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The password is used to decrypt the secure store where the biometric data is kept. I summarise, but one can google "secure enclave" for the details.
This is what those that think TouchID on the watch is a good idea don’t understand.

This is the way that Apple currently implements all of its biometrics for FaceID, TouchID, and Apple Watch unlocking. They would have to fundamentally change that for TouchID to be the only way it unlocks the Secure Enclave. Not saying they can’t, but it’s the main reason those of us who don’t see a reason for it are saying there isn’t a current reason for them to add TouchID when wearing it on your wrist is already filling that role.
 
The addition of TouchID might make the AW eligible for more high-security applications that require biometric security. I'm not sure what those applications are, but I'm sure they're out there.
 
Illustrates how much less popular the watch is (one of my most used devices). If the rumor were about adding Touch ID to the iPhone side button, there would be ten pages of messages by now.
Which they should do! I don’t like waving the phone at my face to unlock it. I’ll take the relatively lower security of touchID for the convenience of it.
 
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Apple’s really got you round their little finger huh?

In related news, I want a battery that’s actually replaceable, it’s insane that even Apple won’t replace it on the watch, especially considering they advertise it as carbon neutral….

I know, every time I think to discard my Apple Watch, I remember all the money I wasted on watch straps. It’s a damn trap
 
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I know, every time I think to discard my Apple Watch, I think about all the money I wasted on watch straps. It’s a damn trap
Luckily (well not really 😛) I cracked my last one’s screen and then it died, series 4 so waiting for a replacement, hopefully where I can replace said battery
 
Huh, I had been in the market for a new watch, I was waiting to see what came out this year.... my old watch's battery won't make it through the day.

But I really don't want a brand new 3 year old recycled pile of components which is what everything is pointing to.... so if next year is coming with a bunch of improvements, I guess I'll wait.
Next year always comes with a bunch of improvements... until it doesn't
 
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I don't get it. I specifically remember them touting during the launch that since the Watch is on your skin, it's secure. Once you've unlocked it by entering the passcode or through your phone after you put it on in the morning, it's authenticated until you remove it. What problem does this solve?
I'd guess that it's either a new feature or given that shoulder surfing is a thing involved in the theft of iPhones (i.e. thieves see you enter your passcode on the iPhone before they nick it) if such a thing happens where the iPhone needs you to enter your passcode - given that you already have the watch authenticated (as won't ask for passcode until it's removed from your wrist) one touch of the watch's side button automatically reauthenticates the iPhone without the passcode making that experience more secure & further drives iPhone thefts down?
 
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They'll really do anything except improve battery life won't they? AW needs all the help it can get - especially on cell.
I think we all want more battery life, but I think we need to be realistic and with the Apple Watch being so so tiny, there's very little wriggle room for battery life improvements.
 
One of the downsides of upgrading from the S9 to the S10 was that the S10 sits so low on my wrist, that the crown is actually more difficult to turn. I would've preferred the S10 to have the same thickness as the S9 but with a larger battery. But I love the jet black color of the S10. It blends in with the screen so nicely!

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If you could have say an hours extra battery, or 2mm shaved off, what would you choose?

Would love to meet the masochist who chose 2mm off
 
Thats leftover stock too. They made gazillions during the iPhone period.

Again, what? The parts are completely different—it was under the Home button on iPhone and now under the (way smaller and differently shaped) power button on iPad.
 
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Blegh.

It's not 2013 anymore. Touch ID is for the birds. It was great when it was integrated into the Home Button of iPhone which you needed to press anyway, and it wasn't awkward or difficult to reach. But the implementation's of it on iPad (and to a lesser degree, the Mac) are just awful. There is nothing worse in Apple' entire lineup than the side button Touch ID of the iPad Air. And even on the Mac, needing to reach for a dedicated button on the keyboard sucks. All of these products should have been 100% Face ID by now.

Apple Watch doesn't need Touch ID. At all. It has worked for 10 years to enter the passcode once when it goes onto your wrist (which you'll still have to do), and be done. We don't need it locking on us more often. The even worse possibility is that Apple wants it as a kind of Touch ID remote so it can authenticate your other devices...which we also don't need.
 
I think we all want more battery life, but I think we need to be realistic and with the Apple Watch being so so tiny, there's very little wriggle room for battery life improvements.

I think it's more realistic to say Apple just doesn't want to make that investment. They could throw millions at solving this problem and come up with something, they're just choosing not to. Can't blame them - AW sells like hotcakes no matter what they do or don't do.
 
Again, what? The parts are completely different—it was under the Home button on iPhone and now under the (way smaller and differently shaped) power button on iPad.

No, they just modify them by shaving parts off or adding matter to make them fit the new shape requirements. In fact many of the current iPad components are left over from the first gen iPad.

You think they'd just make new parts? Psssh.
 
Blegh.

It's not 2013 anymore. Touch ID is for the birds. It was great when it was integrated into the Home Button of iPhone which you needed to press anyway, and it wasn't awkward or difficult to reach. But the implementation's of it on iPad (and to a lesser degree, the Mac) are just awful. There is nothing worse in Apple' entire lineup than the side button Touch ID of the iPad Air. And even on the Mac, needing to reach for a dedicated button on the keyboard sucks. All of these products should have been 100% Face ID by now.

Apple Watch doesn't need Touch ID. At all. It has worked for 10 years to enter the passcode once when it goes onto your wrist (which you'll still have to do), and be done. We don't need it locking on us more often. The even worse possibility is that Apple wants it as a kind of Touch ID remote so it can authenticate your other devices...which we also don't need.
I agree except for Mac - I'm reaching for keys, I can reach for the button. If FaceID was small enough to fit it in the watch we wouldn't still have the "dynamic island" on the phone (sorry, it's not a "feature")

The continued use of TouchID shows how much smoke Apple was blowing when FaceID was introduced - "Get them to buy it and we'll work out the kinks later."
 
I think it's more realistic to say Apple just doesn't want to make that investment. They could throw millions at solving this problem and come up with something, they're just choosing not to. Can't blame them - AW sells like hotcakes no matter what they do or don't do.

Pretty much the entire planet has been throwing money at this problem for decades and nobody has solved it yet sooooo…
 
Apple Watch is way too big for me - I have small wrists.
So I wonder where is Apple Watch mini? Maybe even a round one?

Until then, sorry Apple, I will buy another Polar watch next year again.
I have a couple of days charge still on my 2 yrs old Polar - beat that Apple 😎
 
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