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some people prefer not to connect their tv's to the internet because they are such advertising and surveillance nightmares and only use Apple TV box for everything. also no need to change inputs
To add, if you connect to soundbar or in a home theatre set up, Apple TV or other set-up boxes usually have a better sound output level than going through eARC or ARC HDMI port of the TV.
 
So, I have my Apple TV 4k (3rd generation) connected by HDMI connection to my Onkyo TX-SR313 receiver and that is connected to a modest 5.1 theater speaker system, are you telling me that when playing music through Apple Music tvOS I am receving lossless audio on my speaker system?
I think it is lossless but not hi-res lossless.

 
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I think it is lossless but not hi-res lossless. So practically it may not matter to most people. The streams are limited to 48khz for Apple TV? Correct me if I'm am wrong.

I believe that you have it correct
 
AirPlay supports lossless audio. Apple Music itself does not, but lossless is available on the Apple Music tvOS app via an HDMI connection.
AirPlay 1 did, AirPlay 2 does not. AirPlay 2 gets lossy compressed for better/more reliable performance.
 
The power of the device can utilize the iPad Mac, or iPhones computation which means this Apple TV device doesn’t need updated for more power because you already update your other devices so it can utilize their computation via WiFi direct using WiFi 7.

Wut?
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If you’re gonna use the device to that level, why not just play things from the device with AirPlay?
 
WiFi 7 is pointless, full stop, at least for this sort of device. There isn't a need to support multi-gig speeds, when streaming is barely 25/Mbps.
Apple TV+ streams between 50-80Mbps. Not Gigabit territory but it’s far higher than all the rest of the streaming services.
 
My Apple TV 4k is from 2017 and I can't even begin to think why I would bother upgrading it. We have it in the exercise room for Glo, Youtube workouts and Apple Fitness.



Wife and kids never cared for the Apple TV interface, so we have a Roku on the main TV. I have all the tracking and ads firewalled.
If you have a more recent TV with an updated HDMI spec, you would still benefit from the upgrade to today's model. I didn't know we were missing HDR10+ on both of our TVs until we upgraded to the 2022 model.
 
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Everything always seems be “launching later this year or next year”. Tim Cook should change his name to Tim Can’t because he’s systematically killed off all the excitement of being an Apple fan with lacklustre updates and no new products.

Tim CookED
 
If you have a more recent TV with an updated HDMI spec, you would still benefit from the upgrade to today's model. I didn't know we were missing HDR10+ on both of our TVs until we upgraded to the 2022 model.

I would’ve updated my original 2017 4K models if they weren’t charging such gouge pricing just to get ethernet still
 
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IMHO, Apple does not really need to release a new iPhone every single year... but I guess the habit is harder to kick than cigarettes or pot.(while I have never smoked either one, I 've seen how additive it is.... my uncle smoked 2 packs per day!!! expensive and nasty... and while I was sitting next to him as a 10 year old boy back in the day)
I've smoked weed daily for 10years and when it was legal in Canada, I quit, over 5 years now, it isn't addictive.
 
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Wish there was more talk here of the potential for the AppleTV to serve as a Router with this new WIFI 7 chip...like we read a few weeks back.


Cmon Apple re-enter the router space!
 
I wasn't aware that the current Apple TV suffered from a slow and unreliable Wi-Fi connection and had poor latency problems

I wasn't aware of streaming services providing content at more than 10Gbps. Or does it mean the new AppleTV can be used in a television or movie production facility? :cool:
 
Cool, with WiFi 7, I can watch a 12-minute YouTube cat video in only 5 minutes.

Seriously, I think a TV box is the only case where no one will notice the faster WiFi.
Eh the lower latency and what not would be noticeable.
 
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I think it is lossless but not hi-res lossless.

Thanks for the link tip, I changed Apple Music to lossless on my home theater system. I don't quite understand why Apple does not advertise this easy way to obtain their lossless quality sound.
 
Honestly just add high sound quality, throw an M chip or the chip the IPad Mini got so you can play games like resident evil and watch this be pretty successful.
 
wifi 6e or wifi 7 are a welcome improvement. If you have ISP with faster speed, a proper wifi 7 or 6e router,/wifi mesh and a good reception where your Apple TV sits, it is faster than the ethernet port on Apple TV which I believe it is at most 1000M aka 1G port.

But if you can offload that traffic from the wifi altogether it's even better. Then it's not competing at all for the air.
 
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wifi 6e or wifi 7 are a welcome improvement. If you have ISP with faster speed, a proper wifi 7 or 6e router,/wifi mesh and a good reception where your Apple TV sits, it is faster than the ethernet port on Apple TV which I believe it is at most 1000M aka 1G port.

But if you can offload that traffic from the wifi altogether it's even better. Then it's not competing at all for the air.
Definitely. A streaming box doesn't need anything close to 1G but does compete with other devices in a home. In general the more devices you can connect to ethernet the better for the remaining devices. One thing I like about streaming using my Xfinity TV box is that it reaches the internet using it's own dedicated cable modem using the TV coax connected so it doesn't use my wifi (or ethernet to router).
 
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