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Does CDMA data work like GSM edge/2g where phone calls get kicked to voicemail when you doing something data intensive (ie streaming audio)?

No, CDMA stops all data transmission and gives priority to calls first.
So it will ring and stop all data used and you have no option to have it send directly to voicemail without interrupting your data flow.
 
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THANK YOU!

Seriously, I've had a verizon smart phone for about 6 years now.. Never once have I needed to browse the internet while talking.

Your thinking about using the phone while trying to browse on it. While it's easier done with hand free/Bluetooth or speaker-phone, the real difference comes in with hotspot and tethering. I'm all everyone can see the advantage there..
 
I personally favor the AT&T ad than Verizon's ad. Like some has said, Verizon's ad just did a narrative with the guy saying "Yes, I can hear you now." This is a bit inaccurate as it depends on location.

The AT&T ad was the truth and was straightforward. I was expecting him to be using the Verizon iPhone 4 and attempting to make the reservation or, even better, fail to make the reservation while hurrying to the restaurant to find his wife missing. :rolleyes:

For those who don't find talking while surfing necessary, it helps when you're on a Bluetooth headset and someone on the other end quickly asks you for business hours, for example.
 
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When I'm on a boring call, it's guaranteed that I'm surfing the web or reading the news while pretending to listen.

Being able to multi task is also great when you're on hold, the rest of the phone doesn't stop working while you're sitting on hold for 20 minutes.

It's going to be entertaining seeing MacRumors become a battleground for AT&T users vs. Verizon users for the next few months.

In comparison to how great European cell phone service providers are we in the US should be banding together to get better service out of AT&T and Verizon.
 
So? Many others can't. Just the other day I called up a friend to see if he had received a work related email. He had to hang up and check. I can do both, he can't. There is a difference. Now, as per the ad, well poorly executed on AT&T's part.

Although, the general idea is nice, the ad itself sucks.

Ummm ... he shouldn't have to hang up to see if he's already received an email. Maybe if you sent it while he was talking to you on the phone ...

I don't know. I can see the use there, but IMHO phone calls are meant to be short and sweet. If you need me on the line so long that I need to start looking things up online, I'm probably dying for the opportunity to hang up on you anyway :)

In any case, I agree that Verizon's commercial speaks a whole lot more to me. I've witnessed colleagues with AT&T drop calls and not be able to get service in the middle of down freaking town far more often than I've ever been asked (or seen any of them asked) to look something up while talking on the phone. They both have value, but a strong network is far more compelling than a weak network that allows you to do two things poorly at the same time.
 
Laugh.

Voice + Data doesn't mean much when AT&T can't even keep a stable call going.

Like it's really that hard to look something up and txt a response.
 
Ummm ... he shouldn't have to hang up to see if he's already received an email. Maybe if you sent it while he was talking to you on the phone ...

I don't know. I can see the use there, but IMHO phone calls are meant to be short and sweet. If you need me on the line so long that I need to start looking things up online, I'm probably dying for the opportunity to hang up on you anyway :)

In any case, I agree that Verizon's commercial speaks a whole lot more to me. I've witnessed colleagues with AT&T drop calls and not be able to get service in the middle of down freaking town far more often than I've ever been asked (or seen any of them asked) to look something up while talking on the phone. They both have value, but a strong network is far more compelling than a weak network that allows you to do two things poorly at the same time.

If you say so. Overgeneralizing like that is silly and childish.
Im sure all 90+ millions of AT&T users have poor signal, dropped calls and no service but they stay with AT&T for some odd reason. There's no way that some or most have good service, fast data and no problems right.
AT&T, Verizon and any carrier in general can be good at some places and bad at others, there is no one carrier that's perfect everywhere no matter what Verizon is trying to sell you thru their ads and you're obviously buying it:D
To be stuck with slow verizon speeds would be miserable to me now that I got used to 5Mbps+ speeds on my local area.
 
