thepixelpusher
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Maybe the stream for 4K, if Apple includes it, will be cached for part of the stream so you don't need to sustain the high rates of streaming.
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New Apple TV will be 4K
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wilsonlaidlaw
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H265?
Just another thought. Will the new Apple TV be able to handle H265 compressed streaming as I believe that will the industry standard for streaming 4K in the future.
Just another thought. Will the new Apple TV be able to handle H265 compressed streaming as I believe that will the industry standard for streaming 4K in the future.
MattZani
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Netflix says 25Mbps for their 4k, which is compressed, and definitely doesn't have lossless audio.
I'd hazard a guess at atleast 60Mbps for full 4k and lossless 7.1.
Fully uncompressed video/audio is somewhere where a disc is still king.
thepixelpusher
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Agreed.
Wouldn't be interesting if the new AppleTV had a Bluray player built in? I don't think will happen, but bandwidth for 4K streaming is still a struggle when Bluray disks are going to give you that without hitting your internet caps.
Wouldn't be interesting if the new AppleTV had a Bluray player built in? I don't think will happen, but bandwidth for 4K streaming is still a struggle when Bluray disks are going to give you that without hitting your internet caps.
wilsonlaidlaw
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Wasn't it SJ who said "a pox on all your houses" about Blu-Ray and just maybe things have changed at Cupertino since. Adding B-R to the Apple TV would be brilliant but only if it was 4K. The 4K standards for B-R are still not fully agreed and the last thing we need is to be on the wrong side of the fence in a format war.
I can see nothing against an Apple TV+ with B-R disc player in addition to the regular Apple TV in a few months, when hopefully the B-R 4K format is finally agreed. It is always handy to have a CD/DVD/B-R cum CDR/DVDR anyway, now that none of the newer Macs incorporate them. My 2007 vintage USB powered external super-drive is getting a bit cranky and needing to be replaced.
oneMadRssn
macrumors 603
There is no way the Apple TV will have any kind of optical media player. I will eat an entire Blu-Ray disc, whole, in one bite, live-streamed on youtube, if I am wrong. That is how confident I am.
The upcoming Ultra HD Blu-Ray standard for 4K is going to allow "up to" 100Mbps. Do a Google search if you want to know all the details that are currently still under review.
There is no such thing as fully uncompressed video/audio on a disk available. Do a Google search if you want to know the bandwidth that is needed to deliver uncompressed HD, let alone 4K video. It's simply too expensive for the mass market with little to no benefit.
It's also not necessary, as you can AirPlay a Blu-Ray (excluding the menu) directly via Air Video HD to your AppleTV, already (via transcoding). The new AppleTV may be less restricted to bandwidth limits because of the VXD decoder unit in the A8(x) SoC, so you can enjoy fully quality Blu-ray streaming without the need to transcode it.
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MattZani
macrumors 68030
No, but it's bigger than compressed audio. I don't quite see how you got that? Netflix uses special algorithms so their 4k is hugely compressed, much more than most.