I'm in. Unlike some of you, I hope the remote stays about the same or is backward compatible. I know I may be in a minority, but I love that little remote.
Those dongle style media players are slow as hell for everything except the actual video decoding. They have as little CPU power as they can get away with and thus don't have a very good user experience.
This is one thing that's kept me using an ATV; the user interface and responsiveness is worlds ahead of pretty much everything else, even including media players built into smart TVs where you'd expect there not to be a tight power/thermal budget.
About time. The current Apple TV 4K is one of the worse products there is in the market in terms of price/performance. It uses ancient hardware, and yet is priced more than a gaming console (that can do the same things and more, having much more powerful hardware).
+1 for redesigned remote
About time. The current Apple TV 4K is one of the worse products there is in the market in terms of price/performance. It uses ancient hardware, and yet is priced more than a gaming console (that can do the same things and more, having much more powerful hardware).
A refreshed Apple TV with an A12 Bionic chip or newer appears to be in development, according to 9to5Mac, which uncovered an unreleased model with the codename "T1125" in the tvOS 13.4 beta seeded yesterday.
Details about the new Apple TV are slim beyond the faster chip and its maximum supported resolution remaining 4K with HDR.
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Rumors of a new Apple TV with an A12 chip began swirling last fall, but with a different codename of "J305." The device has typically been updated once every two years, with the first tvOS-based ?model launching in September 2015 and the ?Apple TV? 4K arriving in September 2017.
A faster Apple TV would certainly benefit Apple Arcade gaming and overall performance.
Article Link: New Apple TV With A12 Chip or Later Uncovered in tvOS 13.4 Beta
Hence my assertion that Apple should split Apple TV into streaming centric offering ($99 with simple remote) and another optimized for Apple Arcade.That may be so, but there are people (like me) who do not buy an Apple TV for games. A comparison to an Xbox or Playstation is meaningless for me.
If Apple can mesh some of the gaming aspects of Nintendo Wii Remote Plus into Siri Remote, I think it can please both gamers and non-gamers.Perhaps Apple could offer an inexpensive optional gaming controller or something. But please don't make me use a gaming controller to watch movies, which is still the main purpose of the Apple TV.
I miss plasma! My Panasonic was one of the highest rated TVs ever made. SAD, I sold it when we moved
I miss plasma! My Panasonic was one of the highest rated TVs ever made. SAD, I sold it when we moved
The AppleTV is the best video player out there .... beating even the new Nvidia Shield ... the reason being Infuse 6 Pro. Seriously, the best video playing app I have ever seen. It plays everything .... even 100 Gb 4k videos flawlessly. The interface looks fantastic. The gathering of meta data is fantastic. I have been using Plex for about 10 years and have a lifetime pass ... won't be using that any more.
I love the Apple TV ... its interface is streets ahead of any smart TV too.....and the best screensavers ever. Whats not to like.
Get with the times and get a Logitech Harmony Universal Remote. Anyone who is half serious about decent audio video does not use the Apple remote anyways.
Get with the times and get a Logitech Harmony Universal Remote. Anyone who is half serious about decent audio video does not use the Apple remote anyways.
Three things:
When you add them all up, Apple TV 4K is a bit out of place.
- Apple TV 4K retails at $179-199
- Apple TV app being added to most new TVs
- Xbox One S All-Digital Edition retails at $249 (but frequently discounted to $170) and includes 2 games (Minecraft and Sea of Thieves)
If Apple is even remotely serious about Apple Arcade, it needs to make Apple TV more compelling. Faster lag free 4K HDR performance (A12X HDMI 2.1) and better out-of-the-box gaming experience (better remote or controller bundle). Having to spend $29.95-$59.95 for a controller, in addition to $179-199 for the unit itself, does not demonstrate Apple's confidence in the gaming category.
