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New Book Explores How the iPhone Contributed to BlackBerry's Downfall
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I've been saying this for years. I give Goigle credit for instantly seeing what the iPhone was. Google innovated nothing but immediately saw how the future they envisioned with mobile would look when they saw the iPhone.
Elvergun
macrumors 6502
LOL...talk about not being able to deal with reality. If anyone is losing its grip, for more than a year now, it is Samsung.
Man, you must really hate Apple to type such nonsense. I thought "Apple is doomed" was something Android fans used years ago...and that it had gone out of fashion as an argument lately. 🙄
Mr Bigs
macrumors 6502a
I highly doubt Google is going anywhere much to Apples dismay !!!!
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Its not really about hate for Apple its just the truth !!!!!
anthogag
macrumors 68030
Hindsight is 20-20. Who cares about the Storm. Another case study to add to the pile.
The point is BlackBerry is back, more diverse, and better than ever.
I use the BlackBerry Passport. It's better than anything else on the market. I don't see an app gap; I have access to BB10 and android apps.
Apple and android also have their issues. With so many iPhone users always hunting for the nearest electrical outlet to charge the phone, why isn't there a proper dictionary term for it. "wall hugger" is a good one. 😱
The point is BlackBerry is back, more diverse, and better than ever.
I use the BlackBerry Passport. It's better than anything else on the market. I don't see an app gap; I have access to BB10 and android apps.
Apple and android also have their issues. With so many iPhone users always hunting for the nearest electrical outlet to charge the phone, why isn't there a proper dictionary term for it. "wall hugger" is a good one. 😱
Mr Bigs
macrumors 6502a
This is what so many Apple enthusiast keep pushing !!!Blackberry isn't going away anytime soon, its still the best at what it does. I have an iPhone 6 but my primary phone is a BB Passport which is really incredible and just the first iteration of the device.
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It really amazes me how table can turn so easily. I just got the Surface 3 and haven't touched the iPad Air 2 or MacBook Pro since but their is still a time for each which I'm keeping. The point is their is room for everyone.
Android ahead of Apple - maybe in marketshare, but declining profits (ie. Samsung's latest reports) will hurt a company more in the long run than having a larger install base...
TallManNY
macrumors 601
Those BBRY's are built tough.
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In some ways, yes. Though a lot of the decent size batteries out there are a bit large.
But one of my phones has always been fully paid by my work, so my data plan costs have never been particularly high. And the BBRY could do a few things my iPhone couldn't. And obviously my iPhone could do many many things my BBRY couldn't. I also, at one point, had the iPhone on AT&T and the BBRY on the more robust and dependable Verizon network. That gave me more and better coverage when traveling.
Elvergun
macrumors 6502
Well, it has been the "truth" for at least 3 years now...and Apple has had record year after record year. Is that the truth you are talking about?
I guess nothing is is impossible, and one of these days your dreams...err...I mean, your predictions might come true.
Elvergun
macrumors 6502
The thing is, they don't have a larger marketshare. The install base is all Google's...and Larry Page and Eric Schmidt are laughing all the way to the bank.
Samsung does not make money from Android, and now they can't sell their phones. Tizen? LOL.
Gotta love Google's Troyan Horses.
TallManNY
macrumors 601
They made a profit last quarter and they've been cash flow positive for several quarters in a row now. They are sitting on $3 billion in cash and that cash pile is growing. They've basically got their costs back under control and they are able to survive selling just ten million phones a year while they transition to offering enterprise security services for a modest per device yearly fee. Now I suppose it remains to be seen if they can still move ten million phones a year. But I suspect that they can stay in the hardware business indefinitely at only five million phones. But less than that, they probably can't keep doing it.
Yes, they messed up in the smart phone market. I had one of the original blackberries and four years later I had a device that besides having a bigger screen and rechargeable battery basically did nothing better. Eventually they added a phone to their email solution and that was nice. But their pace of technical innovation was pathetically slow after the first few genius moves.
But people should just get over this. Rehashing how the Storm was a bad device seems a bizarre waste of time in 2015. The first few Android devices were bad as well. But who cares? Years have passed since then. Let's move on and look at the current devices and the current services.
This entire post is so... So... So... Wow. Just so wrong on so many levels I was looking for the /s tag at the end. It wasn't there.
dampfnudel
macrumors 603
I think it will be a long wait, long enough that the competition between Apple & Google/Samsung will be the least of our concerns.