This reminds me of the Charter ads that are a desperate attempt to save cable and land lines. Like the sentimental one showing the soldier calling his family and them all picking up the phones in their individual spots to talk to him. This Ad is targeting the very large "Everyone has a cellphone we don't need a landline" crowd. It negates the idea of conference calling on cellphones, and tries to convince the viewer that there are times so important that it's worth $50+ a month for a land line, despite the fact that you already have a cellphone your more likely to use.

Just like this Ad, negating the fact that he probably had WiFi at work (but you think that was intentional? We can't forget a LARGE number of smartphone users are oblivious to technology, maybe this tries to subliminally convince them that you also can't use WiFi and talk?), and trying to convince people that, despite the downfalls, it is necessary that you have talk and surf capabilities.

I, for one, use such a feature all the time. But, I could also live without it. What I COULDN'T live without is the higher speeds. There are other advantages to GSM too, like international travel (Dominated by GSM), but those are useless to me. I also really would miss having a SIM card. More than once I've had a phone crap out on me, or just die at an inconvenient time. I can pop my SIM card into one of a couple of oldie but goodie cellphones I have in a drawer if something happened. This is all more evidence that the GSM vs CDMA debate is 6 in one hand, half a dozen in the other.

Honestly, if AT&T was as reliable and committed as Verizon, they would be the hands-down winner. There is no "advantage" to CDMA that I am aware of (if not, correct me, I'm sure someone will), but the CDMA carriers seems to be better in this country, and it's a shame.

Where I live, I have fantastic AT&T service. 5 megs down, 2 megs up, I can get online / call anywhere (this is an hour west of the St.Louis area). By contrast, next time you see Verizon pop up one of their pretty maps, see that BIIIIG white spot in the middle of the US (eastern side of Missouri), yeah that's me. Nada. Nothin. Not even a call out. In fact, I had a friend who moved out here and got out of her Verizon contract because she had 0 service, and Verizon agreed to let her out of it because she was in a "no-service area". BUT, ANY TIME I've traveled outside of this area, the service sucked. Royally. I hope this competition will force AT&T to get their act together. It can't hurt, right?

(I should also mention I can't remember the last time I dropped a call. Go figure right? If they can do it here, why can't they do it anywhere else?)
 
AT&T is not honest in this ad

What really should happen here is even before he get to hear what the wife has called him about, his call will be disconnected due to connection problem.

He gets frustrated, the wife gets furstrated
End of the real story

Verizon said they will come up with software update later this year to allow the feature, so yea AT&T be honest
 
That is a pretty weak response. He could NOT wait for the phone call to end. There's absolutely no need to have voice and data at the same time. Verizon smartphone customers have been doing for how long now and we survive easily without it. What are the chances of this happening in real life? Extremely slim to none.

Sorry AT&T... Verizon's massive coverage (important for me since I travel a lot and AT&T 3G coverage is very spotty in my area) > voice + data. You should focus on the 3G speed over Verizon using data gathered by tech sites. That would be far better than trying to convince people that the need for voice + data outweighs 3G coverage.

Well i do use voice and data at the same time and quite a a lot, i will not go to VZ until that is possible. Verizon never had anything good to say about iPhone until now that they got it, and once they will be able to do voice and data they sure will brag about how great it is then.
But ATT's commercial is quite bad compared to Verizon's.
 
Laugh.

Voice + Data doesn't mean much when AT&T can't even keep a stable call going.

Like it's really that hard to look something up and txt a response.

The thing is...this argument assumes that everyone who has AT&T has bad service. That just isn't the case, and it is ignorant to assume it.

I switched from Verizon when the original phone came out and haven't regretted the move. We have great service in Houston, and I can say that I've used voice + data about 100 times more than I've dropped a call. So, yeah, it does "mean much".
 
Really? Really?

Dude, he's in a ****** office and doesn't have access to a computer? Shouldn't he be sitting in front of his computer? Really? Really? What a lame commercial.
 
