com/mouse are no longer available... as of now, there's a redirect to the Apple Store. Possibly something new today? A "communicating" mouse/keybaord? Bluetooth? We'll see...

 

[mkaake]

Originally posted by MorganX
I personally think this whole argument is silly. Even dumb users aren't that dumb. there are more novices using two-buttons on cheap PCs than there are Mac users period.

Apple needs to get over it and move forward, but Steve Jobs' has mental problems.

you obviously don't have grandparents who want to be on the cutting edge of technology but have no idea how to get there...

matt

 

[jayb2000]

either is fine

OK, so some people want 1-button, some want 2.
Personally, I have used Apple IIe up to iMac G3, plus Windows and *nix. Some times multiple buttons are nice and sometimes they are a pain.

I generally use the Logitech wireless keyboard and mouse (3 buttons and wheel). I love it for web surfing because I can do anything (except type) while drinking coffee with my other hand.

However, for my parents and other people who have never used a mouse the Which Button?" question is really a pain, especially when UIs are not consistent. By forcing the 1-button issue, Apple mandates a consistent UI. (well, not 100%, but better than MS).

2 (or 3 or 5) button mice, wireless, etc are not needed to run OS X and are available as options. For people with no experience to computers (including play stations or any other experience) 1 button is simpler.

I suppose one comprimise would be ship a mouse with 2 buttons, but unless you change it in control panel, they do the same thing.😀 😀

 

[yzedf]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Huh?

Originally posted by BaghdadBob
Well, I disagree. Let's not forget that Apple was at one time the most poplular brand for education. Also, people who hate/don't have time to *** with computers but can afford a Mac. They like them too.

Plus, I think a POWER USER can be expected to buy the mouse of their liking. Especially because different professionals have different needs. To some, a two-button mouse (even with a scroll wheel) is almost as useless as a one-button mouse.

All the people who have said "Ah just don't know what ah would do with'aut mah fahv button mouse" wouldn't give a good goddamn if they got a two-button mouse with their mac, they'd STILL have to buy a new one. So who are you pleasing then?

Plus, please don't forget the UI issue. This cannot be stressed enough. Developers will start getting lazy if they can depend on a two-or-better button mouse, and that lowest-common-denomenator, who the mac DOES appeal to, will be left with one less friendly interface. There really is a tremendous amount of evidence to this regard.

I'm right, you're all wrong, even those of you who agree with me, just don't bother to post, this is my personal soapbox anyway 😛

I am guessing that POWERUSERS are the ones that are still buying PowerMacs... especially the dual 1.42 🙄

Apple doesn't have them for one good reason; style.

The UI argument is crap. A UI that requires 2 drastic different styles of inputting data (keyboard and mouse) is bad. That is all that there is to it. Remember, Apple is the company that put the power switch on the keyboard, and nobody could figure it out! Intuitive, or just plain stupid?

My soapbox is taller than your soapbox (and I am prolly taller than you also).