My only Blackberry experience
When I started a new job in early 2011 as a senior IT staff member I was "proudly" handed a brand new in the box Bold. I looked at the individual who gave it to me and pointed out the similarities to the Jack I'd had a few years prior and then showed him my 4s. It turns out everyone in the organization was issued a Blackberry and this Bold was the latest and greatest they were issuing. Well it turns out it was the latest thing Verizon would give them for free, so they gave them out since whatever came before it was discontinued. It's still in the box with about 20 minutes of use on it. I've used my iPhone ever since that day. Needless to say I wasn't impressed with Blackberry whatsoever. Today everyone in the company who receives a phone receives a new iPhone. I was partly responsible for taking about 800 Blackberry devices along with the cost of the licensing for the server components and the hardware they ran on permanently out of service.
When I started a new job in early 2011 as a senior IT staff member I was "proudly" handed a brand new in the box Bold. I looked at the individual who gave it to me and pointed out the similarities to the Jack I'd had a few years prior and then showed him my 4s. It turns out everyone in the organization was issued a Blackberry and this Bold was the latest and greatest they were issuing. Well it turns out it was the latest thing Verizon would give them for free, so they gave them out since whatever came before it was discontinued. It's still in the box with about 20 minutes of use on it. I've used my iPhone ever since that day. Needless to say I wasn't impressed with Blackberry whatsoever. Today everyone in the company who receives a phone receives a new iPhone. I was partly responsible for taking about 800 Blackberry devices along with the cost of the licensing for the server components and the hardware they ran on permanently out of service.
Feels like a company regenerating, eh?
http://www.businessinsider.com/afp-struggling-blackberry-announces-new-round-of-layoffs-2015-5
Haha,
For me it's about how Apple showed up to fight in a tank and Blackberry stood by the mighty horse and tried to tell everyone the horse was going to whip butt! Too bad they can't recover the old CEO's salary.. he should definitely pay back everything back and more....
I have a BB for work and an Iphone for home. Everyday I curse the BB, there is just no comparison! stupid bb...
Samsung group's revenue is bigger but they did not make more money than Apple last year, and Samsung electronics, the one that makes the phones, is not a small part of the group, in fact, it is the biggest of the group, and responsible for most of the group's profits.
Yes Samsung build cars, ships, do constructions, chemicals, sell insurances, but they are not bigger than Samsung electronics. Of Samsung group's 300 billion dollar revenue, 216 billion comes from Samsung electronics, and out of the 216B, more than half comes from mobile phones. So in essence, mobile phone is Samsung's biggest business out of the whole group.
Go to Samsung website and read their annual report.
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SlCKB0Y
macrumors 68040
The decline of SGI began 20 years ago. Are you actually comparing where Google is now to where SGI was in 1995?
The commoditisation of the UNIX workstation by Linux and BSD on Intel hardware (including ports of software like Maya) along with the rise of PC graphics is what killed SGI.
The teacup
In the Uk, after the massive amount of marketing Vodafone threw at this thing it was such a failure than it was nicknamed. "The Teacup".
As in Storm in a teacup.
In the Uk, after the massive amount of marketing Vodafone threw at this thing it was such a failure than it was nicknamed. "The Teacup".
As in Storm in a teacup.
pjarvi
macrumors 65816
From an IT perspective, the downfall of RIM/Blackberry actually started 2 years prior to the iPhone launch when RIM lost in court to a patent lawsuit against them that resulted in an injunction being brought against them. Many companies and governments agencies got cold feet and started dropping Blackberry service and began switching to Windows Mobile instead. This was further accelerated by Microsoft pushing companies to enable Outlook Anywhere on their Exchange servers. The company I worked for at the time did just that, dropped Blackberry for all but the board of directors and CEO, enabled Outlook Anywhere, and switched every sales and service rep to Windows Mobile devices. By the time the iPhone 3G came out they then made the switch to iOS and Android when both platforms had working email support for Exchange server with remote wipe, etc... Ultimately, RIM failed to do anything to bring back customers that were lost.
Not quite. It wasn't that form had increased in importance. It was that *different* functions had become important to people, and the iPhone provided those functions, while the Blackberry didn't.
Had RIM realized what was actually happening to their market, they could have reacted in time and provided it to their customers. Instead, they didn't see it happening soon enough, and when they did, they misidentified the cause.
Ironically, they thought that *form* (specifically, their particular hardware keyboard) was one of the things that people people would stick around for.