For folks that use Apple TV primarily for streaming, it is overpriced even if you take user privacy into purchase consideration. Apple TV 4K needs to become cheaper, ideally around $99 (A12 with more basic remote).
Either that, Apple should go all in and make Apple TV 4K even more premium. Perhaps a soundbar with microphone built-in to the unit (instead of the remote), and A13X with ML based video processor, support for wider range of audio and video codecs.
If you don't play games through apple and have airplay 2/apple tv app on your TV, is there really any benefits in the standalone apple tv now?
Three things:
When you add them all up, Apple TV 4K is a bit out of place.
- Apple TV 4K retails at $179-199
- Apple TV app being added to most new TVs
- Xbox One S All-Digital Edition retails at $249 (but frequently discounted to $170) and includes 2 games (Minecraft and Sea of Thieves)
If Apple is even remotely serious about Apple Arcade, it needs to make Apple TV more compelling. Faster lag free 4K HDR performance (A12X HDMI 2.1) and better out-of-the-box gaming experience (better remote or controller bundle). Having to spend $29.95-$59.95 for a controller, in addition to $179-199 for the unit itself, does not demonstrate Apple's confidence in the gaming category.
For folks that use Apple TV primarily for streaming, it is overpriced even if you take user privacy into purchase consideration. Apple TV 4K needs to become cheaper, ideally around $99 (A12 with more basic remote).
Either that, Apple should go all in and make Apple TV 4K even more premium. Perhaps a soundbar with microphone built-in to the unit (instead of the remote), and A13X with ML based video processor, support for wider range of audio and video codecs.
I don't agree at all. I use it all the time (e.g. to skip intros or search a specific part of a movie). Many tvOS apps are also designed to be operated by touch remote, and some have special gestures e.g. to quickly scroll through long lists. I would really hate to lose the touchpad. I also hate conventional remotes with dozens of little buttons with a passion. Simplifying this was long overdue, and Apple's remote is a good effort IMO.With few exceptions, Siri Remote's touchpad just isn't utilized all that much. At least not enough to offset accidental swipe and it being worse for games.
I know Apple hates Google these days, but I would really hope they add VP9 support in hardware or even software at this point. YouTube has got to be one of their most popular apps, missing out on 4K content with the Apple TV is annoying. If I want to watch something in 4K, my TV has Chromecast built in and supports it, so I have to go that route.
you can’t compare A fire stick to an appletv. I hate using my moms and the clutter on the interface makes me angry. The app is horrible compared to appletv‘s. Apps in general on android devices aren’t wonderful. No Apple Music. Airplay workaround is still not native airplay.While indeed welcomed news, unless its going to including gaming console performance, its going to be a bit difficult to continue the $200 neighborhood with comparably featured streaming devices are available for half the price or less, far less on Black Friday. I paid $25 for my Fire Stick 4K, installed the AirPlay&UPIP app and have pretty much the same feature thats on my Apple TV 4K
Eh!!??? There are tons of incredible games, my friends come to me to play co-op and party games! Super fun.sounds like a waste unless Apple Arcade gets some worthwhile games. I played oceanhorn 2 and then cancelled
I agree. The one issue I have is that it's far too easy to pick it up upside down without realizing it. Otherwise, I prefer it above any other remote I've used.I love the remote! just enough keys, you don't have to turn on the light to figure out which one to press.
If you don't like the remote, you can pretty much use your existing TV remote with it.
While the Siri remote is beautiful looking, and I am not trying to assert that the design is a failure for everyone, the general consensus is that it is a classic example of form over function.
If you try to use the Siri remote for Apple Arcade games, it's almost undoubtably a subpar experience. And if you just want to rewind or forward by 10 seconds, touch gesture is also undoubtably not as intuitive as dedicated rewind/forward buttons. Combined with the design prone to accidental swipe, I think Apple can do better.
Apple obviously isn't in the business of making an ugly controller, so the ball is in their court to not regress too far in terms of design, while moving the functionality forward.