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I'm sure it's more complex than what I imagine, but I always had the impression that Amazon was all about content, which is why they supposedly "take a hit" on their hardware. It seems like they would want their content on as many platforms as possible.
Again, probably more complex than what I care to think about. I'm cool without Prime and like others have mentioned, AirPlay works just fine.

That used to be true, but nowadays every technology company thinks they must be in every part of the technology industry.

- Apple makes a smartphone. Google makes a smartphone. Facebook makes a FB-branded phone. Amazon makes a phone.
- Apple makes laptops and smartphones. Google makes smartphones, therefore they must also make a laptop.
- Tesla makes a car. Google makes a car. Now even Apple is supposedly making a car.

It's insane. Startups don't really have much of a chance to make it to market in the big technology areas any more. The big, established companies are branching out in to every single area and buying up smaller companies before they can ever turn in to viable enterprises of their own.

We're going to get more and more of these, as these companies grow and integrate further only with their own in-house products and services.

I don't really like that future. For example - I don't like that Apple now makes maps. Apple isn't a mapping company, and that entire mapping service is there basically as one tiny feature of one or two products. I think innovation happens better when businesses are smaller, more focussed and independent. For example, Apple's mapping business could independently make deals to license its content and improve the service if it didn't have the constraints of being a small cog. Transit directions were heavily delayed and even now the coverage is small. Maps may kind of be an exception with the rumoured Apple Car, but my point is that I don't expect Apple to keep innovating with every little service 5 years after they launch.

They haven't really done much with iBooks in recent years, for example. As an independent company, that service would be much more aggressively fighting Amazon.
 
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With these types of devices, always go with wired(cable), you would have a much better experience streaming media, without having to worry about wireless interference and lagging.
I have had Apple TVs since the first edition and have 2 version 3s. All have ran wirelessly without issues. They are made for this and I refuse to run wire through 3 floors of house. So no you don't "always" go with wired.
 
Had wireless and Netflix and iTunes HD streaming, no issues at all.. as long as signal is reason-able even at 1 bar in Apple TV Setting, General, About.
 
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I'm from the UK and it has categories on the iPhone so should do here, maybe it's just not up and running properly yet
did you not read the description from Apple? it clearly says that Categories on the new Apple TV isn't available everywhere. Has nothing to do with the iPhone or what the App Store there has...
 
Is FireTv really big enough to compete with Apple TV and Chromecast?

I thought no one uses FireTV
 
I wonder if iMore knows the melody of the song in their video was also used in The Sims 2 a decade ago.
 
Really digging the new ATV. I had given my two ATV's away to family and a friend, so it's been awhile since I have used one. This one is so much more better.
I love how you can run Safari on your iPhone or iPad and everything (videos, etc..) mirrors beautifully on the TV.
Oh, and Siri is really good so far.
And cannot forget the volume control is also a great add.
Amazon prime videos mirror just fine to the TV as well.

Hi, can you elaborate for us old timers how you mirror the Amazon prime videos on the new Apple TV? I'm waiting for mine to ship and would love to be able to do that. I tried looking for airplay on my ipad air2, ipod touch 5th gen and ipad mini 3 but couldn't find it.

Thanks.
 
Hi, can you elaborate for us old timers how you mirror the Amazon prime videos on the new Apple TV? I'm waiting for mine to ship and would love to be able to do that. I tried looking for airplay on my ipad air2, ipod touch 5th gen and ipad mini 3 but couldn't find it.
Normally you just swipe up from the bottom of the screen on your iThing and there should be an AirPlay icon there. Tap that and select your Apple TV.
 
"Amazon removed the Apple and Google streaming media players because they are incompatible with its Prime Video streaming service, which it believes may cause confusion for customers."

Worst excuse ever for abusing market dominance. They probably also don't want all those Prime users getting their free movies (since they won't buy any if they can use a nicer service instead to buy). My family has Prime, so we wish it would work with the Apple TV without having to use AirPlay.
 
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Is FireTv really big enough to compete with Apple TV and Chromecast?

I thought no one uses FireTV

a lot of ppl use the FireTV...the thing is dirt cheap. Hell I know ppl that actually sell it with Kodi installed for $100. Kodi is the reason so many ppl are buying it.


lol at canceling Amazon Prime membership because they won't sell the Apple TV. Straight lies...ppl saying that BS never had Prime in the first place or already had plans to cancel for other reasons. Know way in hell would I cancel my membership when I shop through Amazon a lot during the holidays. Also Netflix is missing to much and getting rid of to good stuff for me to cancel my Prime membership.
 
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Stuff Amazon, they're idiots, their loss. Box shifters < innovators and pioneers.
 
