Astuces iOS
macrumors 68030
Well it can't for now and I don't think it could since there is no wifi chip like the other guy said.
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Astuces iOS
macrumors 68030
Yeah ik why there is a chip inside of it and why it has storage, it's just crazy that it has better specs than m1 and cannot run macOS for now lol
Apple views it as niche? That is very twisted. Laptops sell way more than desktops in the Windows world also. It is a user (i.e., the market) thing not a vendor thing. If you take Apple out of the equation and it is still there ... it is not an "Apple" thing.
JPack
macrumors P6
Because it uses standard BGA315 chips.
Same reason why shops across China were able to upgrade iPhone 17 Pro to 2TB days after the device was available.
iPhone 13-17 use the same type of NAND package.
tomtad
macrumors 68040
20,000 songs in your screen
But those are ports for the host system that is attached to the Thunderbolt upstream port. There is a specific "uptream" port on these new displays'
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- One upstream Thunderbolt 5 port () for host (with 96W host charging)
The A-series is 'managing' the ports it isn't necessarily provisioning them. (i.e., just setting metadata configuration settings on chips that do actually do the provisioning. )
Decent chance the A-series is hooked to the USB hub present. ( to get updates and funnel camera/mic data down ) . But that is still in the context of the host pulling data from the hub through the PCI-e link. ( The A-series is just a client on USB bus , not the host. ) . If the Mac is turned on and running how that work? The dongle is hooked to the Mac not the Display.
Thanks for your post and am happy to hear your assessment. Even though I have the previous generation Studio Display and am very pleased with it, I am noodling getting an XDR. Just need to think on it some more.
JPack
macrumors P6
At this price, Apple doesn't need to bin anything. It's about $600 more than a comparable BenQ 5K. Yes, the Apple specs are better but not $600 better.
it is extremely strange apple didn’t cut costs on the SoC here.
it is disturbing, because…yeah…it could work as an imac.
it is disturbing, because…yeah…it could work as an imac.
Maybe we could get a Studio Display NEO next?
If they have the budget to put an A19 and 128GB SSD inside a monitor there should be a lot of room for cost-cutting and a more affordable Studio Display.
If they have the budget to put an A19 and 128GB SSD inside a monitor there should be a lot of room for cost-cutting and a more affordable Studio Display.
Ted_Appleseed
macrumors regular
Given these configurations, I would love to see the display still mainly function as a display with Mac/iPad, while also running a lightweight OS with a GUI when used as a standalone device, with some basic functionalities. I'm not asking for it to be like an iMac - it could be just a simplified version of macOS or iPadOS, or even tvOS. The XDR version could already be a great movie player with HDR enabled - straight from Apple TV (service) or Netflix. It could also be used as a Home Hub and security cam, since it is plugged in all the time.
Lots of potential, and I see many opportunities are wasted at this time. The good thing is that if they want to implement any of these, they could be done by OTA updates.
Lots of potential, and I see many opportunities are wasted at this time. The good thing is that if they want to implement any of these, they could be done by OTA updates.
Pretty good chance it is camera and sound as opposed to video "in" processing that is being done here. A-series SoCs don't really have DisplayPort video 'in' ports. Camera 'in' yes, but not in DisplayPort format. Video out, but video 'in' not so much in the monitor context.
I suspect there is some aspect to Apple Intelligence that hasn't panned out yet at play here, but again that isn't the DisplayPort in 'handling' dataflow.
A-series doesn't have thunderbolt either. So some discrete TB controller pulling out the DisplayPort stream to be consumed here.
Usually there is a monitor processors for running the "On Screen Controls" but Apple doesn't believe in buttons on the Display or multiple inputs. In addition to meta configuration managing the inputs/ports and other stuff. The A19 is pretty large overkill for that. But Apple can weave it into the price and make folks pay ( if choose to by the monitor).
It is economies of scale but it is about helping Apple at least as much as it is about helping the customers of the product. If a small market to offload probably partially defect A19 chips to. (e.g., a major defect could be the display controller subsystem since no local images to present. Apple display controllers are not minimally small, so they will absorb some defects. ) The RAM/NAND just somes along for the ride ( and the costs, usually, passed along. sudden RAM/NAND 'drama' Apple may have to eat some it temporarily. If they sell the display for 4-6 years it won't make a difference long term. ) .
Non-Euclidean
macrumors 6502a
Good evening everyone. A simple question. Good for the updated processor, the larger RAM memory, like the NAND one. Excellent Thunderbolt ports in step with the times, the webcam improved as well as the audio, which was already excellent. All improvements appreciable for a new purchase. But speaking of the primary use of a monitor, that is, the screen, the performance of the panel, the visual quality, the colors and these things, is there anyone who has tested the difference if this exists between the 2022 and 2026 model not XDR?
skeptech
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Long ago when the Mac was based on the mc68000 family of processors, and "monitors" were really big, dumb, stupid, lead-lined CRTs, Apple produced an "accelerated" NuBus graphics card called the "8•24 GC" with a general purpose AMD Am29000 processor in it:
lowendmac.com
What ran on the Am29000 was a "port" of QuickDraw, to which all calls (from both MacOS & apps) to QuickDraw on the Mac main processor were handed off, i.e., a full-on "graphics co-processor" which processed graphics in parallel with the CPU. In today's world, we'd call that a GPU, even though the Am29000 was general purpose processor (not specifically optimized for graphics).