I think the point would have been made better if he had actually used the data services to make an online reservation rather than simply Google for "fine dining". As others have said, if he was just going to Google, he could have waited until after the call.

If it had gone more like this:

Wife: You did make a reservation, right? Where are we going?
Husband: *makes one right now using online app* Of course, dear, I've got us reserved for 7:00 at ____.
Wife: Oh, good, our favourite!

That would both strengthen the punch line of the commercial and illustrate one instance where you might "need" to use voice and data at the same time.

Edit: oops, yes, I did see someone suggested this already.
 
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There were exactly two occasions in my life where I needed voice and data at the same time. As a Verizon smartphone user, was it annoying that I didn't have the feature? Yes. Enough to make me switch to AT&T? Hell no.
 
What really should happen here is even before he get to hear what the wife has called him about, his call will be disconnected due to connection problem.

He gets frustrated, the wife gets furstrated
End of the real story

Verizon said they will come up with software update later this year to allow the feature, so yea AT&T be honest

It's a network issue not software. Verizon won't fix anything
 
+1 I have had a smart phone for a few years now and not once have I needed to do that either I can live without it. :)

My father used to say he lived his whole life without a computer so why would he want one now. He won the argument every time.

If you don't need it, that's great. For me, when riding the trains in Osaka and trying to figure out connections and transfers with a friend who is on another train, it's a pretty nice option to have.
 
Dude, he's in a ****** office and doesn't have access to a computer? Shouldn't he be sitting in front of his computer? Really? Really? What a lame commercial.


1) he's in a conference room when his wife calls
2) it's late at night, he's probably got commute of sorts, and it's better to get pages loading and such as you're running out the door already on your way to make it happen
 
Sorry AT&T... Verizon's massive coverage (important for me since I travel a lot and AT&T 3G coverage is very spotty in my area) > voice + data. You should focus on the 3G speed over Verizon using data gathered by tech sites. That would be far better than trying to convince people that the need for voice + data outweighs 3G coverage.

You do know of course that AT&T doesn't read your posts, right? Besides. It's much cheaper to produce ads rather than erect towers.

And while I agree that AT&T's response is pretty lame I grow weary of these asinine posts from users that who believe if a carrier doesn't work in their tiny gnat's ass speck of the universe this means it sucks everywhere for everyone.

Can you people really be that naive?
 
That is a pretty weak response. He could NOT wait for the phone call to end. There's absolutely no need to have voice and data at the same time. Verizon smartphone customers have been doing for how long now and we survive easily without it. What are the chances of this happening in real life? Extremely slim to none.

Sorry AT&T... Verizon's massive coverage (important for me since I travel a lot and AT&T 3G coverage is very spotty in my area) > voice + data. You should focus on the 3G speed over Verizon using data gathered by tech sites. That would be far better than trying to convince people that the need for voice + data outweighs 3G coverage.

No I can't wait and why should I? :eek:
 
A short lived debate

This debate ends this year. The upcoming 4G phones on Verizon support simultaneous voice and data when you are on the 4g network. Read up on the HTC Thunderbolt.
 
The best phone ad campaign going right now is the T-Mobile with that really cute girl!

But seriously why do people really care. Arguing over carrier commercials isn't that the same as arguing over insurance commercials.

I've been in cars with people who can't get a signal on Verizon, while I can in the same spot with AT&T and vise versa.

My iPhone 4 works great in elevators, where Verizon phones drop almost instantly when the doors close. Go figure.

The people who need to be worried are the makers of the Android handsets. They all undercut each other, driving the prices and values of their phones down, while Apple is able to charge a minimum and lock users into keeping them for two years.

Basically there are two types of phones. There are iPhones and then there are non-iPhones.
 
I use this pretty often in real life. I look stuff up on the phone 3-4 times a week (when WiFi is not accessible), and I don't think I'd like to live without it.
 
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