Why not? That makes no sense
i have no idea. i'm not saying i understand why it's that way, i was simply pointing out that one of your listed annoyances with the new Apple TV isn't something that they left out of the new Apple TV. It's there, but as they noted it's not available in all areas.

A lot of people seem to be confused over this, i even read it in someone's review of the device
 
So because Amazon is too lazy to submit an app for the Apple TV and Chromecast that somehow equates to those devices being "incompatible" with their service? What exactly do they want Apple and Google to do, write the app for them?
 
i have no idea. i'm not saying i understand why it's that way, i was simply pointing out that one of your listed annoyances with the new Apple TV isn't something that they left out of the new Apple TV. It's there, but as they noted it's not available in all areas.

A lot of people seem to be confused over this, i even read it in someone's review of the device

Well I hope it's not going to be forever, otherwise it's gonna be nearly impossible to find certain apps. I'm sure it will come at some point
 
Amazon deciding to not sell AppleTV themselves, sure, fine. Not tweaking their app to run on it is kicking a bit of sand in the face of Prime-subscribing AppleTV owners (sure, could AirPlay it, but we finally almost had everything in one place). Declaring the AppleTV persona non grata on their website, even for 3rd-patrty sellers? That's just petty. Unless... unless Amazon is seriously worried about AppleTV taking over the cable / set-top / streaming business the way that iTunes took ver music sales, and they're digging in their heels to try to stop the inevitable (like remember when the major record labels started allowing un-DRM'ed music for every seller _except_ Apple, to try to lessen iTunes' importance in the marketplace?).

Up until now, Prime videos in the Amazon app's have just been a matter of, "log into your existing Amazon account". I wonder if they're worried that Aplle might insist they make it possible to purchase Amazon Prime through an Amazon Video app on the AppleTV? Losing 30% (or even 15% if more palatable deals for media go through) of $99 per customer, to Apple, could be painful for Amazon.
 
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Does Apple claim that it sells everything from "A to Z", even incorporating that slogan into their logo with an arrow running from an "a" to a "z"?

i dont think a-z is their actual slogan but who takes a logo this seriously? and long before throwing the atv and chromecast out amazon didnt actually carry every possible product.
 
Amazon Prime videos mirrors beautifully on the ATV
Glad to hear, cause the quality sucks on the last gen. I didn't want to get the fire stick or a new tv (current one is 7+ yrs old) w/ built in Amazon app, or blu-ray player for that matter.
 
Up until now, Prime videos in the Amazon app's have just been a matter of, "log into your existing Amazon account". I wonder if they're worried that Aplle might insist they make it possible to purchase Amazon Prime through an Amazon Video app on the AppleTV? Losing 30% (or even 15% if more palatable deals for media go through) of $99 per customer, to Apple, could be painful for Amazon.

Why would Apple do that? They don't do it for Kindle books, which would be a much bigger revenue stream.
 
Why would Apple do that? They don't do it for Kindle books, which would be a much bigger revenue stream.
Agreed, but I didn't say Apple would, I said Amazon might be worried about it.

The other bit that came up somewhere is, Amazon might not like supporting (helping popularize by putting their app on it, so that their customers watch content there) a device where the available on-device choice for buying media is Apple, rather than Amazon (sure, you could go to Amazon.com in a browser on another computer and buy something from Amazon to watch in the Amazon app, but if you're fiddling with the AppleTV and have the remote in your hand, and you want to buy/rent something to watch right now, the tendency will be to give Apple the business, because it's right there). Again, not necessarily looking for a logical reason, but rather trying to divine what's in Amazon's mind.
 
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AMAZON'S Board ROOM: We've been out played again! What do we do, I know pull all the TV Boxes from our site except our TV box so that customer don't have a choice... and wait... let's make sure we design our TV box to look like an Apple TV.... The dumb ones will buy it thinking it's an Apple.. whahahahahahaha!
 
Both Amazon and Apple need to be careful not to run afoul of anti-trust laws.. Because "streaming" is so new, they're trying to get away with as much as they can..

They're having really goofy in-media negotiations presumably over

1. whether Apple will allow 'in-app' purchases for Amazon Instant Video
2. whether Amazon will be included in 'universal search'

Probably they'll end up including a crippled Amazon app which doesn't allow in-app purchases and keeps Amazon listings out of the universal search.. And the customer loses, because free market competition isn't making things better for us.

FWIW, I e-mailed Amazon customer service to complain that I'd bought Amazon Prime videos (and not iTunes videos) with the assumption I'd be able to view them on any device. I said I'd no longer be buying Amazon Prime products until this interoperability was addressed, and I got back a lengthy, cringe-y email about how the Amazon software team would look into it and had to work together with Apple blahblah..
 
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