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But will the new phone still be subsidized?

Adding a data plan has nothing to do w/ the status of your upgrade. But I'm not sure they will let you add a $30 data plan w/o an iPhone currently activated on your account. If you try and it works, please let us know.

But for goodness sake, PLEASE don't start another new thread just to tell us.
 
I might be out of luck... I'm with T-Mobile and looking to switch to AT&T for the new iPhone. Now I won't be able to get the unlimited plan!!! Been waiting for 2 years for this.... :(

Wonder if I can get a 3GS and return/exchange it when the new one come out. That is if the new one is out before the return period ends!
 
if you dont have a iPhone I dont think you cand add the "iPhone data" plan, because you dont have a compatible device. Just like iPhone users cant add other data plans to their account
 
Yes you can. Just call AT&T in and say you just got an iPhone as a hand me down and would like to have the $30/month unlimited data added.

This won't work, I just tried calling AT&T and they wanted to know the INME ID:
 
Okay, so I just want some verification, for myself.

In March, I lost my iPhone 3G and switched to a Palm Centro and opted to keep the $30/month unlimited data plan on there. I've been told that when I go to upgrade to iPhone 4, I will be able to carry that unlimited data plan for $30/month. Am I correct in thinking this?
 
What if I borrowed a jailbroken iPhone 3G from a T-mobile user, put in my SIM card, called up AT&T to add the iPhone data plan, and then go back to my old clamshell phone? Would that work?
 
Exactly my same thoughts. And in any case, I'll keep my unlimited plan because of my little over average usage, that and now I'm reusing Benm hack for tethering... not gonna let that go.

I'm also using the Benm hack on my 3GS with 3.0.1 software. I've avoided doing the software upgrades because I don't want to lose the tethering. I think OS4.0 will get me to finally upgrade. I'm going to miss tethering.

I use my iPhone all day long, and I still only hit 1GB of data a month. 98% of people use less than 2GB of data a month. Unless you are doing something crazy, jumping through hoops to pay $30 a month when paying $25 a month is just as good doesn't make a lot of sense.

The only reason I'm staying with my $30 unlimited plan is I get 15% off it and can't get that on the new plan.
 
Just call AT&T and do what I said above... then just buy the next gen iPhone and swap SIMs... easy.

How would a SIM swap go with a new iPhone 4th gen go though? I've been thinking about this too (currently have a 3GS with $30 unlimited iPhone plan), but I couldn't put the SIM from my current iPhone into the 4th gen due to the use of the micro-SIM standard on the new iPhone. I'm wondering if when you activate a micro-SIM (which for now will only be the iPads and iPhone 4th gens), will they automatically bump you off the "unlimited" plans, since they technically aren't going to offer that unlimited plan with a micro-SIM using device (again, this is only the iDevices right now)?
I've already purchased a load of the micro-SIM to standard SIM adapters for use while we will have two sizes of SIM cards, but in this case they won't work, as I'll be needing to put a standard sized SIM into a micro-SIM using device.

What if I borrowed a jailbroken iPhone 3G from a T-mobile user, put in my SIM card, called up AT&T to add the iPhone data plan, and then go back to my old clamshell phone? Would that work?

I think that would just depend on if you're unlucky during that time and AT&T does one of their automatic checks on your account to see if the device you are using matches up with the data plan on the account. I know from my experience that almost every time I switch from my iPhone 3GS to my Nexus One (my "official" phone listed on my account is iPhone 3GS with unlimited iPhone data plan), within a few days their system detects a "non-iPhone device", and kicks me to the regular smartphone unlimited plan, thereby causing me to lose my iPhone Visual Voicemail. I have to call in an change it back to the iPhone data plan almost every time I put my SIM back in my iPhone to get my visual voicemail back.
 
So, maybe if I can borrow the phone on Friday, add on the plan, and then just leave my old phone off until I get my new phone. That should work. I would be without a phone for maybe up to 2 weeks but it's a small price to pay. More incentive to hope that the phone will be available on the day of the announcement rather than later down the road.
 
How would a SIM swap go with a new iPhone 4th gen go though? I've been thinking about this too (currently have a 3GS with $30 unlimited iPhone plan), but I couldn't put the SIM from my current iPhone into the 4th gen due to the use of the micro-SIM standard on the new iPhone. I'm wondering if when you activate a micro-SIM (which for now will only be the iPads and iPhone 4th gens), will they automatically bump you off the "unlimited" plans, since they technically aren't going to offer that unlimited plan with a micro-SIM using device (again, this is only the iDevices right now)?
I've already purchased a load of the micro-SIM to standard SIM adapters for use while we will have two sizes of SIM cards, but in this case they won't work, as I'll be needing to put a standard sized SIM into a micro-SIM using device.