Cool bit: adding an 8•24 GC card to your Mac not only accelerated graphics for its directly attached monitor, but also for every other monitor attached to a display card on the NuBus because NuBus, you see, permitted multiple "bus masters" which meant that the Am29000 in the 8•24 GC could directly manipulate & accelerate every graphics "frame buffer" in the system, just like the main CPU - equal access.
Pretty cool for its time. I really wish Apple had kept that software up to date, but they didn't: it died in the transition to "32-bit clean" systems because no one did the work.
What does this have to do with ARM processors in modern Apple displays?
Um, guess what they're most likely doing: offloading graphics processing that can be better (more efficiently) done "nearer" to the display (on the other side of a latency & bandwidth constrained Thunderbolt bus) than in shared main RAM of your Apple Silicon (which, yes, has GPU cores itself), so as to spread processing tasks over even more processors, for best performance & throughput. After all, Apple doesn't have to tell us where the METAL graphics processing is done: their own proprietary drivers can split up the work as needed or desired based on available hardware (which, obviously, varies by purchased system configuration).
See also eGPU. However, also beware the "wheel of reincarnation" (an important observation on the evolution of graphics processing in 1968 from the father of computer graphics, Ivan Sutherland).
Macintosh Display Card 8•24 GC - Low End Mac
The Macintosh Display Card 8•24 GC is an accelerated 12″ NuBus video card compatible with 68020– and 68030-based Macs. Acceleration is not available if the card is installed in a 68040-based Mac – in fact, the 8•24 GC control panel will bomb the computer. The card’s driver version 1.0 software...
lowendmac.com
What ran on the Am29000 was a "port" of QuickDraw, to which all calls (from both MacOS & apps) to QuickDraw on the Mac main processor were handed off, i.e., a full-on "graphics co-processor" which processed graphics in parallel with the CPU. In today's world, we'd call that a GPU, even though the Am29000 was general purpose processor (not specifically optimized for graphics).
Cool bit: adding an 8•24 GC card to your Mac not only accelerated graphics for its directly attached monitor, but also for every other monitor attached to a display card on the NuBus because NuBus, you see, permitted multiple "bus masters" which meant that the Am29000 in the 8•24 GC could directly manipulate & accelerate every graphics "frame buffer" in the system, just like the main CPU - equal access.
Pretty cool for its time. I really wish Apple had kept that software up to date, but they didn't: it died in the transition to "32-bit clean" systems because no one did the work.
What does this have to do with ARM processors in modern Apple displays?
Um, guess what they're most likely doing: offloading graphics processing that can be better (more efficiently) done "nearer" to the display (on the other side of a latency & bandwidth constrained Thunderbolt bus) than in shared main RAM of your Apple Silicon (which, yes, has GPU cores itself), so as to spread processing tasks over even more processors, for best performance & throughput. After all, Apple doesn't have to tell us where the METAL graphics processing is done: their own proprietary drivers can split up the work as needed or desired based on available hardware (which, obviously, varies by purchased system configuration).
See also eGPU. However, also beware the "wheel of reincarnation" (an important observation on the evolution of graphics processing in 1968 from the father of computer graphics, Ivan Sutherland).
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Mac_MD-PhD
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chars1ub0w
macrumors 6502a
For a few dollars more, these can be 27" iMacs. But, we can't allow that to happen like we can't allow M4 iPad Pros to run macOS.
the 2026 and 2022 'plain' Studio are the same in terms of display. The additional processor stuff is primarily for camera and audio.
The XDR screen has a reviews.
https://www.macrumors.com/review/studio-display-xdr/
and whitepaper
https://www.macrumors.com/2026/03/10/studio-display-xdr-paper-reveal-new-color-systems/
The marketing page for the two displays has a side-by-side brief feature comparison (scroll down a bit to "Which Display is right for you" portion )
Displays
Choose your monitor. Studio Display is great for creators and everyday users. Studio Display XDR is perfect for pros.
www.apple.com
Probably not. Reviews say that the XDR blows pretty warm even with just a A19 Pro (that probably gets no where near even half utilization. ). Too much heat to the panel in XDR version and color quality may not stay as uniform.
Likely would need a different enclosure. Also likely need more enclosure adaption to do Wifi. (this has no general network connectivity). Would also be on slippery slope where iMac punted the power supply out of the enclosure it the 'thinness' politburo got ahold the redesign.
Apple could blow the dust off the old iMac Pro enclosure and ship that but it wouldn't be just a few dollars more in cost.
JPack
macrumors P6
What exactly would be the selling point against a Dell QHD monitor that costs hundreds less? Neo sells itself because the price and performance is intended for everyday productivity. Who fits in that category while needing 5K or even 4K?