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New Biography of Jony Ive Sheds Light on Apple's Design 'Genius'
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Sir Jony Ive, the Genius
This is getting ridiculous. The more I see what Apple has become post-Steve Jobs, the more apparent it is how mediocre of a designer Jony Ive is. Before Steve Jobs came back to Apple in 1996, Ive was not responsible for designing any memorable product. Apple's greatest products were made only when Steve was working at Apple.
Mr. Ive was just at the right place, at the right time, riding on the coattails of the former CEO. His so-called "genius" lies in not in his own talent, but merely "stealing" Dieter Ram's design cues and incorporating them into computers. I would suggest looking at some pictures of Ram's designs. Some parts of the design are just straight ripped off.
His arrogance is so thick that he thinks he can be the Chief UI designer, even though he has not spent a day learning what makes a usable graphical interface. Moreover, he is so blind to think that one can apply industrial design principles to graphic design.
He uses a single color for horizontal bars and buttons because in the real world, you only really need to use one material or one paint. Hey, Jony the Genius! Real life objects are subject to specular reflections from lights and drop shadows. Unfortunately, these don't show up on user interfaces because there is global light from the back of the panel. So what do real graphic designers do? They add bevel, emboss, strokes, gradients, and shadows to mimic real life.
Anyways, thanks for destroying a perfectly fine phone and tablet. All we needed was more features to bring it on par with Android, not an ugly paint job. You have effectively turned Apple from being the leading innovative tech company into a mediocre one.
PS. I was looking at my mom's phone which was running iOS6, and my eyes didn't hurt.
This is getting ridiculous. The more I see what Apple has become post-Steve Jobs, the more apparent it is how mediocre of a designer Jony Ive is. Before Steve Jobs came back to Apple in 1996, Ive was not responsible for designing any memorable product. Apple's greatest products were made only when Steve was working at Apple.
Mr. Ive was just at the right place, at the right time, riding on the coattails of the former CEO. His so-called "genius" lies in not in his own talent, but merely "stealing" Dieter Ram's design cues and incorporating them into computers. I would suggest looking at some pictures of Ram's designs. Some parts of the design are just straight ripped off.
His arrogance is so thick that he thinks he can be the Chief UI designer, even though he has not spent a day learning what makes a usable graphical interface. Moreover, he is so blind to think that one can apply industrial design principles to graphic design.
He uses a single color for horizontal bars and buttons because in the real world, you only really need to use one material or one paint. Hey, Jony the Genius! Real life objects are subject to specular reflections from lights and drop shadows. Unfortunately, these don't show up on user interfaces because there is global light from the back of the panel. So what do real graphic designers do? They add bevel, emboss, strokes, gradients, and shadows to mimic real life.
Anyways, thanks for destroying a perfectly fine phone and tablet. All we needed was more features to bring it on par with Android, not an ugly paint job. You have effectively turned Apple from being the leading innovative tech company into a mediocre one.
PS. I was looking at my mom's phone which was running iOS6, and my eyes didn't hurt.
iOS 7 is the opposite of genius.
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I've done GUI design. I've studied GUI design. I've worked with developers on it. iOS 7 is the opposite of every good lesson learned.
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I've done GUI design. I've studied GUI design. I've worked with developers on it. iOS 7 is the opposite of every good lesson learned.
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Never heard of that guy. I googled him and i think he designs some weird little race cars. LOL
He is the UK's worst designer. I mean those cars are really ugly. They are probably fast, but who cares if they are so bad looking.
I find the lack of originality in that comment to be perfect considering what the comment was about...
It;s about checks and balances. Even the greatest literary masterpieces had a strong editorial hand. I think Jony Ive was always talented, but he's a designer, and not really a tech geek. For every design he puts out, what really needs to happen is Apple hardware engineers need to have the strength of personality to say "Um, beautiful, but where does the battery go?"
The revered position of Ive in the company (and Tim Cook's lack of expertise in hardware engineering) probably makes it really hard today to ask the practical questions. Steve Jobs had the strength of personality to put the fear of God in everyone. I don't see anyone in Apple's team daring to say no to Jony today.
As a result a lot of Apple's hardware relies increasingly on cosmetic fixers like ... glue. Compare the old Macbook pro (old-fashioned bulkiness and all) to the new rmbp's. In the old mbp's the machine is held together by old-fashioned screws. The new rmbp's have glued-in internals, including a battery. The old imacs had magnets holding the screen. The new imacs again have glue. Gluing things together seems like a short-term, rush-to-market solution.