I think that would just depend on if you're unlucky during that time and AT&T does one of their automatic checks on your account to see if the device you are using matches up with the data plan on the account. I know from my experience that almost every time I switch from my iPhone 3GS to my Nexus One (my "official" phone listed on my account is iPhone 3GS with unlimited iPhone data plan), within a few days their system detects a "non-iPhone device", and kicks me to the regular smartphone unlimited plan, thereby causing me to lose my iPhone Visual Voicemail. I have to call in an change it back to the iPhone data plan almost every time I put my SIM back in my iPhone to get my visual voicemail back.


There are plenty of videos online which show that the micro SIM is the same as the full size, just cut down. You can cut your original SIM to fit into the microSIM slot.
 
Okay, cool. Good to know I'm grandfathered in. I was surprised to see that I was so close to 2GB when I viewed my online account, but it makes sense since I use my iPhone as a Sirius XM radio when I'm driving and I'm in my car a lot. I'm still weary of AT&T because they seem like a distrustful company. Also, while I'm here, will I need to remove to feature codes from my account (ie: student discount, text message code, etc) before buying the new iPhone? I had to do this before buying the 3G iPhone. I don't know if this was necessary when buying the 3Gs iPhone.
 
There are plenty of videos online which show that the micro SIM is the same as the full size, just cut down. You can cut your original SIM to fit into the microSIM slot.

But how do you get the 4th gen iPhone out of an AT&T or Apple store without etiher upgrading your current line of service, or starting a new line? They have never allowed new release iPhones to be purchased outright AND not activated in some fashion at time of purchase. They've only allowed that toward the end of an iPhone's lifecycle, typically in late winter/early Spring.
 
I went to an ATT store today and here's what I found. I could, on June 6th, walk in and buy a 3GS with an unlimited data plan. From that day, I would have 30 days to return the phone and get the new iPhone IF it was released and available to purchase in that window. I could then keep the unlimited plan, effectively being grandfathered in. The only penalty I'd pay is a 10% restocking fee for the 3GS. So that was my experience at my local store, but as always, ymmv*.




*Please see store for details.
;)
 
Apparently AT&T made a FB post verifying that you will be grandfathered in when you sign the new contract.

Makes sense, the data plan is like any other feature, a code added to your account. Then signing a new contract, they do not force you to remove existing codes. The 3G would be the only exception, but that was very clear when it happened.

This is great to hear. I had thought you wouldn't get to keep the unlimited with a new phone. Now if AT&T doesn't check for tethering, it'll be perfect.
 
You know dam well they will be checking for tethering. They are charging more for it. Of course they will control it. :mad:
 
I am on 1.1gb average usage. However I will stay with unlimited to preserve option of higher usage. I have no idea how iPhone 4 and video chat will affect usage levels and don't want to give up the flexibility.
 
I just spoke to an ATT billing representative and they said that when you upgrade your account you will LOSE your Unlimited plan and would have to choose one of the new tiered plans. Granted, she said that these plans are still new to them so she may be wrong. She's going to look into more information about the plans and when that information becomes available, she's going to call me back.
 
I just spoke to an ATT billing representative and they said that when you upgrade your account you will LOSE your Unlimited plan and would have to choose one of the new tiered plans. Granted, she said that these plans are still new to them so she may be wrong. She's going to look into more information about the plans and when that information becomes available, she's going to call me back.

So basically, this means that any contract signed after the 7th, new or existing upgrades, will have to use the new plans?
 
AT&T has already released a statement stating otherwise. This is just a case of an uninformed CSR.

Yeah, I hope (and think) you are right. Have they released an official statement though, or is it just through Facebook still? I won't feel comfortable until they clearly come out and say it.
 
Yeah, I hope (and think) you are right. Have they released an official statement though, or is it just through Facebook still? I won't feel comfortable until they clearly come out and say it.


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100...2173014134754.html?mod=WSJ_hp_mostpop_emailed

The change, which takes effect next week for new AT&T customers, could mean lower rates for typical customers but higher costs for heavy data consumers. Current AT&T smartphone customers, however, can opt to keep their existing plans indefinitely, even if they switch phones, AT&T spokesman Mark Siegel said.
 
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