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New Apple Studio Displays Double Internal Storage to 128GB
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Spock
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The quickest way to a more inexpensive Display would be to drop the camera and the speakers.
No A-series at all would be even more affordable.
The major disconnect is that Apple really doesn't want to compete in that space. The Neo is going to work for several years because Acer/Asus/Dell/HP/etc all didn't expect Apple to hit this price point at this level of quality. If they responds and there are more than few alternatives that don't give up on quality and hit incrementally lower price points then ... Apple may very well retreat. Apple is not looking for lots of competition in more of a commodity context.
Even Apple's Thunderbolt Display from 2011 was $999.
Apple 27" Thunderbolt Displays Shipping to Stores
MacRumors has learned that Apple is beginning to ship the new 27" Thunderbolt Display to stores and resellers this week. This means that customers should be able to see and buy the devices very soon. We haven't yet heard any news about early customer orders shipping, but expect those to follow...
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That is still $400 higher than a MB Neo. The general market rate affordable 27" display is closer to the Neo's price than to the old price point that Apple sold 27" Docking Displays.
GadgetVirtuoso
macrumors member
So I've got a pair of the first Studio Displays that I got from a previous employer. The speculation was that Apple already has memory in the 64GB configuration on hand so it was cheaper for them to use that RAM, even if the monitors only need 2GB. Upping the memory would imply they're doing something more and the OS they're loading on them needs more.
Parowdy
macrumors 68000
Furthermore, does that mean that the displays are basically iMac Neos?
It would be so great being able to utilize the chips and storage in the displays to offload files, some automations or even have a local LLM running.
Apple could do so much crazy power user stuff but definitely won’t until they run out of other features to sell every couple of years.
Let us run tvOS! That or start cracking heads to get the big streaming apps supported on macOS. Having to be relegated to lesser quality streaming via the browser on Macs is a bummer.
Parowdy
macrumors 68000
Ooooor, they just use the chips they currently manufacture anyway.
I don’t expect Apple to do anything else with these displays for quite some time, but of course I hope I’m wrong.
There is no guarantee that the display controllers on those A19/A19Pro work. Won't be much of a Mac if it can't display any output to the screen.
Probably should not assume that these are 100% perfect working order chips. As long as the relatively narrow subset of software that the Studio Displays run , they can be a very good fit for that context. The working chip features needed for a general usage Mac are much broader.
Parowdy
macrumors 68000
Parowdy
macrumors 68000
Yeah that’s a very fair assumption. It would make lots and lots of sense if Apple kept their faulty units and made them operate less demanding hardware. I think they did that with the Home Pod as well.
What_Is_George
macrumors member
iMac display isn’t as good as the Studio Display XDR, but the regular one is almost an identical panel? 4.5 vs 5k isn't a drastic change, 500 vs 600 nits peak brightness is basically a wash, and a whole 3 inches bigger all for like $300 more. It isn't a computer as well.
The XDR one is a way better panel and genuinely an interesting display. Now that it all comes with a stand for the price it is at, it is a whole different league compared to the standard one and the iMac. However, the base model one is marginally better than the iMac. If the iMac had Target Display Mode like they used to, it would be a better value to buy an iMac than a Studio Display (non-XDR).
This is kinda nuts. You literally have a fully blown iOS system in your monitor (which somewhat explains the high prices). It's honestly a bit bizarre that Apple isn't doing anything (as far as we know) with the hardware capabilities in the monitor. I'm not really sure how useful it would be, but it'd be kinda cool to for the monitors to function as something akin to an Apple TV when no device is plugged in to it. There's some pretty decent games for iOS that would run really well on A19/A19 Pro...
AgeOfSpiracles
macrumors 6502a
Having more A-series chips laying around than you know what to do with is honestly pretty wild.... they can just throw them into random device, and now a smart speaker has more compute than many people's desktop PC's. Crazy.
Who fits in that category? I do 🙂
The Studio Display is good, but a little too expensive for the average user. I had the original Thunderbolt Display, several 5K iMacs, but could not bring myself to splurge on the Studio Display. I now use an LG 4K with a M2 mini. It's working fine, the image quality is decent, but I really miss Apple's sound system.
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gothicgeek
macrumors member
I have never understood why these monitors need iPhone chips in them, I understand even less why they 128gb of storage. Apple should make a more affordable version of this that doubles as an Apple TV, the could call it the Apple TV Display.
kiranmk2
macrumors 68020
I would have loved to see Apple release 24 & 27" versions of the display with MacOS support built-in (performance level likely above the MacBook Neo) with the option to then conenct a separate Mac via Thunderbolt (Mac Mini/Studio) for more power. I could even see a large power output over USB-PD/Thunderbolt to allow a single cable connection to a Mac Mini or even a Mac Studio (although that one might be challenging).
So many potentially great rumours, but it would be funny if it ends up being just:
- 128GB modules were the cheapest ones that required not engineering work to get working on the A19 Pro? 🙂
Except for the lack of bluetooth and wifi, it is quite the $3500 iMac Neo 😛
- 128GB modules were the cheapest ones that required not engineering work to get working on the A19 Pro? 🙂
Except for the lack of bluetooth and wifi, it is quite the $3500 iMac Neo 😛
Kobayagi
macrumors 6502a
Since they claim to care so much about the environment, target display mode really should have returned. It would reduce waste significantly. But in the end, they’re only in it for the money (no surprise there). If the environment truly mattered to them, they would have lowered the price of iPhones by the cost of the charger once it was no longer included. Instead, you now have to buy the charger separately, and this way, it comes with even more packaging. This is just one of the many examples of Apple's greed and penny-pinching.
Seems like it could be an option.
Much like using an iMac as an external display.
Would be nice.
It would be cool if we could actually use this as attached storage. Not because it'd do much, not with the 64 GB in my 2022 Studio Display, but because it would simply be cool.
roklanhavok
macrumors regular
Seems like a way more powerful chip and storage needed to power a camera and a USB hub...
It's really surprising Apple doesn't put that hardware to use....posssibly allowing Apple TV OS including Airplay (even if it's limited to a reduced resolution and 60 FPS)...
It's really surprising Apple doesn't put that hardware to use....posssibly allowing Apple TV OS including Airplay (even if it's limited to a reduced resolution and 60 FPS)...