Really? You have worked with developers on UI design? That's how you design UIs?
Let's see the product of your UI design studies. Let's see what these good lessons are that you have learned.
Remember that some of the people you run across in the internet do this stuff for a living and are not just some posers with nothing better to do than fling poo from the sidelines.
It's one thing to talk ****** in the internet. It's a whole different thing to make something that is good or even great.
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I did an experiment a while ago.
I made a stupid little app. What it did was simple, it placed one iOS 6 styled button on the screen at a random location with the text "PUSH ME" on it.
Then, the rest of the white space was filled up with twenty text labels in various colours that also said "PUSH ME". This is how iOS 7 haphazardly represents buttons (sometimes, but not all the times- I see Apple hasn't even figured out what they should be doing).
Whenever someone pushes either the iOS 6 or iOS 7 styled button, that action would get sent over WLAN to my laptop where a server daemon records the results.
So after the last four beta testing sessions I held, I asked the testers to open up my silly little UI test application and push whatever they felt was the most obvious thing to push.
Out of approximately 400 people, every single one of them pushed the iOS 6 styled button first (then the other buttons to see what they'd do). Not a single person pushed the iOS 7 styled "button" first. I've given this same test to everyone I personally know, and the results are always the same. They push the button that looks like a button first, then potentially tap on another just to see what happens.
How's that for your iOS 7 design?
-SC
That sounds like a horrible test. Seriously flawed lame test. People are automatically going to go for the button that seems most practical. If they thought the iOS 6 button seemed like a most natural choice given that most people were still using iOS 6 at the time of your so-called 'test' than go figure.
Now that iOS 7 has caught hold, what say you do the test again? I'm sure you could come up with some way to skew the results for us if you are creative enough.
It's a wonder why reps from usability labs around the world aren't knocking on your door.
Your test sounds good on paper, but to me all it really does is affirm people's recent memory.
In the early 2000s, when LCD TVs came out, if you put a guy in a room with 10 flat screen TVs mounted to the walls, and a ca.1990s CRT TV on a table, and told him to "turn on the TV", he'd march right over to the CRT and turn it on.
Try that same test today. Things change.
I assume you are either trolling or incredibly naive - maybe a bit of both.
Formula 1 is the most technologically advanced sport in the world and Adrian Newey is very much an aerodynamics genius and has contributed world championship winning cars with Williams, McLaren and Red Bull Racing.
When you're driving around in your little car and traction control kicks in, when ABS cuts in, when your hybrid feeds off electricity instead of gas, when exhaust gases are channeled to keep your car stuck to the road, that is merely a drop in the ocean to what Formula 1 has contributed to road using cars. And that's why the worlds biggest manufacturers spend millions every year racing in it.
And the aesthetics of the car have nothing to do with Newey, they are dictated by a rule book, Newey has to make the car within the regulations.
This is the start
Is this about having a CEO that's not as good as Steve Jobs, but better than Tim Cook for share holders?
It's marketing? - Jony Ive would have been a step down straight after Jobs but now we're used to awkward Tim Cook, Ive will be a step up - time to market a new Messiah to the Apple faithful.
So now we just need someone strong enough to filter out the Jony Ive ideas that don't come from his genius.
Is this about having a CEO that's not as good as Steve Jobs, but better than Tim Cook for share holders?
It's marketing? - Jony Ive would have been a step down straight after Jobs but now we're used to awkward Tim Cook, Ive will be a step up - time to market a new Messiah to the Apple faithful.
So now we just need someone strong enough to filter out the Jony Ive ideas that don't come from his genius.
Yup. Reminds one of how many times Apple tried to put lipstick on that pig known as Mac OS 7 / 8 / 9.
Maybe Ive and Newey should switch jobs for a year. We'd see a very beautiful F1 car (available in 2 colors) and a very aerodynamically efficient iPhone.
Jonathan Ive is a great designer (if I can forgive him for iOS7). However for him to be greater than Adrian Newey in my mind, apart from what others have already said in reply to your hilarious post. He would need to go to Samsung and Microsoft and do for them what he has done for Apple.
Ive is a little like a football player at the top of his game, who is safe in his environment with his current 'top of the table' team being built around him supporting his greatness and retires only playing for that team during his prime.
Adrian Newey is the typification of a player who has left 2 other great clubs to join lesser ones and continues to prove he is the best and providing his teams with greater success.
Williams, Maclaren and now Red bull.
Funny thing is that as of today, CRT still has the highest quality color reproduction (plasma comes closest, SED would be in this category too if the technology wasn't held up in a patent war).